India willing to sell gas to Pakistan

[Lord ZeN]

Yes we will

How exactly ?

 

[Indian Patriot]

Such a pipeline deal is never gonna happen. Our only way is to go under the sea.

Our only way is to come up with synthetic fuel J/K.

India needs to get aggressive. Relations with US is fine but India's own interests come first. The US don't consult us when they sell F-16 to Pakistan, why should we consult them if we buy gas from Iran? India needs to explore in the country as well as overseas. India rarely wins any bids for overseas exploration. These sarkari babus need to be kicked out and professional entrepreneurs need to be hired.

On a side note the Modi Govt. initiatives for solar power and alternate-energy schemes are a welcome move.

 

[45'22']

Business and earning is fine. But we have an energy deficit in our own country, what about that?

Countries usually make a business by exporting minerals, products they have a surplus of. How would it sound to you if Saudi Arabia buys coal from India to sell in Middle East?

Pakistan is already in talks with Iran over gas pipeline and they have closer contacts with SA and other Islamic states. What possible gains can Indian have by doing a deal like this?



I mean this whole thing sounds so ridiculous you are tempted to laugh.

Iran had proposed a gas pipeline project, a MASSIVE one in all scales, which will connect Iran-Pakistan-India. THAT deal if finalised would have taken care of almost every energy need of the country. India backed out for two obvious reasons. American pressure, they had issues with Iran and offered nuclear deal and the other being Pakistan. Indian think tanks were nervous about Indian energy needs coming through Pakistan and held hostage - much like NATO trucks.

Now when all is said and done we have this drama.



This proposal has all the makings of a major loss.

Did the idiots in the bureaucracy who came up with this proposal study MBA from IIN?

Such deals are important for economy
We are not neglecting our needs
we are working on that also simultaneously

 

[Indian Patriot]

Such deals are important for economy
We are not neglecting our needs
we are working on that also simultaneously

How is it important for our economy? What is the market size of Pakistan and how much of that market is/will be dominated by India?

We are exporting a product which we do not have and are in dire need ourselves. I can understand if India is exporting coal. Even if there is a coal scarcity at least India has its own coal reserves. How many oil and gas reserves do we have?

This whole concept of importing gas and selling it to Pakistan is ridiculous. Is India going to give subsidy, and what is stopping Pakistan from importing gas from Iran or other gulf country?

 

[Lord ZeN]

India needs to get aggressive. Relations with US is fine but India's own interests come first. The US don't consult us when they sell F-16 to Pakistan, why should we consult them if we buy gas from Iran? India needs to explore in the country as well as overseas. India rarely wins any bids for overseas exploration. These sarkari babus need to be kicked out and professional entrepreneurs need to be hired.

You do realize that IPI pipe line is gonna go through Pakistani territory and they are in no mood to allow it. Even if they are gonna allow it , it certainly would come with a heavy price. It's not just American pressure.

 

[Indian Patriot]

You do realize that IPI pipe line is gonna go through Pakistani territory and they are in no mood to allow it. Even if they are gonna allow it , it certainly would come with a heavy price. It's not just American pressure.

That's what I mentioned in my previous post. I had said it was a combination of American pressure and Indian fears. You quoted the wrong post. And yes, allowing pipeline through Pakistan will give Indian policy makers sleepless nights.

 

[Lord ZeN]

That's what I mentioned in my previous post. I had said it was a combination of American pressure and Indian fears. You quoted the wrong post. And yes, allowing pipeline through Pakistan will give Indian policy makers sleepless nights

So why should Pakistan actually allow a pipe line to India. Why not restrict it to just Pak-Iran pipeline.

 

[sathya]

India has some serious energy concerns of its own, not as dire as some other countries but energy security for India is a very pressing concern.

India is not Qatar or Saudi Arabia, countries which sit upon oceans of crude oil. The financial benefits, if any, of importing crude oil and selling gas to neighboring countries is stupid to say the least.

Gas prices affect the entire economy. Goods and commodities are moved across the country on vehicles. The higher the cost of fuel, higher the cost of transportation and as a result higher the cost of commodities that are moved across. It is simple logic which every Indian is aware of since childhood.

india will earn a rupee or two with each litre sold, not more like middle east..
it only means we have more refining capacity.. not more oil..

 

[Indian Patriot]

So why should Pakistan actually allow a pipe line to India. Why not restrict it to just Pak-Iran pipeline.

You obviously missed 1 post of mine that's why you are getting confused.

It was Iran who came up with the proposal. Both India and Pakistan have an energy deficit. India was critical because of a simple reason - money. India was the main customer for Iran. Iran even went so far as to suggest that they will ensure Pakistan guarantees uninterrupted supply. India was not convinced.

If not pipeline then India needs to invest in oil tankers and in lots and lots of them.

 

[livingdead]

good... well done banias...

 

[Indian Patriot]

india will earn a rupee or two with each litre sold, not more like middle east..
it only means we have more refining capacity.. not more oil..

That begs the question how much litres will we sell? And why is the cost cheaper for India. Is it currency exchange rates or for some extremely dubious reasons we are willing to subsidise costs?

 

[Lord ZeN]

You obviously missed 1 post of mine that's why you are getting confused.
It was Iran who came up with the proposal. Both India and Pakistan have an energy deficit. India was critical because of a simple reason - money. India was the main customer for Iran. Iran even went so far as to suggest that they will ensure Pakistan guarantees uninterrupted supply. India was not convinced.
If not pipeline then India needs to invest in oil tankers and in lots and lots of them.

All i'm trying to say is Pakistan is gonna block every proposal they see beneficial for India even if they're going to suffer from it.. Now you see there was earlier a news article on what H.S & Co said about the pipeline and trade with India. The main reason for these pipeline deals not seeing the day of light was never the American pressure but Pak commitment to see India not progressing economically.

 

[East or West India Best]

We are such generous people,

 

[Indian Patriot]

All i'm trying to say is Pakistan is gonna block every proposal they see beneficial for India even if they're going to suffer from it.. Now you see there was earlier a news article on what H.S & Co said about the pipeline and trade with India. The main reason for these pipeline deals not seeing the day of light was never the American pressure but Pak commitment to see India not progressing economically.

That is an old truth. On a lighter note just see the reaction of Pakistanis on India's WC exit.

But if we need oil, we need oil. If not pipeline then use anything from airline to oil tanker. Just import crude and gas by the tonnes.

 

[Srinivas]

When Indians are allowed to come here to post and interact ,give their opinions, why not Indians sell gas to Pakistan and get profits?

nonsense and hypocrisy !