Indian Media on Speech of Chuck Hagel

[Zarvan]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=425461070873708

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

All the world knew how india was playing a proxy war against pakistan through afghanistan----only people who didnot know about it were the indians----simpletons---ain't they.

 

[Zoro]

Hello @MastanKhan any Indian with common sense would know that India is causing issues in Pakistan. It is actually dumb if India does not. Face it Pakistan has done this to India and still doing we are not on friendly term and It's in India's interest for Pakistan unrest to continue. As long as Pakistan has internal issues it has less time to concentrate on Kashmir issue.

Indian media just does it's bit portraying India as righteous and Pakistan as the Evil villain. I don't see this changing any time soon.

 

[rockstarIN]

Hi,

All the world knew how india was playing a proxy war against pakistan through afghanistan----only people who didnot know about it were the indians----simpletons---ain't they.

The point is, RAW or any other is not shown in public place like ISI or anything else. I'm sure 90% Indians even do not know about this organization.

 

[KS]

Any Pakistani who believes that it is Chuck Hagel who is going to set the agenda for the subcontinent or that his views as the Sec Def will mirror his views as a senator two years back is definitely a simpleton.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hello @MastanKhan any Indian with common sense would know that India is causing issues in Pakistan. It is actually dumb if India does not. Face it Pakistan has done this to India and still doing we are not on friendly term and It's in India's interest for Pakistan unrest to continue. As long as Pakistan has internal issues it has less time to concentrate on Kashmir issue.

Indian media just does it's bit portraying India as righteous and Pakistan as the Evil villain. I don't see this changing any time soon.

Hi,

Sir, strategically it would have been better if india had kept its distance---taken a higher ground and moved ahead away from back stabbing---but india being india----it still does these menial things out of habbit---.

As big and strong as india is---mentally it is still acts like a nascent/pubescent nation---. The u s will get out of afg one day---pushtuns will come back to power---pakistan will be favourite again---so all this game---the end result would be a failure---.

In order for india to really progress---it needs to break its shackles from its past---and just move ahead---just leave the bitterness behind.

 

[jbond197]

Any Pakistani who believes that it is Chuck Hagel who is going to set the agenda for the subcontinent or that his views as the Sec Def will mirror his views as a senator two years back is definitely a simpleton.

And these simpletons took 2 years to decode the speech.. Their frustration of having a big time failure in handling relations with Afghanistan is showing up in form of screwed comments making use of Chuck Hagel's comments of yesteryear!!

 

[MilSpec]

Hi,

Sir, strategically it would have been better if india had kept its distance---taken a higher ground and moved ahead away from back stabbing---but india being india----it still does these menial things out of habbit---.

As big and strong as india is---mentally it is still acts like a nascent/pubescent nation---. The u s will get out of afg one day---pushtuns will come back to power---pakistan will be favourite again---so all this game---the end result would be a failure---.

In order for india to really progress---it needs to break its shackles from its past---and just move ahead---just leave the bitterness behind.

Some times it is necessary to show your admin that, we can play the asymmetric game just as efficiently as you can, and still stay in the shadows... cause and effect!

 

[indushek]

Hi,

Sir, strategically it would have been better if india had kept its distance---taken a higher ground and moved ahead away from back stabbing---but india being india----it still does these menial things out of habbit---.

As big and strong as india is---mentally it is still acts like a nascent/pubescent nation---. The u s will get out of afg one day---pushtuns will come back to power---pakistan will be favourite again---so all this game---the end result would be a failure---.

In order for india to really progress---it needs to break its shackles from its past---and just move ahead---just leave the bitterness behind.

You sir seem to have made up your mind that we are involved in this nasty game, none of your leaders either military or civilian have shown solid proofs for this. Doesn't matter if u consider me dumb or a simpleton there is just no proof for your accusation.


About failure this theme of America getting out Taliban coming back and 'alls well that ends well' theme seems to be the favorite narrative of every Pakistani ?? Does this mean you want such government in Afghanistan which will be subservient to Pakistan and sing chorus of 'Jihad' with Pakistan against India??

I don't think we are involved in destabilizing Pakistan but just for the sake of argument if we accept your ''narrative" as gospel, What makes you think that we are not good at 'things we do out of habit' ?? You must know the phrase "Practise makes man perfect". One shouldn't count their chickens before they hatch let us wait and see what future holds.

Regarding moving ahead and breaking the shackles does this apply only to India, or is it that you have given up the hope that Pakistan will ever change and progress?? if so we will try our best sir.

 

[newdelhinsa]

Hi,

Sir, strategically it would have been better if india had kept its distance---taken a higher ground and moved ahead away from back stabbing---but india being india----it still does these menial things out of habbit---.

As big and strong as india is---mentally it is still acts like a nascent/pubescent nation---. The u s will get out of afg one day---pushtuns will come back to power---pakistan will be favourite again---so all this game---the end result would be a failure---.

In order for india to really progress---it needs to break its shackles from its past---and just move ahead---just leave the bitterness behind.

Pakistan should counts its own failures before predicting India's.

The game is still on and it will remain as it is.

As far as India's role in Balochistan is concern then it's too good to be true. All I can see Pakistan is been pleased by some loud mouth American for some good deals he might be trying clicking. If you think this is some thing exceptional against India and one brownie point lost by India then you have no Idea how we have been perceiving US-Pak relationship at south block New Delhi policy drafting tables.

Even if tomorrow USA will ask India to attack Pakistan with full support given then we will simply show them the middle finger because its not our style. We fight our own wars alone. The point is we are too independent to give a squat what rest of the world think or expect us to do.

 

[baajey]

Hi,

Sir, strategically it would have been better if india had kept its distance---taken a higher ground and moved ahead away from back stabbing---but india being india----it still does these menial things out of habbit---.

As big and strong as india is---mentally it is still acts like a nascent/pubescent nation---. The u s will get out of afg one day---pushtuns will come back to power---pakistan will be favourite again---so all this game---the end result would be a failure---.

In order for India to really progress---it needs to break its shackles from its past---and just move ahead---just leave the bitterness behind.

Sir, do you realize that all the aforementioned can be used for Pakistan too.
and btw, since when, PDFians were so sympathetic about a US gov personnel's comments when we all (includes the pakistanis as well) conveniently sidelined all the other accusations against Pakistan. now one comment which justifies Pakistani side of story, and PDF is exploding with ....we told u so ???
anyway not to undermine the intellect of ppl here, Indians and the rest kinda know that India is behind "some" problems , if not all, in Pakistan. i hope mr. hagels's statements will not be used as a reference when a neighborhood cat is sodomized by an unknown dog.

 

[junaid1]

And these simpletons took 2 years to decode the speech.. Their frustration of having a big time failure in handling relations with Afghanistan is showing up in form of screwed comments making use of Chuck Hagel's comments of yesteryear!!

Yes mate .india has failed to achive its gools in afganistan .

To use afg against pakistan.
To stop chinse presense in gwadar.
Failed to stop iran and pak gas project .
To Destablizing balouchistan.

Thats why showing frustration in media .

 

[SEAL]

Hello @MastanKhan any Indian with common sense would know that India is causing issues in Pakistan. It is actually dumb if India does not. Face it Pakistan has done this to India and still doing we are not on friendly term and It's in India's interest for Pakistan unrest to continue. As long as Pakistan has internal issues it has less time to concentrate on Kashmir issue.

Indian media just does it's bit portraying India as righteous and Pakistan as the Evil villain. I don't see this changing any time soon.

There is no gain in this dirty war only civilians are suffering you can cause some damage but in the end India will be the ultimate looser in A'stan, even if your intentions are good to work there nobody will trust you. The American gave you free hand for a while and now end game is approaching and Indian govt got clear message from US that there is no role of India in A'stan pack your bags. India is badly exposed at terrorist state by US Sec Def, sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan i am afraid it will encourage the Non-state actors to strike again.

 

[nair]

Yes mate .india has failed to achive its gools in afganistan .

To use afg against pakistan.
To stop chinse presense in gwadar.
Failed to stop iran and pak gas project .
To Destablizing balouchistan.

Thats why showing frustration in media .

If you believe that india failed to achieve its goal... then you should be happy..... and stop accusing india for every problem in pakistan........ actually you are not vouching what Hangel said.....

 

[livingdead]

There is no gain in this dirty war only civilians are suffering you can cause some damage but in the end India will be the ultimate looser in A'stan, even if your intentions are good to work there nobody will trust you. The American gave you free hand for a while and now end game is approaching and Indian govt got clear message from US that there is no role of India in A'stan pack your bags. India is badly exposed at terrorist state by US Sec Def, sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan i am afraid it will encourage the Non-state actors to strike again.

welcome to real politics, nobody is saint here. India will continue to destabilize pakistan and vice versa, until both side agree to talk meaningfully.
The alternative is just to talk when rest of the world does not give a fu*k... or start war (both are stupid choice)