Indian Army gets Battle ready on Jaisalmer border with Pakistan.

[Gessler]

I still maintain that under the fog of war all data compiled during peacetime goes haywire.Two main example i can give you indian advance to lahore was halted in 1965 due to confusion even when there was there was no opposing force.In 1971 pakistani advance got halted at longewala.overnight when there were only 120 men opposing it and IAF was not even in sight.As for 1998,2001,2008 2012 your still lack artillery situation is same with MMRCA not even in sight.

How can you compare age-old wars to modern-day battles? Do you think India & pakistan are just like
how they were in 60s and 70s? India now has spy satellites watching the borders 24x7, NOTHING is
hidden (except tunnels) IA knows exactly where what is much better than PA today.

In case of any armored thrust, PA is inadequately equipped with anti-tank weapons and sufficient
np. of attack helicopters to stop the advance, don't even think blundering NASRs can stop an advance,
all our vehicles are NBC-proof. nukes won't make any bigger damage than conventional explosives on
troop positions. They'll only invite sanctions and cutting off supply of spares for critical aircraft like
F-16 and SAAB Erieye for decades to come, it'll only worsen your situation further.

A successful Army operational can only be conducted under a realm of air superiority secured by the
AF, your troops on ground will have hell to jump into with their ai support falling like ninepins against
air-dominance fighters like MKI. Force-multipliers are useful when air superiority has already been
secured, not in an airspace filled with enemy AD fighters equipped with 400-km ranged AWACS-killer
missiles!

Your Navy is in the worst condition than ever, your ships carrying 180km range Harpoon have no
chance of survival against IN stealth warships with 300km-range BrahMos supersonic missiles. Your Navy
lacks effective stealth features in warships (in an naval exercise IN ships carrying emplaced radars
sent to track Shivalik at the sea trials failed to see Shivalik at 100km due to its stealth characteristics),
you have 5 submarines to our 15 (14 conventional, 1 nuclear), plus no aircraft carrier to deploy
sea-based airpower for shore-attacks.

Dont talk about MMRCA you know nothing of, the deal is confirmed, the aircraft is already operational
in the vendor nation AF+navy, all that is left is price negotiation and final inking. Think about your
own aircraft aacquisitions instead, you have some 100-odd 4th generation planes to India's arsenal
of >200 4.5 generation fighters, and that much-hyped FC-20 hasn't even flown as yet!

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

do you think if pakistan strikes first it will lob one nuke and wait for your reaction to lob 1?And after the nuke lobbing none will be alive on subcontinent to see the damage for themselves except you are based in other country just to week on the vapours of loved ones.

Sweetheart,We have subs which can launch missiles and by the way be proud of destroying the subcontinent as it is your idea and you have grown up hearing that from your Army again and again.Our Army inspite of being thereatened by a bigger neighbour like China...ie the same case as yours..never talks of the Nuclear option coz they are capable...When your Army itself doent have faith in their abilities what will they talk about besides nuking India?

 

[Gessler]

Think of small low-power nukes that do more damage to the user than the victim, then think of this! -

ICL-20 high-power conventional explosive

India claims most powerful non-nuclear
explosive device | ****************

Aircraft like MKI & Mirage-2K can carry these bombs and drop them anywhere causing massive
damage and casualities, and without inviting a single sanction! Now thats some tech. Lots of
quantitty of CL-20 can be packed into a big warhead delivered in a missile and/or aircraft to use
against enemy troop positions, its FAR MORE EASY TO HANDLE AND TRANSPORT THAN NUKES,
AND DOES ALMOST AS MUCH DAMAGE TO ENEMY EMPLACEMENTS.

 

[ajtr]

Iknow you guys are all talks and no action types.When real need arise your Govt. is experts at loobing only dossiers.Arey dossiers phekna band karo pakistan ke pass itnay trash cans nahi hain.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Iknow you guys are all talks and no action types.When real need arise your Govt. is experts at loobing only dossiers.Arey dossiers phekna band karo pakistan ke pass itnay trash cans nahi hain.

We have achieved what we wanted to.The whole world believe you are a supporter of terrorist groups thatswhy the Osama Operation in which you guys were not even informed.You have spoilt your image so much so that its better to forget that you are going to get Kashmir by diplomacy and militarily its impossible.So whats your plan for the future besides killing innocents coz you dont have a chance against our Army

 

[illusion8]

Iknow you guys are all talks and no action types.When real need arise your Govt. is experts at loobing only dossiers.Arey dossiers phekna band karo pakistan ke pass itnay trash cans nahi hain.

Dossiers chod thera strategic deterrence ka kya hua , you are a joke ajtr, troll with some sense or STFU.

 

[Gessler]

Iknow you guys are all talks and no action types.When real need arise your Govt. is experts at loobing only dossiers.Arey dossiers phekna band karo pakistan ke pass itnay trash cans nahi hain.

Man up, quit whining every time you lose an arguement, we threw more than a dossier at you
and you failed to catch it even once -

Documentary on Indian Navy killers squadron that lit up Karachi port | defence.pk

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...UagThl57e6BrFZhqg&sig2=iiobzh0TfQaxF9f3sfDeIQ

Vayu Sena - IAF MiG-25 incursion over pakistan in 1997

^^IAF aircraft come and go clicking nice pictures of all your nuke infrastructure and
all that your forces do is to spend 24x7 of your time catching dossiers we throw to distract you

 

[karan.1970]

Man up, quit whining every time you lose an arguement, we threw more than a dossier at you
and you failed to catch it even once -

Documentary on Indian Navy killers squadron that lit up Karachi port | defence.pk

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...UagThl57e6BrFZhqg&sig2=iiobzh0TfQaxF9f3sfDeIQ

Vayu Sena - IAF MiG-25 incursion over pakistan in 1997

^^IAF aircraft come and go clicking nice pictures of all your nuke infrastructure and
all that your forces do is to spend 24x7 of your time catching dossiers we throw to distract you

Why do you guys always spend so much effort on this topic.. When some kid talks about the military ability of India against, just paste the coordinates or maps of Bangladesh and Soltaro ridge.. That should be enough to make a point.. And as a bonus you may get some lame comment about point 5353 rofl in return as comic relief

 

[Gessler]

Why do you guys always spend so much effort on this topic.. When some kid talks about the military ability of India against, just paste the coordinates or maps of Bangladesh and Soltaro ridge.. That should be enough to make a point.. And as a bonus you may get some lame comment about point 5353 rofl in return as comic relief

ya man, im just STRETCHING now its fun debating against people with no points to make

 

[ironman1]

Man up, quit whining every time you lose an arguement, we threw more than a dossier at you
and you failed to catch it even once -

Documentary on Indian Navy killers squadron that lit up Karachi port | defence.pk

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rc...UagThl57e6BrFZhqg&sig2=iiobzh0TfQaxF9f3sfDeIQ

Vayu Sena - IAF MiG-25 incursion over pakistan in 1997

^^IAF aircraft come and go clicking nice pictures of all your nuke infrastructure and
all that your forces do is to spend 24x7 of your time catching dossiers we throw to distract you

nice

 

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

India is no more a threat to PAKISTAN ,
we need to focus about economy, education and internal security and peace ..
stop bothering about barking dogs , cos barking dogs seldom bite , we need to stop caring about india , and should formulate policies that suit us most and can bring us out of poverty and insurgencies ...

 

[Bhai Zakir]

Pakistan has one advantage as compared to india is that most of its cantonments and airbases are right at the border as compared to india.Hence it doesnt require it much time n money to move forces to border as they are right up there on the border.

Its called the disadvantage not the advantage try to learn the meaning of it in today's modern warfare scenarios.

As India's preparations are going with 6 lane roads, 4 lane border roads, multiple railway lines, bridges, tunnels.

Fully independent network centric warfare capabilities.

Acquisitions of IAF, IA and IN.

And full scale production of ammunition etc.

India just need 4-5 years to settle the problem forever.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Thats a good news.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Pakistan has one advantage as compared to india is that most of its cantonments and airbases are right at the border as compared to india.Hence it doesnt require it much time n money to move forces to border as they are right up there on the border.

This is mostly because Pakistan doesn't have the "depth" of India. Being close to the border is a double edged sword because you are also closer to enemy attack and within the 300km range of a certain fellow! This is why the IAF has been reluctant to move its fighter SQDs closer to the borders with Pakistan and China, it has a few foreward based SQDs but not many. But in today's world with supersonic fighters and AAR it is not that nessercary to have foreward deloyed fighters and may prove to more of a liabilty than anything else.

 

[Screambowl]

seems like an exercise.