Indian IT worker who groped Princess Fiona at a Shrek-themed amusement park

[SrNair]

India's cultural export?

Well.
Your IQ is not enough to measure the basics of Indian culture.
So cut that BS.

 

[New World]

what do you think?

people are weird. few months back i heard the news that somewhere in USA, women have chosed a day in the week in which all the women of surrounding should walk naked on the streets just to show that they are not muslims..

so, can't say anything..

Is it acceptable anywhere in the world? Use your top 3 inches.

whenever i think that indian can talk honestly and humbly my top 3 inches generates an error warned me that i'm doing blasphemy by thinking this...

NOTE: exceptions are given everywhere..

 

[nForce]

You made that out by looking at a news that some women paraded naked ? Going by that logic, all Muslims must be terrorists, considering there are so many Islamic terrorist organizations, all over the World.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

No one here is disrespecting Indians. The guy himself disrespected Indians when he said that his behavior would have been acceptable in India.

Anyway, on a serious note, you guys should do something fast. Don't know where the problem is for sure, but all the hints point towards your Bollywood and TV channels.

Never mind.

 

[deckingraj]

Look, you guys need to learn to debate. If this was an article with a Pakistani in it, the entire Indian community would be sending SMS messages to each other to log on here and write hateful propaganda. At times, without a need. The point can be made nicely.

But in this case, I went through the entire thread, I didn't see anyone saying the "entire India is rapits" like you guys conveniently state things about Pakistan. The point is, this is a SOCIAL problem in India. Instead of getting upset, take a deep breathe and share with us things that may be happening to counter balance such sexual intensity in and outside of India, within the community, what may be the reasons, etc. If you accept it as an issue and write something about it, people will then focus on your content than India or anything else. That's what people like, to discuss things and learn from each others experience. The rapists exist in Pakistan, China and the US too. So instead of taking offense tell us about why, when, how and what could or should be done to reduce this in the future.....

You are from India, we aren't. So we are looking at you and other Indian members to provide input as a subject matter expert / citizen of India. You'll details will have a lot more important stuff for us to read than other members running their imagination and mouths!!

Your very first bold line is exactly opposite to what you are preaching...when you paint everyone with same brush then in my mind this is not exactly a right way to debate either....

Your second bold line is not true either....because there are so many posts in this very thread which gives an impression that rape and sexual assault is something that comes natural to Indians...In fact look at the third bold line...you say this is a social problem in India...now may i humbly ask give me one country in past/present and future where you think rape and sexual assault is not a social problem?? Not only this is a social problem everywhere however to make matters worst there are laws out there which seems are only put in to protect the perpetrators...I believe it has changed now however in Pakistan there was/is need of 4 witness to prove rapes, right??

Anyways my larger point is that if anyone believes that rape is a bigger problem in India than any other country then that person needs to visit a mental asylum....No other country can match the amount of coverage that rapes get in India...This may give whatever impression however something which is very good and we want it that way....because one Nirbhaya resulted in so many changes in our justice system for good....This brought in all the reforms that idiots were debating for so long but not implementing...

Rape In India: Why It Seems Worse | TIME.com

As far reducing the incidents then I am sorry nothing is gonna help but improving the conviction rate...So far India is doing a decent job as compared to some other developed countries...however even after doing good we are registering a conviction rate of paltry 24%....now imagine what a big deal is in countries like ours to report rape(being a social stigma) and then a mere 24% conviction rate...this is pathetic..and that's where the solution is....

 

[jamahir]

Why do you need internet for ? You can go write in the wall. Chances of people paying any hid to you are greater in the later actually.

that is no answer to my point.

nevertheless, i use every medium to preach, collaborate and work... pdf is my third forum... the first two were places where the ideology was agreed ( jamahiriya ) so there was no problem in the work... but on pdf, i find it frustrating to keep repeating the same corrections, realities and truths thousands of times.

now i cannot be a socialist and not speak and work offline locally, is it not?? as a example, i told you about my plan to start a employee union in the last company i was employed in... it would have been the first employee union in the indian it/services industry... most of those two-college-degreed "ma ka laadlas" flooding out of indian middle-class homes won't even talk back to their illogical parents let alone talk of injustice and inequality in their it/services company and attempt to set up a employee union.

And no,you are no socialist. I know what it is, you are anything but that. With all due respect, at best, you are any opportunist without an opportunity.

nevertheless, how does that remove the sensibility in my questions and points??

Come again ? Any socialist society ? Did what ?

any socialist society, bringing welfare to its citizens and not pushing them to suicide because of such a unnecessary thing as money.

for example, little communist cuba is higher than "world's largest democracy" india on the "human development index" ranking[1] which is a component within the human development report produced by the uno-undp every year... cuba is at 44 and india at 135... we must remember that cuba achieves this despite no longer having the financial and logistical assistance of the ussr... we must also remember that uno is biased in favor of the western capitalist bloc but still its agency ranks cuba high, reluctantly though.

I agree with this in principle. However it is quite minute amounts compared to the wastage by the PDS systems India implemented under the guise of socialism.

to your mention of "pds system implemented under guise of socialism" - i repeat, as i have repeated dozens of times, the indian state system is not socialist but there were two or three borrowings from ussr and from progressive aspects of the western capitalist bloc but these were implemented without acting against the indian traditional social and economic system therefore the good things were rendered inefficient... and then i must ask you, do you not want a welfare state but want a ruthless and callous system capitalist system where human misery and difficulties must not be allowed to stop the march of a chaotic capitalist and reactionary daily life and the idea of a religio-nationalist war-mongering "super power"??

to your point about the wastage of milk and curds in temples being minute - one source[2] speaks of 600,000+ temples but i would say there would be more than two million, because in many cities and towns, parks and roadside trees can be attached with a idol which over time becomes a small but well-visited open-air temple, and then there is the phenomenon in cities and towns of building a temple on a legally disputed property or empty plot so that any legal litigant or owner of that land, whether government, whether private individual/group, will run the risk of starting a riot if the illegal temple is demolished or removed.

now if we calculate the milk and curds for two million temples but balance it by saying that not every roadside and park temple employs milk and curds wash every morning so it would be one million relevant temples, and say on average we need two liters of milk and curds each to wash a idol every morning, we would be using ( 2 + 2 ) x 1 million = 4 million liters of milk and curds combined being wasted on idols every morning !!

And how is that going for Venezuela now? Followed the elections there? Like the outcome?

why should i care for elections which are a artifact of the british "representative democracy" system, a anti-democracy system?? how is it going for india since bjp formed government last year??

despite the "color revolution" brought by cia to venezuela, president maduro has said that he will protect the bolivarian revolution at any cost.

the green book says[3]...

Parliaments are the backbone of that conventional democracy prevailing in the world today. Parliament is a misrepresentation of the people, and parliamentary systems are a false solution to the problem of democracy. A parliament is originally founded to represent the people, but this in itself is undemocratic as democracy means the authority of the people and not an authority acting on their behalf. The mere existence of a parliament means the absence of the people. True democracy exists only through the direct participation of the people, and not through the activity of their representatives. Parliaments have been a legal barrier between the people and the exercise of authority, excluding the masses from meaningful politics and monopolizing sovereignty in their place. People are left with only a facade of democracy, manifested in long queues to cast their election ballots.

So thats 15,000 farmer suicides per year. Assuming all of these were for agriculture related reasons (a bad assumption but lets go with it for sake of argument)....and let us say there are 100 million farmers (use a low base to get the worst possible scenario). Thats about 15 deaths per 100,000 compared to overall national suicide rate of about 20 - 25. If we use a larger base as the population (of farmers/cultivators) this number halves to less than 10...and some bases even less than 5. You can read up the studies yourself. Farmers' suicides in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For comparison the suicide rate of South Korea is almost 30.

It is indeed a problem for India, but no more severe than worldwide suicide problems and patterns. Just quoting a total suicide number and not looking at the base and rate and comparison to the averages elsewhere is quite a desperate tactic.

you made the effort in calculating but didn't consider that farmers are not the only demographic that suicides in india... india was declared "suicide capital of the world" by uno-who in 2014 and this below article from september 2014 gives some numbers[4]...

New Delhi: Every 40 seconds, a suicide is committed somewhere in the world; one of every three suicides takes place in India. This is the finding of a decade-long study by the World Health Organisation or WHO.

The report released today says that an Indian commits suicide every two minutes. In 2012, WHO believes that 2.5 lakh people killed themselves in India. The government's estimates are significantly lower.

so, if there were 200,000 indian farmer suicides between 1997 and 2010[5], a much higher number ( 250,000 ) of the total indian population suicided just in the single year of 2012 !!

now redo your calculation.

and your source[6] has this...

International comparison

Farmers suicide is a global phenomenon. Outside India, studies in Sri Lanka, USA, Canada, England and Australia have identified farming as a high stress profession that is associated with a higher suicide rate than the general population. This is particularly true among small scale farmers and after periods of economic distress

i don't see any need for someone to justify india's farmer suicides using "high stress profession" as excuse for farmer suicides in the other countries listed... i don't see what raising crops has got to do with killing oneself... i have asked this many times before, were there farmer suicides in the socialist people's libyan jamahiriya??

besides, even a single suicide cannot be justified, unless three 40-foot anaconda snakes have surrounded someone's house and there's no way of escape... otherwise the reason then for suicide would be wrongness in the political, economic and economic system.

why not simply learn from this[7]...

8. The members of Jamahiriyan society hold sacred the life of a human being and protect it. The goal of Jamahiriyan society is to abolish capital punishment. In view of this, the death penalty should on
only be ruled against and individual whose very existence constitutes a danger or is deleterious to society.

The condemned man may request a mitigation of his sentence or he may, in compensation for his life, offer a personal tribute. The court may commute the sentence if this decision is neither prejudicial to society nor conflicting with human values.

The members of Jamahiriyan society condemn the enforcement of capital punishment through loathsome methods, such as the electric chair, toxic gases or injections.

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[1] 2014 Human Development Report (HDI) | UNDP

[2] How Many Numbers of Temple in India

[3] http://openanthropology.org/libya/gaddafi-green-book.pdf

[4] India is Suicide Capital: World Health Organisation (WHO)

[5] Peepli Live is not about farmers - NDTV Movies

[6] Farmers' suicides in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[7] http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/3dda540f4.pdf

 

[CorporateAffairs]

yeah, respect to female goddesses in non-living idol form but when the females are living humans, feed their culturally-aborted foetuses to the ever-present dogs[1] and foeticide and infanticide the females to the extent that countless millions never get beyond one year of age[2]...

Sorry, but i dont talk with traitors and profiles with fake flags.
Thx.

 

[war&peace]

And he wants us to believe that he did not know about how to greet woman.....what a pervert and a shameless brazen act

 

[New World]

You made that out by looking at a news that some women paraded naked ? Going by that logic, all Muslims must be terrorists, considering there are so many Islamic terrorist organizations, all over the World.

what i was trying to say people are weird.. can't judge anything that's why tagged you and your countrymen to know if there is something weird thing somewhere in india or not..

 

[asena_great]

The father of two then leaned in to try and force a kiss on her and as she moved away he bit and kissed her neck.
Srinivas Boreddy, 36, pictured left and right, groped a woman at Shrek's Adventure at County Hall, and said it was an 'acceptable' greeting in India

 

[nForce]

what i was trying to say people are weird.. can't judge anything that's why tagged you and your countrymen to know if there is something weird thing somewhere in india or not..

The answer lies in your question itself. Some people can be weird, as you said about those American ladies. Can an entire nation be that weird ? I cannot break down further.

 

[jamahir]

Sorry, but i dont talk with traitors and profiles with fake flags.
Thx.

it was wrong of me in immediately categorizing you into the sanghi bracket in my very first post to you on this thread but what i said in the rest of that post is the reality.

i ask you to kindly ignore the part where i mention you as "sanghi' and respond to the rest of my post.

what i meant to say to @Windjammer was that the IT guy needed punishment for claiming that this was how Indians greeted and met women

actually he said the opposite to the police... below is from op...

Boreddy told police he did not think his behaviour was inappropriate in England and when asked if it would have been acceptable in India agreed that it wasn't.

so the some part of the op is incorrectly written.

and from the below it seems he got carried away...

Probation officer Patrick Acres said Boreddy had been observing others in this country and thought a hug and kiss on the cheek was how English people seemed to greet each other.

but shameful that his wife and children were somewhere in the same amusement park yet he did not think that he should present himself as dignified husband and a father and not indulge so extremely in a situation where he does not understand the cultural context.

Boreddy told police he did not think his behaviour was inappropriate in England and when asked if it would have been acceptable in India agreed that it wasn't.

 

[Nilgiri]

to your mention of "pds system implemented under guise of socialism" - i repeat, as i have repeated dozens of times, the indian state system is not socialist but there were two or three borrowings from ussr and from progressive aspects of the western capitalist bloc but these were implemented without acting against the indian traditional social and economic system therefore the good things were rendered inefficient... and then i must ask you, do you not want a welfare state but want a ruthless and callous system capitalist system where human misery and difficulties must not be allowed to stop the march of a chaotic capitalist and reactionary daily life and the idea of a religio-nationalist war-mongering "super power"??

Well the main problem is there was no mass literacy campaign. The buck ends there really. The rest is just beating a dead horse. I wouldn't have minded if we went full socialist IF we had a mass literacy campaign, since when the socialism eventually failed (like elsewhere) at least we would have had that one positive regarding education. Basically we implemented the worst parts of everything without any of the good parts.

why should i care for elections which are a artifact of the british "representative democracy" system, a anti-democracy system?? how is it going for india since bjp formed government last year??

despite the "color revolution" brought by cia to venezuela, president maduro has said that he will protect the bolivarian revolution at any cost.

the green book says[3]...

Well the green book people have been voted out in a real thrashing. Maduro is going to be a lame duck president for the rest of the term till he gets kicked out too.

you made the effort in calculating but didn't consider that farmers are not the only demographic that suicides in india... india was declared "suicide capital of the world" by uno-who in 2014 and this below article from september 2014 gives some numbers[4]...
so, if there were 200,000 indian farmer suicides between 1997 and 2010[5], a much higher number ( 250,000 ) of the total indian population suicided just in the single year of 2012 !!

now redo your calculation.

Suicide capital of the world?

Google

Also:

List of countries by suicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is India at the top? Simple question.

Where is much wealthier/socially progressive South Korea? Sri Lanka? Lots of countries are in the range of India's suicide rate. Japan, Hungary, Russia to name a few.

i don't see what raising crops has got to do with killing oneself

Yeah you've had a cushy life. What would you know about farming anywhere? Not everyone can afford to be as lazy and elitist as you....there are a myriad of problems in farming worldwide. The reasons for their suicides and high stress are easily found if you take the time to talk to them.

i have asked this many times before, were there farmer suicides in the socialist people's libyan jamahiriya??

Libya: 2,390 km² dedicated to irrigated agriculture, 15,500 km² to rain fed farming. Output is about 3% of GDP. Employment? Not known (probably really tiny)

List of countries by GDP sector composition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Employment in agriculture (% of total employment) | Data | Table

and I'm guessing a handful of farmers with generous support from oil funds....and I would assume the Libyan crankpot dictator didn't believe in reporting such suicides when they did happen anyways (or if they decided to protest politically or in any disruptive fashion).

Libya is like 6 million people with huge oil reserves. You seriously think this can be compared to a country who's biggest cities have 4 times or more that population?

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

wtf..
it is acceptable in India?
@ranjeet @Nilgiri @jamahir @hinduguy @Kashmiri Pandit

Not acceptable in my Society ( Kashmiri Society )
Can't comment about the Modern Societies of India ( Those who love party culture , more open to such stuff etc )

 

[fallstuff]

He is a serial groper, he probably got away many times before.