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hmm Getting personal.. that's another sign of a Looser ...Now what did i interpret wrong tell me... you learnt from all the information provided by my learned friends here and you yourself agreed finally that SLV3 is not exact copy of Scout isn't it?
But the report states otherwise so obviously one has to be wrong. :lol:Anyways don't worry I know you have major ego issues and everybody knows that. I know it has hurt your ego so much that you fell down to personal attacks.
Well whatever makes you happy... :)

I have a advice for you. READ and LEARN.
before you refute the creditability of the source and make a complete joke out of yourself do know what Wisconsin Project is.
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The Project has also provided direct assistance to U.S. and foreign government agencies to help them improve their export controls. In cooperation with the U.S. Defense and State Departments, the Project has trained nearly 800 export control officials in some 30 countries around the world. This initiative began in 1998, with countries in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union. It has since expanded to include countries elsewhere that are of concern for transshipment and diversion.

Out of the entire articles of truth you could only find "exact copy" and take it out of context to suite your ego. Ironically the same sources states which that other then Americans the Europeans mostly French and Germans contributed in the development of SLV-3 which is based on Scout Missile of Indian version. Either you lack the capability to read or comprehend anything.
 
I have a advice for you. READ and LEARN.
before you refute the creditability of the source and make a complete joke out of yourself do know what Wisconsin Project is.


Out of the entire articles of truth you could only find "exact copy" and take it out of context to suite your ego. Ironically the same sources states which that other then Americans the Europeans mostly French and Germans contributed in the development of SLV-3 which is based on Scout Missile of Indian version. Either you lack the capability to read or comprehend anything.


Ok man, whatever feels you happy.

Bottom line is India owns SLV-3 technology.

If you are building an helicopter, you needs rotary blades and it resembles pakistan helicopter !!!. As per your logic it is copy. Happy.. Enjoy the weekend.
 
I have a advice for you. READ and LEARN.
before you refute the creditability of the source and make a complete joke out of yourself do know what Wisconsin Project is.


Out of the entire articles of truth you could only find "exact copy" and take it out of context to suite your ego. Ironically the same sources states which that other then Americans the Europeans mostly French and Germans contributed in the development of SLV-3 which is based on Scout Missile of Indian version. Either you lack the capability to read or comprehend anything.

They even claimed there were WMDs in Iraq. What happened did anybody find any WMDs there? Mate its only a propoganda machine nothing more than that...
 
Ok man, whatever feels you happy.

Bottom line is India owns SLV-3 technology.

If you are building an helicopter, you needs rotary blades and it resembles pakistan helicopter !!!. As per your logic it is copy. Happy.. Enjoy the weekend.

I can understand your pain. :pop:
 
How U.S. Exports Helped Fuel the South Asian Arms Race

India and Pakistan, fresh from testing nuclear devices, are poised to build missiles that could deliver the bomb deep into each other's territory. The United States deplores these developments, but along with other countries, stands guilty of supplying much of the necessary technology.

In fact, India's next generation of nuclear missiles will probably be designed with the help of American-made equipment.

U.S. officials say that in 1996, Digital Equipment Corp. shipped a supercomputer to the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, a key missile research site. Supercomputers are the most powerful tools known for designing nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them. They can model the thrust of a rocket, calculate the heat and pressure on a warhead entering the Earth's atmosphere and simulate virtually every other force affecting a missile from launch to impact. Because of the billions of computations needed to solve these problems, a supercomputer's speed is invaluable for efficiently finding design solutions.

The DEC computer will come in handy at the Indian Institute of Science. The institute is on the British government's official list of organizations that procure goods and technology for India's missile programs. It develops India's most advanced rocket propellants, guidance systems and nose cones. Its wind tunnels and other equipment analyze rocket fuel combustion and flight performance. It has even been linked in published reports to India's new nuclear-capable missile called the "Sagarika," intended to be launched from submarines.

International Business Machines Corp. supplied the institute with an even more powerful supercomputer. According to IBM spokesman Fred McNeese, IBM installed the supercomputer at the institute's Supercomputing Education and Research Center, which specializes in computer-aided design. The machine operated at 1.4 billion operations per second when installed in 1994, and IBM upgraded it in March 1997 to perform 3.2 billion operations per second and again in June 1997 to 5.8 billion, making it one of the most powerful computers in India.

The pro-export Commerce Department granted a license for the DEC sale, despite the notoriety of the institute as a missile site. Commerce also licensed the original installation by IBM, but IBM performed the upgrades without a license, in apparent violation of the law.

This week, the U.S. Customs Service opened an investigation into the IBM upgrades. It is already investigating IBM for selling a supercomputer to Russia's leading nuclear weapons lab under similar circumstances.

The U.S. government requires an American company to obtain an export license if it wants to sell to a bomb-prone nation like India a computer that performs more than 2 billion operations per second. IBM claimed an exception, that allows such computers to be shipped as long as the buyer is not connected to nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, missile or military work. The seller must ensure that the exception applies, which IBM failed to do. McNeese of IBM says only that the company "has no indication that the machine has been used for anything other than university research."

And there is the case of Viewlogic Systems Inc. of Marlborough, Mass. According to the Journal of Commerce, Viewlogic shipped computer software for designing printed circuit boards to an Indian missile manufacturer on the very day that President Clinton announced sanctions against India for its five nuclear weapon tests.

The Commerce Department approved the sale, despite the fact that the buyer was Bharat Dynamics Ltd. (BDL), a leading entry on the British government's list of Indian missile makers. BDL manufactures and assembles India's single-stage Prithvi missile, which can deliver a nuclear payload about 150 miles, and the two-stage Agni, which can deliver one about 1,500 miles. Both threaten Pakistan's major cities.

With better electronic circuits, BDL's nuclear missiles will be more accurate and reliable. The same is true of the antitank and other guided missiles that BDL makes, and advertises in a public catalogue.

How the Commerce Department could approve a sale to India's main missile assembly site remains a mystery. Both Viewlogic and the Commerce Department decline to comment on the sale. This misguided policy of helping India develop missiles is not new. In 1963, the United States began India's missile program by launching a U.S. rocket from India's new Thumba Range, which the United States helped design. Despite his recent claim to being "indigenous," A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, the "father" of the Indian bomb, spent four months in training in the United States. After visiting NASA's Wallops Flight Facility on the Virginia coast, where he saw the U.S. Scout space rocket in action, he returned to India to build a copy.

The U.S. government obligingly supplied data on the Scout's design after a request from the Indian Atomic Energy Commission.The Scout's first-stage rocket is identical to the first stage of India's longest-range missile, the Agni.

Virtually every element of India's nuclear and missile programs has been imported directly or copied from imported designs. The Agni's second-stage rocket motor is derived from a Russian-supplied surface-to-air missile and the Agni's guidance system was developed with help from Germany's space agency.

The story in Pakistan is similar. In 1962, NASA launched Pakistan's first rocket, a U.S.-made Nike-Cajun, in a project led by Tariq Mustafa, the senior scientific officer of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. NASA also trained Pakistani rocket scientists at Wallops Island. The Pakistanis were there at the same time as the Indians. Other NASA-sponsored launches followed until 1970. China stepped in later to supply Pakistan's need for bigger missiles, but Uncle Sam launched Pakistan's missile program just as he did India's.

Sanctions will stop at least some of the exports from the United States. Because of the recent nuclear tests, U.S. law now bars the sale to India or Pakistan of any "goods and technology" controlled by the Commerce Department. Although the White House was quick to apply financial sanctions, it is still deciding how to interpret this export prohibition. It could cost big exporting companies real money. The companies are already lining up to limit the sanctions as much as they can.

On May 14, the Industry Coalition on Technology Transfer, the exporters' main lobbying group, wrote to the White House urging that the sanctions be confined to nuclear-related items. They hope the White House will decide that missile-related and chemical weapon-related items will still be free for export. They also requested that they be allowed to sell spare parts and service for U.S. products already in place -- such as the DEC and IBM computers. The exporters seem content to watch India and Pakistan build nuclear missiles with American technology.

The administration is now considering three options. The first is to forbid any item controlled for export to be sold to anyone in India or Pakistan -- no one could buy a military-related item or any item that could help make nuclear weapons, chemical/biological weapons or missiles. Only 1 percent of U.S. sales to India are now controlled for export, so this option would be effective and painless.

The second option is to deny the nuclear and missile items to everybody, but allow private companies in India and Pakistan to buy only conventional military and chemical/biological items. The third option would allow the two governments to buy such items as well. These latter two options would undermine the integrity of the legislation passed by Congress.

What will the president decide? The pro-trade and pro-India forces are leaning on him, and he is bending. He has already hinted that he would be satisfied if India merely promised to sign the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and to cap its production of nuclear weapon material.
 
oh is it imported. I thought you are saying it is copied.

I guess it is high time to fix yourself.

Oh I see, so you are still in state of denial. quickly go and fix your misconceptions about Indian missile projects being "indigenous" by reading and learning the 12 pages.
 
They even claimed there were WMDs in Iraq. What happened did anybody find any WMDs there? Mate its only a propoganda machine nothing more than that...

You mean propaganda?
Its very evident that Sadam "Iraq" did have WMDs but the US government over exaggerated to pave their way for Iraq invasion.
:rofl: For god sake, Wisconsin Project did not convince US to attack Iraq.
Wisconsin Project on Iraq WMDWell before Operation Desert Storm or the U.N. inspections that followed it, Iraq had already begun to build chemical weapons. After launching a research effort in the 1970s, Iraq was able to use chemical weapons in its war against Iran and to kill large numbers of its own Kurdish population in the 1980s. During the first Gulf War, there were fears that Iraq would launch chemical-tipped missiles at its neighbors, particularly Israel, but Iraq refrained for fear of U.S. retaliation. During Operation Iraqi Freedom, coalition troops again feared they might be hit with chemical weapons, though this did not come to pass.
 
How U.S. Exports Helped Fuel the South Asian Arms Race

India and Pakistan, fresh from testing nuclear devices, are poised to build missiles that could deliver the bomb deep into each other's territory. The United States deplores these developments, but along with other countries, stands guilty of supplying much of the necessary technology.

In fact, India's next generation of nuclear missiles will probably be designed with the help of American-made equipment.

U.S. officials say that in 1996, Digital Equipment Corp. shipped a supercomputer to the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, a key missile research site. Supercomputers are the most powerful tools known for designing nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them. They can model the thrust of a rocket, calculate the heat and pressure on a warhead entering the Earth's atmosphere and simulate virtually every other force affecting a missile from launch to impact. Because of the billions of computations needed to solve these problems, a supercomputer's speed is invaluable for efficiently finding design solutions.

The DEC computer will come in handy at the Indian Institute of Science. The institute is on the British government's official list of organizations that procure goods and technology for India's missile programs. It develops India's most advanced rocket propellants, guidance systems and nose cones. Its wind tunnels and other equipment analyze rocket fuel combustion and flight performance. It has even been linked in published reports to India's new nuclear-capable missile called the "Sagarika," intended to be launched from submarines.

International Business Machines Corp. supplied the institute with an even more powerful supercomputer. According to IBM spokesman Fred McNeese, IBM installed the supercomputer at the institute's Supercomputing Education and Research Center, which specializes in computer-aided design. The machine operated at 1.4 billion operations per second when installed in 1994, and IBM upgraded it in March 1997 to perform 3.2 billion operations per second and again in June 1997 to 5.8 billion, making it one of the most powerful computers in India.

The pro-export Commerce Department granted a license for the DEC sale, despite the notoriety of the institute as a missile site. Commerce also licensed the original installation by IBM, but IBM performed the upgrades without a license, in apparent violation of the law.

This week, the U.S. Customs Service opened an investigation into the IBM upgrades. It is already investigating IBM for selling a supercomputer to Russia's leading nuclear weapons lab under similar circumstances.

The U.S. government requires an American company to obtain an export license if it wants to sell to a bomb-prone nation like India a computer that performs more than 2 billion operations per second. IBM claimed an exception, that allows such computers to be shipped as long as the buyer is not connected to nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, missile or military work. The seller must ensure that the exception applies, which IBM failed to do. McNeese of IBM says only that the company "has no indication that the machine has been used for anything other than university research."

And there is the case of Viewlogic Systems Inc. of Marlborough, Mass. According to the Journal of Commerce, Viewlogic shipped computer software for designing printed circuit boards to an Indian missile manufacturer on the very day that President Clinton announced sanctions against India for its five nuclear weapon tests.

The Commerce Department approved the sale, despite the fact that the buyer was Bharat Dynamics Ltd. (BDL), a leading entry on the British government's list of Indian missile makers. BDL manufactures and assembles India's single-stage Prithvi missile, which can deliver a nuclear payload about 150 miles, and the two-stage Agni, which can deliver one about 1,500 miles. Both threaten Pakistan's major cities.

With better electronic circuits, BDL's nuclear missiles will be more accurate and reliable. The same is true of the antitank and other guided missiles that BDL makes, and advertises in a public catalogue.

How the Commerce Department could approve a sale to India's main missile assembly site remains a mystery. Both Viewlogic and the Commerce Department decline to comment on the sale. This misguided policy of helping India develop missiles is not new. In 1963, the United States began India's missile program by launching a U.S. rocket from India's new Thumba Range, which the United States helped design. Despite his recent claim to being "indigenous," A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, the "father" of the Indian bomb, spent four months in training in the United States. After visiting NASA's Wallops Flight Facility on the Virginia coast, where he saw the U.S. Scout space rocket in action, he returned to India to build a copy.

The U.S. government obligingly supplied data on the Scout's design after a request from the Indian Atomic Energy Commission.The Scout's first-stage rocket is identical to the first stage of India's longest-range missile, the Agni.

Virtually every element of India's nuclear and missile programs has been imported directly or copied from imported designs. The Agni's second-stage rocket motor is derived from a Russian-supplied surface-to-air missile and the Agni's guidance system was developed with help from Germany's space agency.

The story in Pakistan is similar. In 1962, NASA launched Pakistan's first rocket, a U.S.-made Nike-Cajun, in a project led by Tariq Mustafa, the senior scientific officer of the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. NASA also trained Pakistani rocket scientists at Wallops Island. The Pakistanis were there at the same time as the Indians. Other NASA-sponsored launches followed until 1970. China stepped in later to supply Pakistan's need for bigger missiles, but Uncle Sam launched Pakistan's missile program just as he did India's.

Sanctions will stop at least some of the exports from the United States. Because of the recent nuclear tests, U.S. law now bars the sale to India or Pakistan of any "goods and technology" controlled by the Commerce Department. Although the White House was quick to apply financial sanctions, it is still deciding how to interpret this export prohibition. It could cost big exporting companies real money. The companies are already lining up to limit the sanctions as much as they can.

On May 14, the Industry Coalition on Technology Transfer, the exporters' main lobbying group, wrote to the White House urging that the sanctions be confined to nuclear-related items. They hope the White House will decide that missile-related and chemical weapon-related items will still be free for export. They also requested that they be allowed to sell spare parts and service for U.S. products already in place -- such as the DEC and IBM computers. The exporters seem content to watch India and Pakistan build nuclear missiles with American technology.

The administration is now considering three options. The first is to forbid any item controlled for export to be sold to anyone in India or Pakistan -- no one could buy a military-related item or any item that could help make nuclear weapons, chemical/biological weapons or missiles. Only 1 percent of U.S. sales to India are now controlled for export, so this option would be effective and painless.

The second option is to deny the nuclear and missile items to everybody, but allow private companies in India and Pakistan to buy only conventional military and chemical/biological items. The third option would allow the two governments to buy such items as well. These latter two options would undermine the integrity of the legislation passed by Congress.

What will the president decide? The pro-trade and pro-India forces are leaning on him, and he is bending. He has already hinted that he would be satisfied if India merely promised to sign the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty and to cap its production of nuclear weapon material.

This article is just BS! India had supercomputer since 1991

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Parallel Computing Hardware

India's First Supercomputer was PARAM 8000. PARAM stood for Parallel Machine. The computer was developed by the government run Center for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC) in 1991. The PARAM 8000 was introduced in 1991 with a rating of 1 Gigaflop (billion floating point operations per second).

Furthermore
Vijay P. Bhatkar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Launched Indian national initiative in Supercomputing. Creation of C-DAC. Design, Development and Delivery of PARAM 8000 in 1991 & PARAM 10000 in 1998. India becomes world’s third nation to develop supercomputers. PARAM Supercomputers exported to Russia, Singapore, Germany and Canada.

BBC NEWS | South Asia | India unveils huge supercomputer

India has launched an advanced supercomputer known as Param Padma.

The move places India in a leading position in the field of supercomputing, normally led by the US and Japan.

There are plans to market the supercomputer internationally and build on existing markets in Europe, North America and the Far East.

India began developing supercomputers in the late 1980s after being refused one by the US.

Arun Shourie, the information technology minister, said the development of the Param Padma at the Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-DAC) showed India's technological capabilities.

Huge power

The advanced supercomputer was launched in the southern city of Bangalore on Tuesday.

The Param Padma has 1 teraflop of power, which means it can make 1 trillion processes per second.

Computer technology is one of India's fastest growing industries
Such power has previously only been available to countries such as the USA and Japan.

Mr Shourie, said there was a great sense of pride that the Param Padma had been developed locally at the C-DAC.

The Param Padma has been developed at a cost of $10 million and has a storage capacity of 5 terabytes which can be increased to 22 terabytes.

Mr Shourie added: "The development of Param Padma would address India's security concerns enhancing the security preparedness.

"It could also be used for defence and space applications."

The thrust of India's supercomputing work, however, will be in areas such as bio-technology, nanotechnology, weather forecasting, climate modelling, seismic data processing and structural mechanics.

Increasing market

Professor N Balakrishnan of the Indian Institute of Science said the Param Padma had put India into a leading position in supercomputing in the world.

India plans to market the Param Padma internationally and officials predict that the domestic market for supercomputers will triple from $0.5 billion to $1.6 billion by 2006.

India's earlier version of the supercomputer 'Param 10,000' with 100 gigaflop (floating point operations per second) memory has been sold to 8 countries including Russia, Canada, Singapore, and Germany.

India began developing a supercomputer after being denied a Cray supercomputer by the United States in 1987.

The US decision was based on fears that it could be used for military purposes.

India was not shipped with supercomputer in FBU (Fully build unit). India developed its architecture and operating system and , as you can see, it was even exported to other countries.

What author mentioned as super computer is simply CPU's which just form a part of supercomputer and is as vague as oil can be used as fuel for tank.

Moreover, Supercomputer in itself doesn't represent foreign assistance to Indian missile program. It's like saying curbing export on Engineering Drawing tools like Scale, Compass,Drafter,A4 sheets as it can be used to architect a missile. What you do, how you do missile designing with it is another sphere of application and requires extensive programming skills.

A supercomputer doesn't come factory tuned/preloaded with Operating system like windows that you power on and start missile, nuclear development from the start. And here we are talking about components of supercomputer not even with a architecture
 
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Growler is showing signs of fatigue. First exact copy, then not exact copy and now to imported. No point in arguing with this wolf. Quite understandable his Pakistani pride will not let him give up. His arguements on GSLV launch failure fell flat as this one. He thinks that if Pakistan can not make anything indigenous India too can not. Illogical way of thinking which reflects in his posts. We Indians should let him have his pride and not argue. :cheers:
 
Exactly. The point here is to demonstrate that without the original platform J-7E wont exist however is not a exact copy of Mig-21F and same applies for SLV-3 which is based on Scout design.
Except that SLV-3 didn’t have any original platform, the likes of F-7. SLV-3 itself was the original platform on which ASLV, PSLV and later GSLV were based. Your claim that Scout is to SLV-3 what F-7 is to F-7E is a non starter. However if you had claimed that Scout is to SLV-3 what MiG-21F is to F-7 then you would have probably got somewhere.
You can not compare technical advantage of Mig-21 bison with Mig-21F and F-16 block 60 with block 1. However the point remains the same, without the original development neither of the latest model or upgraded Mig-21 Bison and F-16 block 60 would exist.
And you are obfuscating, now that your analogy has fallen flat. I compared the technical growth path not the technical ‘advantage’. What your blinkers are not letting you see is that SLV-3 _is_ the original development, as in 1st in a series of development, on which the later models of SLVs were designed. Nothing ever preceded SLV-3. Everything succeeded it. In a sense, SLV-3 _is_ the equivalent of MiG-21F or F-16 Block 1, not F-7E, which was itself an evolved product, like PSLV. Even MiG-21Fs and Block 1, F-16s came into existence riding on a huge knowledge base of designing and building fighter jets.
A little modification to the original Scout Missile design does not change the fact SLV-3 is based on Scout design. And then I have already shown the prove that SLV-3 internal systems are based on foreigner technologies most French and German origin. And my point here is to raise the fact that SLV-3 is not indian "indigenous" R&D and designed product.
Just because something is based on some design concept it doesn’t make it a ‘copy’. The concept of sedan originated at some point, in some place. That doesn’t mean all sedans are copies.

Anyway, it is this constant quantification of degree of indigenous contribution to SLV-3 that I am constantly questioning. How did you know that the modification was ‘little’ as opposed to ‘massive’? For example, you claim that the internal systems are _based_ on European tech. That itself appears to be a ‘massive’ departure from design, unless of course the same European tech was used for Scout. Why don’t you share that information with us and we can all call it a day.

You are correct though. SLV-3 is not a result of ‘indigenous’ R & D. The Indian scientists just bought foreign tech, threw them into a magic hat, waved a magic wand, sprinkled some magical stardust, murmured ‘Abracadabra’ and voila, out came the launch vehicle, ready to be fired.
So if SLV-3 was a "indigenous" indian design then why would India be interested so deeply in Scout Missile program and later produce a missile that was the carbon copy of Scout?
First, a few corrections. Scout that India studied was not a ‘missile program’. It was a satellite launch program. Second, no Indian missile is a ‘copy’ of any foreign missile or satellite launch program. Unlike Pakistan.

Now why did Indian’s show interest in Scout. For the same reason as all other countries, including Pakistan, studied Scout - to educate themselves and build a knowledge base so as to give a direction to the indigenous effort to build satellite launch vehicle. The intent and the process was the same as your intent and process of learning from your books and professors or through practical projects in your college lab.

Soon afterward, in 1965, the Indian government asked NASA how much it would cost and how long it would take to develop an Indian version of the Scout, and whether the United States would help. NASA replied that the Scout was "available for purchase in connection with scientific research," but warned that "transfer of this technology would be a matter for determination by the Department of State under Munitions Control."
Other than the fact that India wanted to develop a launch vehicle that performed like Scout and hence sought help from the developers of Scout, this proves what? The part that you have deliberately kept unquoted is:

‘NASA nevertheless sent India technical reports on the Scout's design, which was unclassified’

Even Pentagon report claims that only unclassified ‘technical reports’ were transferred. If these reports entailed detailed designs and technology, why call it ‘reports’ in the first place? Also the data that, for argument’s sake, may have leaked out through these technical reports would have been available to all and sundry given that the ‘reports’ were unclassified ones. I can’t guess how much of crucial technical data was unclassified, but it appears that NASA didn’t pass any specific technical ‘designs’ to India that wouldn’t be accessible to any other country. In a way, that India was able to ‘copy’(sic) such information trickle, and build out of it a full fledged successful satellite launch vehicle, probably speaks volumes about Indian scientists.
Wrong! Simply the engines and components that you are talking about would have not existed simply because of foreigner R&D.
When you make a pompous claim such as that, it then becomes your responsibility to prove the degree of foreign involvement in development of those tech, and also that the Indian scientists wouldn’t have been able to make such engines and components without such degree of foreign involvement.

Yes its a fact that had their not been 4 stage Scout their would be no SLV-3 with foreigner technologies.
Again, it is now your responsibility to prove that the design of SLV-3 is so heavily borrowed from Scout, that had there been no Scout there wouldn’t have been any SLV-3. I have been asking you to provide such information for the last few days. Can you please share just how much of the design of SLV-3 was borrowed, or to use you favorite word, ‘copied’ from Scout. We all eagerly await your technical evaluation and revelation.

Btw, there was a 5 stage Scout as well.
You are basically coming up with different angles no need to reply any further when your claim has already been refuted.
I am sure that you have refuted me a thousand times, in your imagination. That is not a problem. The problem is your evasion of a key question. I will ask it once again.

Other than some macro level similarities (the looks, the number of stages, the type of fuel etc.), what is similar between Scout A (that’s the model you wanted to compare to) and SLV-3?
When where? when did i say "100%" copy? stop altering other people's words to suite your ego.
Fortunately for you that post of yours was deleted by your friend. You can drop your pretense now.
 

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