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Indian Army fears China attack by 2017

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just wants a reason to beef up its military spending and fast trak its modernization , and using china as a scapegoat to do this.
Indian media craves on sensational news so they take things like this too seriously, and they get blown out of proportion.

This is just politics.

No delusions of war.
 
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^^ lets hope there isnt delusions of war

it be be bad for business to say the least

but then again there are precedents for media starting wars

spanish american war anyone?
 
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Accept the fact ISRO2

India is defected in 1962!

Stop justifying why India lost. A lost is a lost! If you cannot accept that, India will never win in future.

Start challenging China in other arena. Winning no. of medals in Olympic or getting India economical bigger than China

We will not have war again!

Really a sportive example... peace is the only thing god loves in any Religions(Christianity/Hindus/Muslim/Buddhist/Jews/Sikhs)

IA
just wants a reason to beef up its military spending and fast trak its modernization , and using china as a scapegoat to do this.
Indian media craves on sensational news so they take things like this too seriously, and they get blown out of proportion.

This is just politics.

No delusions of war.

Its the only reason i think of...


ALL 4 INDIA, INDIA 4 ALL.
 
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Chinese envoy to media: Listen to your leaders- Hindustan Times

Chinese envoy to media: Listen to your leaders

Days after Indian government asked the media to eschew "hype" over reported Chinese incursions, China's ambassador Zhang Yan on Tuesday met Home Secretary GK Pillai in New Delhi and tried to clarify the picture.

"Nothing is happening. You listen to your leaders," Zhang told reporters when asked about his nearly half-an-hour meeting with Pillai.

The Chinese ambassador's meeting came in the wake of repeated assertions by top Indian officials and the army chief that reported incursions have occurred due to differences in perception of the Line of Actual Control.

Even Prime Minister Manmohan Singh downplayed the incursions amid reports about Beijng's unhappiness at the way Chinese border transgressions have been reported in the Indian media to conjure up a China threat.

Seeking to deflate hype over reported Chinese intrusions across the undemarcated border, Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao on Saturday stressed that there was "no significant increase" in incursions across all sections of the over 4,000 km border between the two countries.

"Contrary to the popular perception, the situation along the border has remained peaceful for decades," Rao said.

National Security Adviser MK Narayanan and Army Chief Gen Deepak Kapoor also cautioned against the media hype and stressed that there was nothing alarming about the reported incursions.

Narayanan expressed concern, saying that if such reports continued, "someone somewhere might lose his cool and something might go wrong."

Underlining the developing nature of relationship between India and China, Rao, a former ambassador to China, said the leaderships of the two countries are in regular communication over important bilateral issues.

"We remain in constant touch over all mutual issues. The leadership-level understandings and communication remain open all the time," Rao said.
 
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In other news, Indian Army fears India's annihilation by Chinese in 2017.

China’s military advantage over India vanishing
By Hari Sud
Column: Abroad ViewPublished: September 04, 2009
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Toronto, ON, Canada, — The difference between China’s official words and actual deeds could lead to another conflict with India similar to the one in 1962.
First, China does not like India’s emerging status as a global power. Second, it is paranoid that if India completes its planned military purchases in the next five years, conquering and humiliating it would remain a distant dream. Third, China wants to grab the town of Tawang, birthplace of the current Dalai Lama, on the Indian side of the Tibet border. This is a symbolic Chinese ploy to let the Tibetans know who their real masters are.

China began a massive military exercise in mid-August called “Stride 2009,” deploying 50,000 troops in areas far from their home bases for live-fire drills. According to analysts, the exercise shows China’s readiness to respond quickly to unrest in any part of the country. It also demonstrates the effectiveness of China’s infrastructure, which allows the quick deployment of troops hundreds of miles away. The program culminates on Oct. 1, China’s 60th anniversary.

China maintains 30-40 divisions of reserve forces in its central provinces. But Tibet and the Indian border are outside this area of quick deployment, linked by a single rail line built on permafrost. While the exercise sheds lights on China’s reserve force, it is not India-specific yet. Still India, lately busy on the Pakistan border, may need to alter its defense posture.

China’s former leader Deng Xiaoping put the border dispute with India on the back burner in 1978. But he made an agreement with India that both countries would maintain a standstill in the Himalayas and avoid military build-up.

The promise held until 1998, when China began improving its military infrastructure in the Himalayas and building multiple missile bases. But it did not increase its ground forces, which stood at 200,000 soldiers.

India also kept its bargain and did not add a single soldier to its 30,000 in the east and 20,000 in the west. India even held off building new roads and improving infrastructure in its border areas. In hindsight that was a mistake.

Recently, China’s building of an intercontinental missile base at Delingha, north of Tibet, has set alarm bells ringing. Most of Russia and India are within its missile range, and being far from Taiwan keeps it sheltered from the U.S. gaze.

In the past 30 years India has held 13 high-level talks with China on the demarcation of the border, the last one in July this year. Each proved fruitless. China wants the Tawang tract and will not talk about vacating the Akash Chin plateau in Kashmir.

To make its point it has begun building more roads, missile bases and airfields in addition to its existing military infrastructure. It is also encouraging Nepal to enter into a free trade treaty, giving the Chinese an excuse to add more roads and possibly a rail link to bring them closer to India.

Tibet has become more restive in the past ten years. Last year’s pre-Olympic riots blew the lid off China’s tight security when its 200,000 force had to be split between law and order and border guard duties. While China marginally increased the force during the riots, India augmented its force only slightly. Now its military strength in Tibet is insufficient to conquer India or the Tawang tract, although border skirmishes remain a possibility.

India has its own evaluation of the China threat. A decision to engage China through diplomatic channels between 2001 and 2005 produced no results, so India decided to go for a military build-up. Eight mountain divisions trained to fight in the Himalayas will be augmented by two more, and an additional 60,000 ground troops will be sent to the east closer to Tawang and to the state of Sikkim. Also, some 20,000 additional troops will be added to the current strength in the west in Ladakh.

Three airfields lying derelict in the east and three in the west have been activated. A major airbase only 200 miles from the Tibetan border will be upgraded to serve India’s premier Sukhoi fighter. This airfield is a major threat to China’s rail link. India has also initiated other road-building activities. One will connect Ladakh with the rest of India via Manali-Rohtang. Another will connect Itanagar, capital of Arunachal Pradesh state, with neighboring Assam.

These developments could effectively neutralize China’s current advantage. Besides, Indian troops are much more capable in jungle and mountain warfare than they were in 1962. India’s conflict with Kashmir in Kargil in 1999 has presumably shown China that Indians cannot be beaten on the ground as easily as they were in 1962.

China won the 1962 battle with India by indulging in classic Chinese warfare tactics – confusing the enemy with conciliatory signals. On the ground, India had incompetent generals leading a brave bunch of soldiers. Additionally, Chinese soldiers had an advantage with their Soviet copies of German-designed submachine guns called “burp guns.” The rapid-fire submachine guns overwhelmed the Indians, who were carrying World War II Lee Enfield rifles.

Things have now changed; India’s current assault rifle is comparable to China’s and India’s generals have learned the art of war.

India will receive new military hardware in the next five years. Its newly commissioned nuclear submarine will be fully operational by 2012 or 2013, and the Russian aircraft carrier on order is expected to join the Indian navy. Indian-made light combat aircraft and imported medium combat aircraft will be operational in squadron strength.

All this hardware, plus ultra-light artillery fit for action in the Himalayas, will soon become operational. By 2014 India will have twice its current firepower and ten times that of 1962.

So China is planning a new strategy that includes cruise-missile attacks on the Indian heartland and confrontation on the high seas. The biggest threats to India are missiles launched from Tibet and China’s naval armada in the Indian Ocean.

Chinese cruise missiles with a range of 1,500 miles launched from Tibet and intermediate-range ballistic missiles launched from Delingha are big threats. India’s industrial heartland and military bases lie within their range, and new guidance systems make the missiles highly accurate. There is no known defense against a massed attack by some 200 cruise missiles. India’s only hope is that they would miss their targets after traveling 600 miles over the Himalayas.

China is depending most on its naval armada in the Indian Ocean. It has a surveillance station off the Myanmar coast and a newly built naval port in Gawdar, Pakistan. Both are militarily significant. But India counters this advantage with its naval base at the western mouth of the Gulf of Malacca on Andaman Island.

If an overconfident China decided to test Indian resolve by creating an incident, India could retaliate by capturing China’s surveillance base off the Myanmar coast. This could escalate hostilities, but China would risk losing its oil supplies if it stepped up the conflict.

It is pointless for China to wage war with India. Instead, the two countries should engage in greater trade and business, which can bring more prosperity. An unsuccessful invasion of India would be a terrible loss for the Chinese.
 
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There is now high probability that China would attack India in the next two years

Reasons:
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1) India's arms procurement plans has been greatly delayed

2) West and Russia are busy in middle east wars

3) India's recent procurement plans would start seeing some results in 3-5 years

4) Maoist party rule in Nepal

5) Favorable government in Myanmar


6) Western investments under MII and DTTI may start in the next 2 years


Signs of China's war Preparation:
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1) Obtained naval bases/ports in Pakistan, Sri Lanka & Myanmar

2) Military build up of Pakistan, Sri Lanka & Myanmar

3) Boosted it's defensive and offensive capabilities with S-400 and SU-35 procurements while denying the same to India

Result:
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India would be thoroughly defeated and balkanized into 30 countries.
 
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There is now high probability that China would attack India in the next two years

Reasons:
========

1) India's arms procurement plans has been greatly delayed

2) West and Russia are busy in middle east wars

3) India's recent procurement plans would start seeing some results in 3-5 years

4) Maoist party rule in Nepal

5) Favorable government in Myanmar


6) Western investments under MII and DTTI may start in the next 2 years


Signs of China's war Preparation:
===========================

1) Obtained naval bases/ports in Pakistan, Sri Lanka & Myanmar

2) Military build up of Pakistan, Sri Lanka & Myanmar

3) Boosted it's defensive and offensive capabilities with S-400 and SU-35 procurements while denying the same to India

Result:
=======

India would be thoroughly defeated and balkanized into 30 countries.
Want to bet?
 
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There is now high probability that China would attack India in the next two years

Reasons:
========

1) India's arms procurement plans has been greatly delayed

2) West and Russia are busy in middle east wars

3) India's recent procurement plans would start seeing some results in 3-5 years

4) Maoist party rule in Nepal

5) Favorable government in Myanmar


6) Western investments under MII and DTTI may start in the next 2 years


Signs of China's war Preparation:
===========================

1) Obtained naval bases/ports in Pakistan, Sri Lanka & Myanmar

2) Military build up of Pakistan, Sri Lanka & Myanmar

3) Boosted it's defensive and offensive capabilities with S-400 and SU-35 procurements while denying the same to India

Result:
=======

India would be thoroughly defeated and balkanized into 30 countries.

It is a very costly affair.
 
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If they invade, we launch the Agni Vs. Then everybody dies.

Angi V has always been last resort which may or may not be used as India has NFU.

The fact that we are talking about Agni V itself reflects the state of India's preparedness or the lack thereof.
 
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Angi V has always been last resort which may or may not be used as India has NFU.

The fact that we are talking about Agni V itself reflects the state of India's preparedness or the lack thereof.

Steps are being taken, though it seems not much since most of it in indigenous route.

Akash
Dhanush howitzer
Pinaka
Dhruv Wsi
T90
Bhramos mk3

That I can think of in the most neglected army itself.
Whilst navy is most invested branch .
 
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Yes it may be but from China's perspective waiting further would make it even costlier.



Yes but in Rupees not in Renminbi :D
China has a long history though shorter than India's. But all Chinese know every united country will break apart and every fractioned country will unite. Therefore we have all patience we can get. Somehow, Indian people with longer history don't seem have such patience.
 
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@dadeechi is right. There is a very high possibility of China waging a war on India. The probable year is 2019. China is strengthening its anti-missile and anti-aircraft capabilities with S-400 which will give them a huge advantage. India must immediately buy S-400 from Russia in sufficient numbers even if it means giving in to Russian blackmailing. India's security is most Important. Military modernization needs to be done on a war footing. sufficient numbers of military hardware needs to be added as quickly as possible. wake up before its too late.
 
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