I'm aware of the reality that you seem to overlook. It is 14 years since 1999 & the world has changed so much as to make observing from a peak irrelevant. Whatever it is that you are observing, it seems to have given you nothing tangible whatsoever.
And how can you be so sure of it? Did you personaly interview the CO of that post? Did you access the material files regarding this case? If the commanders present there are pouring in resources into the peak, it must hold some significance for the troops.
We hold Siachen, we hold the Kashmir we have held & you have coveted. What has that peak earned for you? If you believe it is worth the bitterness & the deaths caused, so be it. I'm concerned not with what holding that peak does to what is left of your morale, I was merely pointing out that in practical terms, it means nothing. If you wait a few more years, they would have completely bypassed that road & what would you be watching then from that peak?
Considering how hard you are trying to convince me that these peaks don't mean anything, i am actually convinced now that they do hold some importance. As i said previously, if the local and strategic PA commanders have decided to pour resources into that peak, it holds importance for us.
We can inflict far more pain on you , as we are doing by insisting on staying in Siachen & forcing your lot to stay there.
You wish. We don't mind at all staying there, after all the Indians have lost more troops compared to Pakistan last i checked. But in my personal opinion i do object to the warfare in Siachen, it is simply useless and hardly has any strategic or tactical value. Both sides are too well entrenched, it is next to impossible to evict either one of them. It is just a battle of the egos, one that has cost India more in terms of blood compared to Pakistan. So please, keep your utopian stories for your fellow brethren and not me.
What price that peak? What price that adventure? Whatever small incidents that happen on the LoC or even a larger incident like that in Mumbai doesn't change anything in the overall picture.
It does change the picture, it makes India look impotent infront of the world community. While India on one hand is aspiring to be a global power and wants to be treated as such, but on the other hand she cannot tame a country that is only 1/10th of her size. India makes all sorts of hues and cry against Pakistan in the international community, but has failed in its endeavour to declare Pakistan a rogue terrorist state and effectively deliver a knock out blow to Pakistan considering the fact that Indian military budget is higher than that of the entire Pakistani budget.
I don't know whether you draw comfort from the peak you hold or feel the pain of a hardened Indian position on Siachen in the deaths of the soldiers at the Gyari camp, that is your call.
Keep your gloating to yourself, the Gyari Camp incident was a natural disaster and could have certainly struck the Martian Indian Army, but i guess Mother Nature had other plans.
The proof of the pudding, as I have repeatedly said, is in the eating. Pakistani adventure in Kargil might have gotten you one peak but that is cold comfort when you consider what has been lost, both militarily & for the democracy of your country (direct correlation to the coup),
I have consistiently maintained that Pakistan lost both on the diplomatic and economic front due to the Kargil misadventure. Don't have much sympathy for that sham democracy that was implemented by NS, the coup was inevitable due to the failed policies of our political leaders.
not to say of any chance to make peace with India on Siachen or the larger question of Kashmir. Any peace now will have to be on our terms or not at all. That is the legacy of the stupidity in 1999.
Well than we will not have peace at all. India needs to get over the fact that she is the big brother of the region, she needs to accept that Pakistan is no Nepal or Bhutan where India can have its sway, Pakistan is a powerful nation that will conclude peace that suits its own interests. India should understand that Pakistan is no push over, the bloody nose that Pakistan gave to India in 2002 and 2008 is ample proof that Pakistan retains enough power to strike back hard at India with impressive military force. If India believes that she can strike peace with Pakistan on its own terms, than there is going to be no peace because Pakistan will only sign a peace agreement if its according to its own interests.
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