Indian Air Force Wants more than 100 Rafales or Similar Jets

[45'22']

he's just putting down his view, nothing better than your or mine.

One can tell from his tweets that he isnt happy nd he was also hinting that something is going on with.the americans.....

I hope its a rumor

 

[MilSpec]

One can tell from his tweets that he isnt happy nd he was also hinting that something is going on with.the americans.....

I hope its a rumor

Happy? Who is?

LCA is delayed, F125 engine delayed, MMRCA delayed, road map uncertain... it's all a big cluster fck... just IN is a bearer of good news.

 

[Sinnerman108]

After having enough water pass through Ganges, the headlines have changed to "Rafale or similar Jets"

KEWL !!

They are playing the diplomatic game ... with Russia i.e.

Similar Jet = Russia ! it isn't all over ...

 

[Donatello]

Didn't they figure this out like, 10 years ago in 2005 and hence went about issuing a RFP in 2009?

Happy? Who is?

LCA is delayed, F125 engine delayed, MMRCA delayed, road map uncertain... it's all a big cluster fck... just IN is a bearer of good news.

You missed the AMCA and PAK-FA

 

[MilSpec]

You missed the AMCA and PAK-FA

AMCA and PAKFA both on track...
There are no plans PMF FGFA to even enter production before 2019, as MKI production line will continue upto 19, then comes the question of FGFA... AMCA, I heven't followed too many development on that project. The roadmap seems to concurrent Eng, From what we have seen on the LCA, design to mfg of the airframe - took minimal amount of time, Propulsion and avionics are the head ache and will remain so that project unless IAF makes a pragmatic decision to incorporate FGFA powerplant.

 

[silent poison]

man, you are a genius!!!! I'd highly suggest you put a Hornet against a Rafale. Hornets have the latest avionics out of the -15, -16 force. They are now upgrading the -15 and the -16 with tech used in Hornets years ago. We have them in a specialized Naval role and there is a reason for it.

Hornets face the enemy directly whether on strike missions or on combat. And are slightly ahead of the -15 and -16.

If Hornets weren't top notch, a country like the US, wouldn't have put them on as their main enemy facing air assets where the USAF doesn't exist at times. In other words, Hornets don't always get the air-cover from the -22's. They have to make the mission and achieve the goals on their own, which then means, they have to be THAT advanced to do the job.

I'd suggest you do research or ask someone who might know a things or two about a topic before posting utter crap.



The French didn't AGREE to the 36. The French told Mr. Modi that if the Rafale weren't bought, the Scorpions and all, would be in geopardy as the Indians were dragging their feet for years and wasting time. And that the price tag would go up. So to calm the Frenchies down, Modi issued an executive order to buy the Rafale. And in this deal, the French aren't going to honor the TOT as the price is very cheap compared to how they sell these. And they won't follow the off setting laws of India either where 30% of the investment / payment remains in India.

So they really FORCED India to buy these. Same thing with the Apache's and the Chinooks, these discussions have been happening since 2009. The US told India that starting October, the price won't be discounted and actually jumps up by the manufacturer by 40%. That brought Modi with his check book for the UN visit and the things was agreed as a sale.

India just takes too long and they don't seem to be happy with anything. Not realizing that the West has its own defense industry. They don't really "need" India if India didn't exist or was a smaller country. But if India buys it, they'd like more $$$$ as every business does. But that doesn't mean India has "such" an upper hand that it can dictate serious stuff.

So if you need to get more Rafales, you go back to the drawing table again with the French and TOT and all other issues have to be re-discussed. They were VERY clear that the cost they quoted India, didn't allow for them accessories like the TOT and 30% offset, etc. The cost will need to be higher for those things to exist. Or India should go the Russian way

man, you are a genius!!!! I'd highly suggest you put a Hornet against a Rafale. Hornets have the latest avionics out of the -15, -16 force. They are now upgrading the -15 and the -16 with tech used in Hornets years ago. We have them in a specialized Naval role and there is a reason for it.

Hornets face the enemy directly whether on strike missions or on combat. And are slightly ahead of the -15 and -16.

If Hornets weren't top notch, a country like the US, wouldn't have put them on as their main enemy facing air assets where the USAF doesn't exist at times. In other words, Hornets don't always get the air-cover from the -22's. They have to make the mission and achieve the goals on their own, which then means, they have to be THAT advanced to do the job.

I'd suggest you do research or ask someone who might know a things or two about a topic before posting utter crap.



The French didn't AGREE to the 36. The French told Mr. Modi that if the Rafale weren't bought, the Scorpions and all, would be in geopardy as the Indians were dragging their feet for years and wasting time. And that the price tag would go up. So to calm the Frenchies down, Modi issued an executive order to buy the Rafale. And in this deal, the French aren't going to honor the TOT as the price is very cheap compared to how they sell these. And they won't follow the off setting laws of India either where 30% of the investment / payment remains in India.

So they really FORCED India to buy these. Same thing with the Apache's and the Chinooks, these discussions have been happening since 2009. The US told India that starting October, the price won't be discounted and actually jumps up by the manufacturer by 40%. That brought Modi with his check book for the UN visit and the things was agreed as a sale.

India just takes too long and they don't seem to be happy with anything. Not realizing that the West has its own defense industry. They don't really "need" India if India didn't exist or was a smaller country. But if India buys it, they'd like more $$$$ as every business does. But that doesn't mean India has "such" an upper hand that it can dictate serious stuff.

So if you need to get more Rafales, you go back to the drawing table again with the French and TOT and all other issues have to be re-discussed. They were VERY clear that the cost they quoted India, didn't allow for them accessories like the TOT and 30% offset, etc. The cost will need to be higher for those things to exist. Or India should go the Russian way

Hmm you are banned well u deserve it ... Rest read about things before commenting .

 

[IAmKalam]

Happy? Who is?

LCA is delayed, F125 engine delayed, MMRCA delayed, road map uncertain... it's all a big cluster fck... just IN is a bearer of good news.

I am happy.. So what if LCA is delayed... Down the line "Imported Air Force" has to take 120 LCA... No matter how much the IAF crib, they will get 120 LCA..

If Modi Sarkar will hold up for next 2 term, the count of LCA will go to 200.. (12 Squadron)

MMRCA will be sabotaged..

IAF may get MiG and Sukhoi... But that too after pleading ... Those days are gone when Gaddars (traitors) use to make teh descision.. Now patriot Govt in delhi..