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India worried over PLA’s expanding transborder military capabilities

What a joke. :lol:

Again, India was crying that we intruded 20 km into Indian territory for several weeks. And India did not dare to forcibly evict them (which would have been the logical thing to do) because they knew using force might lead to another Sino-Indian war.

Instead, you backed down and granted every concession we asked for. Destroying an entire set of strategic bunkers, halting infrastructure in the region, and cancelling all troop patrols in Chumar.

There is no way around it Janon, India was the one who made concessions, we didn't make any at all. This is obvious to everyone including you.

Your intent here is to try and push the point that "such actions are futile and don't give results". Except that reality is the opposite, your administration is always backing down, such as the threats of "surgical strikes" in retaliation to Mumbai, that never came about.

If you wanted to punish our behaviour, you had several weeks to forcibly evict those Chinese soldiers. But you never did, out of fear (rightfully so) that any use of force, legitimate or not, could have led to another Sino-Indian war. Even though you have no problem shooting "intruders" from Bangladesh and Pakistan, in this case you couldn't.

I have given you enough links quoting the defence ministry as well as armed forces saying that no concessions were given to china. To quote yourself earlier, should I believe them or you?

Straw man references to Mumbai or surgical strikes are all fine. But the point of the discussion, that India made no concessions, has been amply made.
 
I have given you enough links quoting the defence ministry as well as armed forces saying that no concessions were given to china. To quote yourself earlier, should I believe them or you?

Straw man references to Mumbai or surgical strikes are all fine. But the point of the discussion, that India made no concessions, has been amply made.

And I have given Reuters quotes from senior Indian Army officials that say even the "bunker demolition" admitted by your centre was a huge understatement. And even if it wasn't an understatement, it was still a concession.

Any opinions on the last paragraph of my last post?

You guys are very happy to shoot Bangladeshi and Pakistani "intruders" who are only "approaching" the border. So why didn't you forcibly evict the Chinese soldiers 20 km into your territory, despite them being there for several weeks?

Because the stakes are way higher. Is India prepared for all-out war with China? Even your own Army says no.
 
And I have given Reuters quotes from senior Indian Army officials that say even the "bunker demolition" admitted by your centre was a huge understatement. And even if it wasn't an understatement, it was still a concession.

Any opinions on the last paragraph of my last post?

You guys are very happy to shoot Bangladeshi and Pakistani "intruders" who are only "approaching" the border. So why didn't you forcibly evict the Chinese soldiers 20 km into your territory, despite them being there for several weeks?

Because the stakes are way higher. Is India prepared for all-out war with China? Even your own Army says no.

If you want me to state the obvious, I will:

Pakistani and Bangladeshi intruders are not professional soldiers in uniform, they are armed terrorists or other people upto no good. When challenged they open fire, and get shot in return. We have decades of experience of terrorists and infiltrators coming in from Pakistan to cause trouble in India. We don't have similar experience of chinese intruders sneaking into India to do terror strikes. So the reaction is naturally different.

On the other hand, we do have innumerable cases of each sides' soldiers ending up on the other side during routine patrolling. Neither side shoots the other, there is a mechanism in place to signal the other side. In this particular case the Chinese platoon refused to leave. Obviously we do not shoot every Chinese patrol that strays, neither does china.

All this (the difference between the two borders and what goes on in each) is so self evident that I did not think it worth my time to explain.
 
What bullsh*t. :rofl:

China has not had bloodshed on our borders for over 30 years. While India has blood on both East (Bangladesh) and West (Pakistan) borders, Hell only a short while back there were multiple be-headings and mutilations of soldiers bodies on India's border. :rolleyes:

As for the Ladakh incident:

India was crying that Chinese troops were 20 km inside Indian territory for several weeks, and the whole Indian nation went into a panic of self-flagellation, crying that they could not beat China, all over their media.

End result? India backs down, not only destroying an entire set of bunkers, but also halting all infrastructure work in the region, and cancelling all troop patrols.

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India


Please don't talk about bloodshed, coz then some dude will bring in Tibet and you'll get pissy and so on and so forth.

LOL there aren't supposed to be any permanent structures along LAC anyway we abandoned which wasn't our to begin with.
China did no coaxing at all, all they did was go on the defensive and called off their troops for a border arrangement that we "allegedly" violated.
 
Please don't talk about bloodshed, coz then some dude will bring in Tibet and you'll get pissy and so on and so forth.

LOL there aren't supposed to be any permanent structures along LAC anyway we abandoned which wasn't our to begin with.
China did no coaxing at all, all they did was go on the defensive and called off their troops for a border arrangement that we "allegedly" violated.

They forced us, we made JAPAN ally and okayed 40000 more troopers. These guys don't see India as a threat critically now but around 2022 - 25 when undoubtedly like China our Defense Industrial Base will mature like theirs.

Check our ships and theirs. Doctrine speaks for itself. Hence they resolve to such bullshit.
 

India: Zero. :lol:

Indian troops suspend patrols at Chumar - Times Of India

NEW DELHI: Apart from dismantling a SET of strategically-located bunkers at Chumar as part of an arrangement to end the standoff at Depsang Bulge in eastern Ladakh, the Indian troops seem to have suspended patrols to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Chumar, at least for now. Senior officials briefed by personnel on the ground said the Army has discontinued the round-the-clock patrolling it was undertaking in the area for the last few months.
 
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