Indian Army losing sniper edge over Pakistan on LoC

[hussain0216]

How does this work exactly??

Indian soldiers get killed by freedom fighters and then indians trawl history to prove that its ok?

So in in 1956 x amount of Pakistani died in a jeep crash near the LOC and thus its ok indian soldiers have been killed by Pakistani snipers?

 

[Windjammer]

I have not even touched FATA.

Nothing compared to Punjab and Gujarat kid,

How does this work exactly??

Indian soldiers get killed by freedom fighters and then indians trawl history to prove that its ok?

So in in 1956 x amount of Pakistani died in a jeep crash near the LOC and thus its ok indian soldiers have been killed by Pakistani snipers?

That's Indian mentality, they will kill a Bangladeshi cow smuggler at the drop of a hat but the Chinese come and sit on their face whenever they like but Bhartis just observe the Jupiter.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Pakistani men..hahaha..those 93000 in 71 who raised their white undies when Indian Army reached Dhaka!


Hahaha..When your facts get challenged i like how you change the topic every time.

even this fake laugh dont take your frustration away. 71 was not a war directly .. 1.30 billion cant attack who have the 3rd biggest army .. we are targeting the heads of indian army like a coconuts.. keep counting.

 

[Armoured Division]

Nothing compared to Punjab and Gujarat kid

Nothing compared to Balochistan, girl.

 

[Areesh]

Hahaha..When your facts get challenged i like how you change the topic every time.

And where my facts are getting challenged? Do inform me and other bharatis since even they don't know.

Nope ISPR never mentioned about total military casualties in it's year end infograpgh or even in recent press briefing by DG.

For 4500 figure by RTI clerk there is a different figure(144) given by much higher authorities.
But for 27 figure corroborated by defence minister there is no other figures.

Let me spoon feed you.

ISPR releases details about all the civilian and military casualties whenever they happen. As pper those press releases there 12 Pakistani military casualties since Sep 29 drama of surgical strikes.

4500+ was given in written form and even you accepted it in a post even though tried to give it a twist of your own.

I never accepted any 27 figure since it is vague and is from a TV program which has no credibility.

The written figure of 4500+ is far more credible than any TV program and even a face saving of 144 cannot hide it.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Much more senior:

https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...ament/1/828589.html?client=ms-android-samsung

Anyways Pakistan admitted loosing 27 soldiers along LoC last year.

https://twitter.com/x/status/802014054382501888

he never said 27 soldiers killed after uri.
Later in briefing to senated he said 12 and it was accurate figure as he cannot lie there.
But about indian deads. More than 20 dead names have been released by indian media in the past with names and places.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...an-troops-after-surgical-strikes-1542254.html
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/pakistan-indian-soldiers-surgical-strike/1/817711.html

As the Defence minister said yes, it is now an official figure.
Also ISPR never gave total figures, even in its year end infograph it gave only total number of civilians killed all the while keeping mouth shut about total number of pakistani soldiers killed.
The 144 soldier figure was corroborated in Legislative Assembly in both June and as well as in December:
http://m.timesofindia.com/india/Pak...pact-as-good-as-over/articleshow/55678657.cms

Only thing the 4500 figure matches with is a 2012 figure by Antony which included soldiers killed from all causes(diseases, accidents etc)



13 killed in cross border firing.
Regular militancy encounters is not a part of border firing.

all of the soldiers were killed in Pakistan firing only.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ng-loc-in-pak-firing-since-2001-army-3738096/
It donot include 450+ dying due to diseases. 2000 in siachin. Nor suicide deaths. It also don't include deaths of BSF and other forces.

Now about ispr not giving collective figures.

 

[Mrc]

Only 4 out of 13 soldiers killed in LoC firing died due to sniper fire.

atleast bother to read the article before going into convulsions

the article says:

In the last four months, over a dozen Indian soldiers have died at the hands of Pakistani snipers.

 

[Armoured Division]

Let me spoon feed you.

ISPR releases details about all the civilian and military casualties whenever they happen. As pper those press releases there 12 Pakistani military casualties since Sep 29 drama of surgical strikes.

4500+ was given in written form and even you accepted it in a post even though tried to give it a twist of your own.

I never accepted any 27 figure since it is vague and is from a TV program which has no credibility.

The written figure of 4500+ is far more credible than any TV program and even a face saving of 144 cannot hide it.

You need gastric feeding tube.

Kid, ISPR never ever gave a total for number of soldiers killed but only fir civilians.
In the absence of alternate figures 27 figure is full & final.
Also the number of civilian cas given in interview matches exactly with the figure given by Sartaj aziz and IAOR later.
We know two more 'civilians' got smoked on LoC in December.

Also the 144 figure was given in an official legislature by minuster both before and after 4500 figure which includes deaths from all causes.
Poor RTI clerk confused it with LoC.

The thing is that 4500 figure got debunked by official data whereas you have completely failed to present any official figure to debunk 27 Pakistani soldiers killed.

atleast bother to read the article before going into convulsions

the article says:

In the last four months, over a dozen Indian soldiers have died at the hands of Pakistani snipers.

The author is wrong, several of the 13 personnel died from mortar fire:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...stry-of-home-affairs-parliament/1/828589.html

he never said 27 soldiers killed.
Later in briefing to senated he said 12 and it was accurate figure as he cannot lie there.
But about indian deads. More than 20 dead names have been released by indian media in the past with names and places.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...an-troops-after-surgical-strikes-1542254.html
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/pakistan-indian-soldiers-surgical-strike/1/817711.html

all of the soldiers were killed in Pakistan firing only.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ng-loc-in-pak-firing-since-2001-army-3738096/
It donot include 450+ dying due to diseases. 2000 in siachin. Nor suicide deaths. It also don't include deaths of BSF and other forces.

Now about ispr not giving collective figures.

Nope the figure of 27 were confirmed as durust by defence minister.
Out of 18 Indian soldiers killed along LoC only 12 were by Pakistani firing and rest by militants attack in which many militants too killed.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

5 were killed by militants

sometimes you called them bat and sometimes militants. I am confused.

 

[Armoured Division]

all of the soldiers were killed in Pakistan firing only.
http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ng-loc-in-pak-firing-since-2001-army-3738096/
It donot include 450+ dying due to diseases. 2000 in siachin. Nor suicide deaths. It also don't include deaths of BSF and other forces.

Now about ispr not giving collective figures.

Nope.
Only 144 including BSF killed in Pakistan firing in 14 years.
4500 figures includes death from all causes.

 

[Areesh]

You need gastric feeding tube.

Kid, ISPR never ever gave a total for number of soldiers killed but only fir civilians.
In the absence of alternate figures 27 figure is full & final.
Also the number of civilian cas given in interview matches exactly with the figure given by Sartaj aziz and IAOR later.
We know two more 'civilians' got smoked on LoC in December.

Also the 144 figure was given in an official legislature by minuster both before and after 4500 figure which includes deaths from all causes.
Poor RTI clerk confused it with LoC.

The thing is that 4500 figure got debunked by official data whereas you have completely failed to present any official figure to debunk 27 Pakistani soldiers killed.


The author is wrong, several of the 13 personnel died from mortar fire:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...stry-of-home-affairs-parliament/1/828589.html

I don't need any feeding.

I made you accept 4500+ figure that is enough for me. Now I am just enjoying seeing you jumping here and there.

ISPR always gave all details about all civilian and military casualties whenever they happened.

And yes 144 figure was given after accepting 4500+ figure in written. I already said earlier it was for face saving and covering the damage.

I never accepted any 27 figure and there is nothing accept a TV program with vague chit chat. For 12 dead of my military I have complete press releases that are far more credible to me and anyone else who is not a pathetic Pakistan obsessed bharati troll.

As @Windjammer said. You are my bunny. You failed with this 27 thing with your earlier accounts and even this one too.

Same would happen this time too.

 

[Armoured Division]

I don't need any feeding.

I made you accept 4500+ figure that is enough for me. Now I am just enjoying seeing you jumping here and there.

ISPR always gave all details about all civilian and military casualties whenever they happened.

And yes 144 figure was given after accepting 4500+ figure in written. I already said earlier it was for face saving and covering the damage.

I never accepted any 27 figure and there is nothing accept a TV program with vague chit chat. For 12 dead of my military I have complete press releases that are far more credible to me and anyone else who is not a pathetic Pakistan obsessed bharati troll.

As @Windjammer said. You are my bunny. You failed with this 27 thing with your earlier account and this one too.

Same would happen this time too.

You need gastric feeding tube.

I always said 4500 deaths includes deaths from All causes in all locations and actual number of border firing deaths is only 144 incl BSF.
Also 4500 figure by RTI clerk was given in November, 144 figure was given in both June and December.

The fact is that ISPR is giving only total civilian casualties band hiding true total of military deaths.

Also you are my pet who gets heart attack and is unable to sleep in my presence.

 

[Windjammer]

Nothing compared to Balochistan, girl.

Oh, you are the one who gets dressed in a Pink saree virtually every day, so much that you even have to hide your identity.
BTW, if you want to compare Balochistan, how many Indian flags you see there now lets talk about IOK....where you can't even hoist Tiranga openly....you are just desperate to post anything.

 

[Mrc]

Nope.
Only 144 including BSF killed in Pakistan firing in 14 years.
4500 figures includes death from all causes.

That includes hunger and starvation i guess

U are talking about soldiers.. fit and mostly healthy... u think 144 out if 4500 died in battle and rest due to tb??lack of toilets??

 

[Areesh]

You need gastric feeding tube.

I always said 4500 deaths includes deaths from All causes in all locations and actual number of border firing deaths is only 144 incl BSF.
Also 4500 figure by RTI clerk was given in November, 144 figure was given in both June and December.

The fact is that ISPR is giving only total civilian casualties band hiding true total of military deaths.

Also you are my pet who gets heart attack and is unable to sleep in my presence.

I need nothing. It is you who needs to stop jumping like a monkey and stand at one position.

Only thing the 4500 figure matches with is a 2012 figure by Antony which included soldiers killed from all causes(diseases, accidents etc)

https://defence.pk/threads/indian-army-losing-sniper-edge-over-pakistan-on-loc.477461/#post-9197470

You accepted 4500 figure but gave it a little twist.

144 figure was a face savng so no need to keep repeating it again and again.

And ISPR gave complete details about both civilian and military casualties.

As for pet thing. Don't talk big kid. Remember what happened here on this forum last time you tried to mess with me with this particular ID? Let me remind you

https://defence.pk/threads/confusio...ilitary-exercise-with-pakistan.451381/page-10

Mann ki Baat

That includes hunger and starvation i guess

U are talking about soldiers.. fit and mostly healthy... u think 144 out if 4500 died in battle and rest due to tb??lack of toilets??

And due to suicides??