What's new

India Would Love to Return this Aircraft Carrier It Bought from Russia

pakdefender

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Aug 7, 2009
Messages
5,671
Reaction score
-8
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
Another EPIC FAIL for India
------------------------------------

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/r...turn-aircraft-carrier-it-bought-russia-164194

Like a lot of countries, India wants the best weapons it can afford. But ideological and financial concerns mean there are a lot of things it won’t buy from the United States or Europe. That pretty much leaves, well, Russia.

India has been a big buyer of Russian weapons for 50 years. Those haven’t been easy years for New Delhi. India’s defense contracts with Russia have consistently suffered delays and cost overruns. And the resulting hardware doesn’t always work.

Of all India’s Russian procurement woes, none speak more to the dysfunctional relationship between the two countries than the saga of INS Vikramaditya. In the early 2000s, India went shopping for a new aircraft carrier. What followed was a military-industrial nightmare.


In 1988, the Soviet Union commissioned the aircraft carrier Baku. She and her four sisters of the Kiev class represented a unique Soviet design. The front third resembled a heavy cruiser, with 12 giant SS-N-12 anti-ship missiles, up to 192 surface-to-air missiles and two 100-millimeter deck guns. The remaining two-thirds of the ship was basically an aircraft carrier, with an angled flight deck and a hangar.

Baku briefly served in the Soviet navy until the USSR dissolved in 1991. Russia inherited the vessel, renamed her Admiral Gorshkov and kept her on the rolls of the new Russian navy until 1996. After a boiler room explosion, likely due to a lack of maintenance, Admiral Gorshkov went into mothballs.


In the early 2000s, India faced a dilemma. The Indian navy’s only carrier INS Viraat was set to retire in 2007. Carriers help India assert influence over the Indian Ocean—not to mention, they’re status symbols. New Delhi needed to replace Viraat, and fast.

India’s options were limited. The only countries building carriers at the time—the United States, France and Italy—were building ships too big for India’s checkbook. In 2004, India and Russia struck a deal in which India would receive Admiral Gorshkov. The ship herself would be free, but India would pay $974 million dollars to Russia to upgrade her.

It was an ambitious project. At 44,500 tons, Admiral Gorshkov was a huge ship. Already more than a decade old, she had spent eight years languishing in mothballs. Indifference and Russia’s harsh winters are unkind to idle ships.

Russia would transform the vessel from a helicopter carrier with a partial flight deck to an aircraft carrier with a launch ramp and a flight deck just over 900 feet long. She would be capable of supporting 24 MiG-29K fighters and up to 10 Kamov helicopters.

She would have new radars, new boilers for propulsion, new arrester wires for catching landing aircraft and new deck elevators. All 2,700 rooms and compartments—spread out over 22 decks—would be refurbished and new wiring would be laid throughout the ship. The “new” carrier would be named Vikramaditya, after an ancient Indian king.

A real aircraft carrier for less than a billion dollars sounds almost too good to be true. And it was.

In 2007, just a year before delivery, it became clear that Russia’s Sevmash shipyard couldn’t meet the ambitious deadline. Even worse, the yard demanded more than twice as much money—$2.9 billion in total—to complete the job.

The cost of sea trials alone, originally $27 million, ballooned to a fantastic $550 million.

A year later, with the project still in disarray, Sevmash estimated the carrier to be only 49-percent complete. Even more galling, one Sevmash executive suggested that India should pay an additional $2 billion, citing a “market price” of a brand-new carrier at “between $3 billion and $4 billion.”

Sevmash specialized in submarine construction and had never worked on an aircraft carrier before. The ship had been originally built at the Nikolayev Shipyards, which after the breakup of the Soviet Union became part of the Ukraine. The tooling and specialized equipment used to build Admiral Gorshkov was thousands of miles away and now in a foreign country.

Like many contractors, defense or otherwise, Sevmash had its unhappy employer over a barrel. With the job halfway done, and having already dropped $974 million, India could not afford to walk away from the deal. Russia knew it, and was blunt about India’s options. “If India does not pay up, we will keep the aircraft carrier,” one defense ministry official told RIA-Novosti.

‘There will be grave consequences’

By 2009, the project was deadlocked and word was starting to get around the defense industry. Russian arms exports for 2009 totaled $8 billion, and Sevmash’s delays and extortionary tactics weren’t good for the Russian defense industry as a whole.

In July 2009, Russia’s then-president Dmitri Medvedev made a high-profile visit to the Sevmash shipyard. Indian news reported that the carrier was still half-done, meaning that the yard had done virtually no work on the ship for two years as it held out for more money.

Medvedev publicly scolded Sevmash officials. “You need to complete [Vikramaditya] and hand it over our partners,” the visibly irritated president told Sevmash general director Nikolai Kalistratov.

In 2010, the Indian government agreed to more than double the budget for the carrier to $2.2 billion. This was less than the $2.9 billion Sevmash demanded, and much less than Sevmash’s suggested “market price” of $4 billion.

Suddenly, Sevmash magically started working harder—actually, twice as hard—and finished the other half of the upgrades in only three years. Vikramaditya finally entered sea trials in August 2012 and commissioned into the Indian navy in November 2013.

At the commissioning ceremony, Indian Defense Minister AK Anthony expressed relief that the ordeal was over, telling the press that there was a time “when we thought we would never get her.”

Enduring woes

Now that Vikramaditya is finally in service, India’s problems are over, right? Not by a long shot. Incredibly, India has chosen Sevmash to do out-of-warranty work on the ship for the next 20 years.

Keeping Vikramaditya supplied with spare parts will be a major task in itself. Ten Indian contractors helped to build the carrier, but so did more than 200 other contractors in Russia, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Italy, Japan, Finland, France, Norway, Poland, Sweden and the U.K. Some countries, particularly Japan, were likely unaware they were exporting parts for a foreign weapons system.

The ship’s boilers, which provide Vikramaditya with power and propulsion, are a long-term concern. All eight boilers are new. But yard workers discovered defects in them. During her trip from Russia to India, the flattop suffered a boiler breakdown, which Sevmash chalked up to poor-quality Chinese firebricks.

China denied ever exporting the firebricks.

Finally, Vikramaditya lacks active air defenses. The ship has chaff and flare systems to lure away anti-ship missiles, but she doesn’t have any close-in weapons systems like the American Phalanx.

India could install local versions of the Russian AK-630 gun system, but missiles will have to wait until the ship is in drydock again—and that could be up to three years from now. In the meantime, Vikramaditya will have to rely on the new Indian air-defense destroyer INS Kolkata for protection from aircraft and missiles.

As for Sevmash? After the Vikramaditya fiasco, the yard is strangely upbeat about building more carriers … and has identified Brazil as a possible buyer. “Sevmash wants to build aircraft carriers,” said Sergey Novoselov, the yard’s deputy general director.
 
.
USSR constucted four Kiev-class carriers in total. One stayed with Soviet/Russian Navy and was scrapped in 1997. China purchased two of them ― we turned them into a theme park/luxury hotel and a naval museum respectively:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_aircraft_carrier_Kiev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_aircraft_carrier_Minsk

India bought the last one and made it the Vikramaditya. To date India has been the only buyer to think of this '70s party-boat as a serious naval acquisition :)
 
.
I don't like this negativity all the times.

Come on boys, look at the positives. Vikramaditya provides an opportunity for a South Asian nation to sink enemy's aircraft for the first time in history. Wouldn't it be nice to have that milestone achieved by South Asians?
 
.
Looks like 'she' is a money pit. We should use her to our advantage. We should threaten the indians that in case of war we will spare 'her'. She just might prove to be a deterrent...for Pakistan.
 
.
a saturation strike by Mirage V armed with anti ship missiles is enough to sink this indian love boat ...

i hope they deploy her.
 
.
People making fun of aircraft carrier doesnt want to discuss all views.
Just tell me any other aircraft carrier India can buy within this budget?
This carrier ensures that the experience of aircraft carrier operations is not lost while India try to buy another carrier. It was the low cost that made India to buy it.

Just imagine India cant even able to buy small fighters for the past what 15years? Lol.

This aircraft carrier has surved its purpose, it has given india time to develop it's own carrier. Cause there was still budget left to make in I dia. If a carrier was bought from west, it would have been so expensive, and strings attached, no money would have been left to develop another immediately.
 
.
People making fun of aircraft carrier doesnt want to discuss all views.
Just tell me any other aircraft carrier India can buy within this budget?
This carrier ensures that the experience of aircraft carrier operations is not lost while India try to buy another carrier. It was the low cost that made India to buy it.

Just imagine India cant even able to buy small fighters for the past what 15years? Lol.

This aircraft carrier has surved its purpose, it has given india time to develop it's own carrier. Cause there was still budget left to make in I dia. If a carrier was bought from west, it would have been so expensive, and strings attached, no money would have been left to develop another immediately.
Why are you talking sense ?
 
. .
The article is very well written and made me laugh a couple of times. Compliments for the writer.
 
. .
Misery of a country who is not self reliant on their defense industries, it's just the tip of an iceberg.
 
.
USSR constucted four Kiev-class carriers in total. One stayed with Soviet/Russian Navy and was scrapped in 1997. China purchased two of them ― we turned them into a theme park/luxury hotel and a naval museum respectively:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_aircraft_carrier_Kiev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_aircraft_carrier_Minsk

India bought the last one and made it the Vikramaditya. To date India has been the only buyer to think of this '70s party-boat as a serious naval acquisition :)

....The ship’s boilers, which provide Vikramaditya with power and propulsion, are a long-term concern. All eight boilers are new. But yard workers discovered defects in them. During her trip from Russia to India, the flattop suffered a boiler breakdown, which Sevmash chalked up to poor-quality Chinese firebricks......

You sabotaged our aircraft carrier.........:cray:
 
. .
....The ship’s boilers, which provide Vikramaditya with power and propulsion, are a long-term concern. All eight boilers are new. But yard workers discovered defects in them. During her trip from Russia to India, the flattop suffered a boiler breakdown, which Sevmash chalked up to poor-quality Chinese firebricks......

You sabotaged our aircraft carrier.........:cray:
Lol , As stated in the article, we never exported them, besides, how come Chinese carriers are fine.
 
.
Lol , As stated in the article, we never exported them, besides, how come Chinese carriers are fine.

Firebricks quality is very important to boilers, but I think the workmanship to lay the firebrick inside the boiler is even more important. Generally, we do not meet the problem caused by firebrick quality itself, but from quality of laying the brick (improper laying, lacking gap for thermal expansion, etc.)
 
.

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom