Indian investments in Iran and what it means for us?

[Super Falcon]

With chinese influence in int market no ship will stand in chabgar but pak and iran giving gas to pak china will be included in this gas too in future why they go invest for things which they are getting at door step

 

[itachiii]

India however is a enemy for Pakistan and Pakistan must act to hurt any ill intentions of our enemy

Its not all about you

All the best...

 

[Agent Smith]

There is lot of difference cant u see left of chabhar is nothing and chabhar is only for afghanistan afghanis neither exports just imports and most of population is poor compare to pak no items they buy more gwadar is even close to middle east most of gulf countries prefer gwadar port than irani chabgar who they have prob and dont be too happy iran and afghan are muslim any time they throw u out and uf not israel will pressurize u to make iran ecnonical strong so one way or other u are looser just afghanistan u count gwadar connects entire world

the thing is, chahbahar port is meant for Afghanistan only, and not for other middle eastern countries, the task at our hand is to deny you the strategic depth inside Afghanistan. besides, we don't meddle in the affairs of Israel and Iran, it is for them to sort out. so you are grossly mistaken in your conclusion.

 

[Styx]

It's not just India, China, Russia and the west/US will all be investing in Iran. Good times ahead for the persians

 

[WAJsal]

We know the following:

> India is building the Chabahar port right across the border from Pakistan and our port.

> After sanctions were lifted Iran gave India more rights to the port, calling it strategic in nature.

> India will be investing huge amounts in Iran into everything ranging from industry, factories to other things.

> India will be building railway and frieght corridors.

> India will be making roads in the eastern regions of Iran, near our border.

> Many other details are unknown.

Now many Pakistani members seem unworried. Please tell my why I should not worry?

It's just investment, they won't be making a naval base, nothing much to worry about. Plus Chabahar can no sense in the world compete with Gawadar once both ports are completed. Nothing to worry about.

 

[Bang Galore]

c) We can offer same trade deal to Iran like we did to Afghanistan. Like Afghans are exporting their goods to INDIA at Wahgah border & they return AF Laden with Pakistani Goods

e) According to "Times of India"...India-Russia connectivity via Iran is 30% Lesser and 40% cheaper then current route, ...means what??....It means Pakistan still holds the Trump Card....After accumulating all the costs of 2 Ports(Mumbai & Chahbahar), and taking all the hassle of traveling with (high Insurance cost) still they wont beat Original SILK ROUTE

Everyone understands that the Pakistani route will be cheaper. The point though is that Pakistan must allow it. The route is cheaper only if it is an option. The fact that Pakistan will not have a veto will force Pakistan to reconsider its position on allowing India trade access. This is a win-win for India no matter how it plays out.

The Iranians have a clear economic imperative. India remains a massive market for oil & gas and it is not a market that can easily be compensated for by any other, certainly not Pakistan. It is not just Iran that wants preferential access to the Indian market, Qatar, KSA are equally interested. The Iranians would like to tie down India into closer cooperation on matters of mutual interest because that can have a bearing on reinforcing their hold on their oil market. KSA uses access to its labour market as a similar incentive.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

If we were similarly inclined we would have accepted the saudis offer and bombed the houthis to shit

The Saudis and americans would still be well inclined to ask Pakistan to help them hurt and counter iran

If only self interest is involved and the Saudi offer good enough should we simply accept? ?

Or understand that we border iran and have to live with you



Are we asking any different from you, india is our mortal enemy, we have countered them in Afghanistan and you offer them access to a area bordering balochistan, expecting Pakistan not to act


And to remind you unlike iran Pakistan dosent have the oil to keep our heads above when sanctioned but still we have an arsenal of 200 nuclear warheads, our iwn jet fighter and plans for subs and second strike we didnt let the west snip our balls off like you did

Dude once and for all let me clear u and all your moaners about Indo Iran relationship.

First of all your hue and cry to keep India to the local issues are largely or completely failed . India is a global power and aspirant to become a world leader . U and China want to stop it but terribly failed . It's not gonna happen

Secondly Iran : I laught at some pakistanis here always big mouth about how Iran is non nuclear and Pakistan is a nuclear power with 200 warheads . Ask for yourself .Will you ever dare to use nuclear against Iran ? The next minutes Russians missiles will be raining over your head . Iran is not a local player they have wide range of issues which involves Iran with global powers but that's not the case for you !!! You are either controlled by US or China so having good relationship with neither of these two will nullify the need to care about Pakistan .

So stop keep hopping on nuclear weapons you have to threaten Iran .There are secret deals with will invite India, Russia to nuke Pakistan in case you nuke Iran .Nuke is not a child play no one will dare to use it as death is assured for the user's .

 

[Bang Galore]

IPlus Chabahar can no sense in the world compete with Gawadar once both ports are completed. Nothing to worry about.

Irrelevant to India. Gwadar is of no use to us. Chabahar is. For Pakistan, the only downside is loss of veto over Indian trade to Afghanistan & beyond.

 

[itachiii]

There is a limit to brotherhood. We considered Iran and did not send military to help Saudi. But iran is not taking us into consideration.

you know who are the dumbest lot in south asia ?? it is pakistan... you could have just given us a transit route and collected transit fee for it... lest you pushed us in to investing in Iran and there by losing your potential money..

 

[WAJsal]

Irrelevant to India. Gwadar is of no use to us. Chabahar is. For Pakistan, the only downside is loss of veto over Indian trade to Afghanistan & beyond.

Referring to concerns showed by OP. Plus It's not like India's trade with Afghanistan is a lot that it will in some way affect us. Gwadar is relevant to many countries, many have showed interest in investing in it. Long way to go.
Point is India is not making a naval base of something, nothing to worry about-referring to the OP.

 

[B+ Dracula]

Everyone understands that the Pakistani route will be cheaper. The point though is that Pakistan must allow it. The route is cheaper only if it is an option. The fact that Pakistan will not have a veto will force Pakistan to reconsider its position on allowing India trade access. This is a win-win for India no matter how it plays out.

Personally Iam in favour of India Pakistan Trade Ties....Last night i was watching a Tv-Programme, Insisting on the fact... Sind is enjoying Karachi Port, Balouchistan is enjoying Iran, KPK is enjoying Afghanistan trade route....then why 60% of Pakistani Punjab is not enjoying Trade ties with India....its a natural trade border b/t 2 countries...he also explains a fact....many close Border cities of India have imminent Karachi Port to go outside then Mumbai
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I've very strong Conviction and you as a sane Poster will accede me on this....India as a Bigger Country must be Generous towards its smaller neighbours, Instead of matching Ego Score breakeven in every Incident

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

With most due respect you cannot compare chabhar with gwadar because gwadar is geo politically very important to everyone chabhar with its own right too but what gwadar offers i dont think so chabar do

Gwadar connects china directly and with more time will be saved with chabar it is iran who only benefit more not even india benefit because it dont have any road links to india

India is doing it only in jelosy for gwadar

Gwadar port by road with most ease connects to china afghanistn russia etc with chabar more time needs to sends goods to destination when china afghanis have pirt which can save money and time i dont think it will be impact on us

What a crazy thoughts you have Gwadar port is more geo political just because it get connected with China ? What you think world ends and starts with Pakistan and China ? Chahabahar port will open up new trade route to the central asian countries which are mineral rich . And India will have new business to do and so does all central asian countries too . That's a lot of trade gonna take place through Iran . You keep braging yourself but truth is very different and difficult to digest . May be 40 billion is a huge money for your economy but by the same time other countries will get more than you can imagine so the status quo won't change at all. Chinese will drain you to pulp for the money you borrowed . There will he times when you don't want to start a war with India unnecessarily but you will do it due to the pressure from China lol

 

[Yousafzai_M]

Because whether you worry or not this is something that is going to happen. India is a rising economical power and their investments&cooperation in Iran are more than welcome as Iran is also going to work to become an economical power.

If you think Iran will not allow economical cooperation with India because some neighbour does not like it then you're deluding yourself.

Chahbahar is one strategic port, one which I feel even China will at some point want to get involved in. So stop your moaning and accept reality. Pakistan should just concentrate on developing its economy. A rising Iranian economy does not have to be bad news for Pakistan, matter of fact it can be a good thing. If you keep a friendly attitude with Iran, which most Pakistanis do, then you will have a large and potential economical power to trade & cooperate with. And don't forget you need Iranian energy.

Are you sure you are Iranian? a genuine question.

To answer your post though, you need to get off your high horse, for now at least. If you think Israeli lobby together with the (pro-India) Arab countries would let you have a smooth walk, you are delusional.

P.S. I have immense respect for Iran and I would choose Iran over filthy Arab dictatorships any day.

 

[Optimos Prime IA]

Personally Iam in favour of India Pakistan Trade Ties....Last night i was watching a Tv-Programme, Insisting on the fact... Sind is enjoying Karachi Port, Balouchistan is enjoying Iran, KPK is enjoying Afghanistan trade route....then why 60% of Pakistani Punjab is not enjoying Trade ties with India....its a natural trade border b/t 2 countries...he also explains a fact....many close Border cities of India have imminent Karachi Port to go outside then Mumbai
.
I've very strong Conviction and you as a sane Poster will accede me on this....India as a Bigger Country must be Generous towards its smaller neighbours, Instead of matching Ego Score breakeven in every Incident

After these long years you still have a doubt why India is not trading with Pakistan ? Your civilian government has the same view of yours for many decades now but see what happened even at recent UFA submit ? And what happening at our borders . Unnecessary cease fire violation by PA stop only when NSA Doval strong statement and deadline before massive retaliation from I A . You may say or have different story to tell as you be live . But for prosperous Pakistan civilian government should take control over PA

 

[nForce]

India is in unique position with good relations with both Saudi Arabia and Iran.