Indian Air Force News & Discussions

[sudhir007]

Killing combat air trainer (CAT) Project was a mistake IDRW.ORG

Back in 2004 when The State-run aviation major, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) had plans to design and develop a combat trainer jet for the Indian Air Force (IAF).proposed twin-engine jet trainer with enhanced capability ,large wings and fuselage and a hi-tech cockpit for enhanced training capability was rejected by Indian air force and Mod which had made plans to re-order more 66 British-made Hawk advanced jet trainers (AJT), which IAF is in process of been acquired . after five years now the Indian Ministry of Defence put out requests for information (RFI) for advanced jet trainers to meet a requirement of 57 new trainer aircraft, of which the Indian Air Force needs 40 and the Indian Navy, 17, Proposal which has been send to six makers of AJT around the world including BAE . HAL had even submitted a proposal regarding this to Mod and IAF and had promised first prototype in 39 months once go head was given by Government , now after one crash of newly acquired Hawks and pathetic supply of spares by British Aerospace most of the jet are fast becoming Hangar queens in Bidar in karnataka , where they are currently based for Training Young pilots for Indian air force . Lack of aircrafts have effected the pilot training , if the go head was given for Combat air trainer (CAT) Project way back in 2006 we could had some prototypes ready and using the same Saturn AL-55I engine with about 16.9 kN of thrust which currently powers HJT-36 Sitara which will replace the HJT-16 Kiran in its role as a trainer (Stage-2) in the Indian Air Force. CAT would have been positioned between the intermediate jet trainer (IJT) and light combat aircraft (LCA) and could have been way better than imported Hawks ,using similar avionics developed for LCA and IJT-36 could have kept the Development cost of the jet also low and could have been developed as a secondary ground attack aircraft for Indian air force .

 

[Haanzo]

NEW DELHI - India's air force on October 1 announced plans to buy scores of new trainer jets for a new generation of pilots as the rapidly developing country boosts its military capability.

Air Force chief P.V. Naik said India would buy up to 80 planes from abroad in a deal thought to be worth $5.5 billion, while a similar number would be made by domestic manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautical.

India in 2004 purchased 66 Hawk trainer jets worth $1.45 billion and Naik said negotiations were on with British defense equipment firm BAE Systems for additional purchases.

India's air force, the fourth largest in the world, has ambitious expansion plans and is currently conducting trials before buying 126 new fighter jets for $12 billion.

"We are modernizing in a very big way," Naik told reporters. "We are looking for a meaner and leaner air force."

The United States in March approved the sale to New Delhi of eight Boeing anti-submarine aircraft worth $2.1 billion, the largest ever sale of U.S. arms to India.

Indian Air Force Unveils Upgrade Plan - Defense News



IAF ROCKS

 

[Hulk]

Good news, we should buy more, its the need of hour.

 

[AnGrz_Z_K_Jailer]

IAF to phase out HPT-32 trainer aircraft by 2014

After losing two of its experienced fighter pilot instructors in a trainer aircraft crash in July, the IAF is all set to phase out such jets by 2014, Air Chief Marshal P V Naik said on Thursday.

"The IAF lost two experienced instructors in a fatal crash of HPT-32 this year. We have ordered an inquiry and a study on the aircraft, as we have had a lot of problems since their induction in 1984. We hope to use it only till 2013-14," Naik told reporters here.

HPT-32 or Hindustan Piston Trainer of HAL is IAF's primary aircraft for basic fighter pilot training. Two of IAF's instructors were killed in the mishap near Medak involving this aircraft on July 31 following which the aircraft was grounded leading to a crisis in training.

"I have ordered a special study by Air Vice Marshal Pradeep Singh, an experienced fighter pilot on the problems with HPT-32. Other agencies are also involved in the study," Naik said.

As an alternative, the Air Force chief said the rookie pilots were now being trained on another indigenous HAL aircraft, the Kirans.

"This experiment of training on Kirans has been quite successful. May be, for another year-and-a-half we will continue with this. I am sure by then, we will be able to find an alternative to HPT-32 to continue training unhindered," he added.

Link : IAF to phase out HPT-32 trainer aircraft by 2014: India Today - Latest Breaking News from India, World, Business, Cricket, Sports, Bollywood.

 

[shchinese]

good news indeed.

the more you spend, the poorer your people will be. those money could have been better spend to improve your health care/education/roads and etc.

120+ fighters changes nothing, your capital is within our guided rocket's operational range. keep this in mind, that is the most important factors to consider.

there is only choice for india: stop being the neo-nazi in asia, stop fighting with all its neighbor countries.

 

[Tejas-MkII]

IAF wants 50 more Sukhois to counter China, Pakistan - India - NEWS - The Times of India

IAF wants 50 more Sukhois to counter China, Pakistan


NEW DELHI: With both China and Pakistan bolstering their air combat fleets, IAF is now seeking another 50 Sukhoi-30MKI multi-role "air dominance"
fighters to cater for any contingency on both the eastern and western fronts. These 50 new Sukhois will in addition to the 230 of these twin-seater fighters already contracted from Russia in three deals worth upwards of $8.5 billion.

Having inducted 105 of the 230 Sukhois till now, IAF has already begun to base these jets in the North-East in a clear move to counter China's rapid modernisation of its armed forces. Incidentally, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd has been directed to complete the manufacture of 140 of the 230 Sukhois under transfer of technology by 2015 at all costs.

India's "dissuasive deterrence" military posture against China, after all, revolves around the Sukhois as well as the 3,500km nuclear-capable Agni-III missile, which will be ready for operational deployment by 2011, and the 5,000km range Agni-V missile in the pipeline.

IAF chief Air Chief Marshal P V Naik confirmed to TOI on Thursday that his force was indeed "interested" in acquiring more Sukhois, which will be the mainstay of India's fighter fleet for the forseeable future, to further enhance its combat potential.

Bombarded by a spate of questions on the military equation vis-a-vis China on day the People's Liberation Army showcased its staggering military might to mark 60 years of communism, ACM Naik said IAF's acquisition of combat capabilities was not "country or adversary-specific". While exuding "confidence" that a repeat of the 1962 conflict was simply "not possible", the IAF chief said, "We need to develop certain capabilities which are required or will be required in the future in tune with India's aspirations."
IAF, after all, needs to project power as well as have "strategic reach" from Hormuz Strait near Persian Gulf right down to Malacca Strait, which India visualises as its primary area of geopolitical interest. In its quest to emerge as a "strategic aerospace force", IAF has embarked on a major modernisation drive, which ranges from Israeli AWACS and aerostat radars to American C-130J 'Super Hercules' aircraft.

 

[vkurian]

good news indeed.

the more you spend, the poorer your people will be. those money could have been better spend to improve your health care/education/roads and etc.

120+ fighters changes nothing, your capital is within our guided rocket's operational range. keep this in mind, that is the most important factors to consider.

there is only choice for india: stop being the neo-nazi in asia, stop fighting with all its neighbor countries.

Hey hold on...

Who is trying to be a Neo Nazi here.... One who is trying to threaten taiwan ,japan, trying to forcefully occupy indian land and violating NPT by passing on the nuclear technology and becoming the bomb testing labs of rouge nations of the world All know north korea is your illegitmat child .You have generated great wealth by trading with Iran, somalia,sudan or zimbawbe by brushing aside the human right concerns against these countries.

We are spending money on defence within our means and we have not tried to take any land from any of our neibghours or made a show of force.

You should realise whole of china is not shanghai yes you have developed but by building glass walls on your streets you can hide poverty from the glare of media but you must not lie to your self. When you spend trillions on defence you have millions not enough to eat so lets not ignore the log in our eyes and try to point out the speck in others eye.

For either of us to grow we don't need to show the other as small as their is enough room for all.

 

[Ingis]

good news indeed.

the more you spend, the poorer your people will be. those money could have been better spend to improve your health care/education/roads and etc.

India has enough money to meet its defence demand and to ensure the economic upliftment of poor people.

The poor people in India are doing fine and Indian policymakers do not need to taunted. Read BBC's very recent article -

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Rural India powering economic growth

And a country's economy cannot be strong unless there is not much investor confidence. And investor confidence cannot be strong unless the country cannot meet internal and external threats.

Strong military is necessary for India's strong economy, especially considering the fact that it is surrounded by war-mongering nations.

 

[shchinese]

India has enough money to meet its defence demand and to ensure the economic upliftment of poor people.

The poor people in India are doing fine and Indian policymakers do not need to taunted. Read BBC's very recent article -

BBC NEWS | South Asia | Rural India powering economic growth

And a country's economy cannot be strong unless there is not much investor confidence. And investor confidence cannot be strong unless the country cannot meet internal and external threats.

Strong military is necessary for India's strong economy, especially considering the fact that it is surrounded by war-mongering nations.

I don't watch/read anything from BBC regarding how fancy India is.

it is their intention for using india as a counter measure for china. to do that, they first make you believe you are qualified as such a counter measure.

no matter how you troll, the truth is given the current gap of economy and technology, whatever you order, we can build 3-4x more in China.

 

[shchinese]

Hey hold on...

Who is trying to be a Neo Nazi here.... One who is trying to threaten taiwan ,japan, trying to forcefully occupy indian land and violating NPT by passing on the nuclear technology and becoming the bomb testing labs of rouge nations of the world All know north korea is your illegitmat child .You have generated great wealth by trading with Iran, somalia,sudan or zimbawbe by brushing aside the human right concerns against these countries.

We are spending money on defence within our means and we have not tried to take any land from any of our neibghours or made a show of force.

You should realise whole of china is not shanghai yes you have developed but by building glass walls on your streets you can hide poverty from the glare of media but you must not lie to your self. When you spend trillions on defence you have millions not enough to eat so lets not ignore the log in our eyes and try to point out the speck in others eye.

For either of us to grow we don't need to show the other as small as their is enough room for all.

of course india.

india is having border disputes with ALL it neighbors.
had so many different bloody wars with its neighbors.
india is threating its neighbor with nukes and refuse to sign the NPT.

 

[Merilion]

good news indeed.

the more you spend, the poorer your people will be. those money could have been better spend to improve your health care/education/roads and etc.

120+ fighters changes nothing, your capital is within our guided rocket's operational range. keep this in mind, that is the most important factors to consider.

there is only choice for india: stop being the neo-nazi in asia, stop fighting with all its neighbor countries.

Dude stick to the topic. Why you want to care about other's health care/education/roads? If you really do, open a new thread in some other section.
The first line of your post is good enough, the rest can be deleted. We all will understand what you really mean.

 

[QADRI]

good news indeed.

the more you spend, the poorer your people will be. those money could have been better spend to improve your health care/education/roads and etc.

120+ fighters changes nothing, your capital is within our guided rocket's operational range. keep this in mind, that is the most important factors to consider.

there is only choice for india: stop being the neo-nazi in asia, stop fighting with all its neighbor countries.

I totally agree with you dude...even Pakistan is spending more on defence rather then on economy but we are forced to do defence spendings because of our security...If we have no threats from our neighbours then honestly speaking we don't ever want to spend lot of money on defence.

 

[duhastmish]

isnt it great - chinese are afraid of american and russian and indian and europe. lol they are the one directing too much money - on their defence - an 8 days show of their russian copy weapons.

when whole country was put on fullstop.

how worst their insecurity can get ?????

when we saw the parada it shows everythng - chinese elite class or kings were allowed - where as chinese people were not even allowed to come and see because this defence is not their's but fo those rulers.

if you call that freedom - when u cant even see your own national parade loool - be happy with it !!!!!! in your cardboard box. which is just waitign for one rain and it all will come down.

 

[X11]

good news indeed.

the more you spend, the poorer your people will be. those money could have been better spend to improve your health care/education/roads and etc.

120+ fighters changes nothing, your capital is within our guided rocket's operational range. keep this in mind, that is the most important factors to consider.

there is only choice for india: stop being the neo-nazi in asia, stop fighting with all its neighbor countries.

120 fighters mean nothing ?

1 fifth gen fighter can easily take down 5-6 4 gen fighters.

In warfare, if you have slightly high technology than your enemy, it can make a difference.

We have better tech weapons than chinese. Chinese weapons are generally not "Made in china" they are "Manufactured in China". You guys know nothing but to steal and copy designs.

Just in case if you dont know, even SU-30 MKI has better capabilities than MKK version which you guys use.

With P-8i..just watch how we fish out your third class subs.

Don't worry about our health care and education, we we improving ourselves.

Number of poor in India has halved since 1990...but it has doubled in China. While people are rich in city, poor chinese in western part are jobless. Google it and find out....if you can't I will give you the links.

 

[Ingis]

I don't watch/read anything from BBC regarding how fancy India is.

it is their intention for using india as a counter measure for china. to do that, they first make you believe you are qualified as such a counter measure.

In that case, you must no reading/watching 90% of non-Chinese media.

no matter how you troll, the truth is given the current gap of economy and technology, whatever you order, we can build 3-4x more in China.

India's sole purpose is to build credible military to offset any external military invasion. Agreed that China can build more weapons and has bigger army, but it is going to think several times more now before repeating the 1962 conflict.