Indian double standard on Kashmir issue. From Kashmir to Junagarh

[Khan_21]

Be assured that when India tries it, there won't be any failed attempts.

Your own defence military analysts blames you for being defensive against Pakistan . If anything Pakistan has always been on the offence in our 69 year bitter relations . If India could kashmir or Gilgit Baltistan , It would have tried long time ago . The only thing India can do is say she wants Kashmir and Gilgit baltistan Back . India knows the consequences . Given that our 4 wars have been fruitless to get your side of Kashmir back but atleast one of us is being aggressive and not afraid to put words into actions.

Kapil dev in one of the programmes between India-Pak matches describes best the psyche of the two nations . He called Pakistan ruthless and aggressive behaviour which has enabled them to produce legendary fast bowlers while the Indian psyche is the opposite .

69 year old history has thought us that India despite being the bigger country has always punched below its weight when it comes to dealing with its arch nemesis .

 

[wiseone2]

Your own defence military analysts blames you for being defensive against Pakistan . If anything Pakistan has always been on the offence in our 69 year bitter relations . If India could kashmir or Gilgit Baltistan , It would have tried long time ago . The only thing India can do is say she wants Kashmir and Gilgit baltistan Back . India knows the consequences . Given that our 4 wars have been fruitless to get your side of Kashmir back but atleast one of us is being aggressive and not afraid to put words into actions.

Kapil dev in one of the programmes between India-Pak matches describes best the psyche of the two nations . He called Pakistan ruthless and aggressive behaviour which has enabled them to produce legendary fast bowlers while the Indian psyche is the opposite .

69 year old history has thought us that India despite being the bigger country has always punched below its weight when it comes to dealing with its arch nemesis .

1965 was the last time Pakistan tried to get Kashmir. 1971 was over Bangladesh. Kargil was a skirmish in comparison.
Even if Pakistan did not have nukes it would be futile for India to occupy territory with millions of hostile subjects.

 

[Khan_21]

1965 was the last time Pakistan tried to get Kashmir. 1971 was over Bangladesh. Kargil was a skirmish in comparison.
Even if Pakistan did not have nukes it would be futile for India to occupy territory with millions of hostile subjects.

48 , 65 and 99 . Kargil was a full blown war . You accuse us of funding the proxy war in kashmir . We go after whatever we want . We don't sit around on our behind and just shout on times now arnab goswami debates . i have heard Indian analysts saying we will get back our side of Kashmir since years now and I have yet to see what India can do about it .

Accept it India always has punched below its weight . Zee TV , ABP news and times now is filled with angry Indian analysts on how incompetent they are to deal with Pakistan .

 

[dadeechi]

Your own defence military analysts blames you for being defensive against Pakistan . If anything Pakistan has always been on the offence in our 69 year bitter relations . If India could kashmir or Gilgit Baltistan , It would have tried long time ago . The only thing India can do is say she wants Kashmir and Gilgit baltistan Back . India knows the consequences . Given that our 4 wars have been fruitless to get your side of Kashmir back but atleast one of us is being aggressive and not afraid to put words into actions.

Kapil dev in one of the programmes between India-Pak matches describes best the psyche of the two nations . He called Pakistan ruthless and aggressive behaviour which has enabled them to produce legendary fast bowlers while the Indian psyche is the opposite .

69 year old history has thought us that India despite being the bigger country has always punched below its weight when it comes to dealing with its arch nemesis .

I agree with Kapil and you on the above but this agreement is not contradictory to what I said earlier.

 

[wiseone2]

48 , 65 and 99 . Kargil was a full blown war . You accuse us of funding the proxy war in kashmir . We go after whatever we want . We don't sit around on our behind and just shout on times now arnab goswami debates . i have heard Indian analysts saying we will get back our side of Kashmir since years now and I have yet to see what India can do about it .

Accept it India always has punched below its weight . Zee TV , ABP news and times now is filled with angry Indian analysts on how incompetent they are to deal with Pakistan .

kargil - full blown ?? full blown is massive attack across international border. with nukes that is about as full blown as it is going to get

proxy wars might continue. i do not see active support for proxies in J&K. pakistan seems more interested in supporting the taliban than backing kashmiris.

 

[Khan_21]

kargil - full blown ?? full blown is massive attack across international border. with nukes that is about as full blown as it is going to get

proxy wars might continue. i do not see active support for proxies in J&K. pakistan seems more interested in supporting the taliban than backing kashmiris.

You would be naive to think that there wont be any future war . Lets hope there isn't but I would be fooling around if i say there won't be any war in future . Kargil had alot of casualties on both sides of the border numbering in hundreds and thousands . Clinton got the news that Pakistan is about to strike India with nuclear bomb and it intervened . It was the highest fought war by Altitude in history .

We came really close in 2001 and 2008 to a 5th war . No active support from J & K ? Your media says otherwise

 

[ashdoc]

junagarh became part of india because no hindu should stay in a officially muslim country like pakistan . but india is a secular country and muslims can stay in it . india is not officially hindu unlike pakistan which is officially muslim . that is the difference .

 

[wiseone2]

You would be naive to think that there wont be any future war . Lets hope there isn't but I would be fooling around if i say there won't be any war in future . Kargil had alot of casualties on both sides of the border numbering in hundreds and thousands . Clinton got the news that Pakistan is about to strike India with nuclear bomb and it intervened . It was the highest fought war by Altitude in history .

We came really close in 2001 and 2008 to a 5th war . No active support from J & K ? Your media says otherwise

Pakistan does not have the economic strength to wage a full scale conventional war. Pakistan options are simple - proxy wars or nuke war

I would not believe everything Indian media says. Your ability to succeed in a proxy war against India is slim. ISI tried it for a decade 1990-2000. You have better odds against Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.

 

[ashdoc]

non muslims should not stay in pakistan because it is country only for muslims . so hindu majority junagarh and hyderabad rightfully belong to india . but kashmir can stay in india because india is not hindu . it is secular . muslims are welcome to stay in india .

 

[Khan_21]

Pakistan does not have the economic strength to wage a full scale conventional war. Pakistan options are simple - proxy wars or nuke war

I would not believe everything Indian media says. Your ability to succeed in a proxy war against India is slim. ISI tried it for a decade 1990-2000. You have better odds against Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.

Economic wise we are in the best shape we have been . We have had wars with you when we were far worse off . In 48 we were a baby and still went to war. Economically thing's weren't that good in 71 or 99 but it happened didn't it ? . What makes you think a 10 times stronger Pakistan of 2016 cannot ? .

Yes we tried it for a decade and brought you on your knees because kashmir insurgency in 90's was worse and India was going bankrupt . What makes you think you are not trying hard in balochistan or Karachi ? Same can be said for India that it cannot succeed .

India -pak rivalry is cancer to both. Its a vicious cycle of never ending huge defence budgets and bleeding each other. Can only imagine where both would have been if not for such bitterness.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Take Junagarh now who is stopping you

Why would we do that, the people of Junagarh are happy to be with India

 

[dray]

Again no, you need to read the Khan of Kalat decision and Afghan role. But nice try. Again one more Hyderabad occupation and massacre in Hyderabad.

In fact you need to read about it from non-Pakistani sources.

 

[wiseone2]

Economic wise we are in the best shape we have been . We have had wars with you when we were far worse off . In 48 we were a baby and still went to war. Economically thing's weren't that good in 71 or 99 but it happened didn't it ? . What makes you think a 10 times stronger Pakistan of 2016 cannot ? .

Yes we tried it for a decade and brought you on your knees because kashmir insurgency in 90's was worse and India was going bankrupt . What makes you think you are not trying hard in balochistan or Karachi ? Same can be said for India that it cannot succeed .

India -pak rivalry is cancer to both. Its a vicious cycle of never ending huge defence budgets and bleeding each other. Can only imagine where both would have been if not for such bitterness.

In 1990 Pakistan started the jihad in Kashmir. It did not stop the economic boom of the 1990s. India's economic trajectory is influenced by internal factor. India's defense spending is 2% of GDP

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

India is like that kid , who steals a toy from you when you are young
Refuses to give back

He keeps yelling this toy is mine , I like it so I will take it


Kashmir is not Toy or PROPERTY , it is land belonging to the people of that region , and they will decide who they want to side with as a extra province

• Scotland did a referendum , peacefully done
  
• Qubeec did a referendum in Canada , peacefully done
• UK exited european union by referrendum

But ye , indian kid , keeps yelling , this Kashmir is my Toy


Reality :

Sikh want seperation from India own state
Kashmir want to seperate from India want connection with Pakistan
Dalit people want own state for their welfare
Assam movement wants own state beside bangladesh

 

[dadeechi]

India is like that kid , who steals a toy from you when you are young
Refuses to give back

He keeps yelling this toy is mine , I like it so I will take it


Kashmir is not Toy or PROPERTY , it is land belonging to the people of that region , and they will decide who they want to side with as a extra province

• Scotland did a referendum , peacefully done
  
• Qubeec did a referendum in Canada , peacefully done
• UK exited european union by referrendum

But ye , indian kid , keeps yelling , this Kashmir is my Toy


Reality :

Sikh want seperation from India own state
Kashmir want to seperate from India want connection with Pakistan
Dalit people want own state for their welfare
Assam movement wants own state beside bangladesh

Pakistan should be happy and thank British for giving them Pakistan on a platter. Pakistan would not have been a reality in a truly democratic system and Pakistanis should be the last to talk about democracy.