"India will break-up like Russia"-Raut

[Baibars_1260]

We had a chance before 1971. But our regime had a lack of vision- "defence of east lies in the west" doctrine. The chicken's neck is 17 kms thin. Very easy to cut it off.

Unfortunately, Northeast, Kashmir and even East Punjab are thinly populated. They can't offer much resistance to India by themselves unless a power like China is backing.

Punjab is a crucial state completely polarized by Sikh sub-nationalism.
No matter which Party is in power in Punjab it has to appease Sikh sentiments that are completely alienated from the central seat of power. Even the Punjab Congress Party in power had to bend over to the Sikh sentiments on the Kartarpur corridor question. It is astounding that a once powerful national party that lost the most powerful prime minister India ever had to Sikh assassins now is lauding the families of those very assassins dubbed as martyrs. The state dare not execute or even imprison Rajaona, a co-conspirator who was charged and convicted of the murder of the Punjab Chief Minister Beant Singh.
The families of the assassins of Indian COAS General A. S. Vaidya are getting state subsidy as kin of "martyrs".
Anti-Muslim Hindutva largely works in the Hindu heartland of BIMARU ( Bihar, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and UP) . Maharashtra was a special case for Anti-Muslim ( synonymous with Anti-Pakistani ) hysteria but those sentiments are dormant at this time.
Pakistan should modify the following stances to appease Maratha sentiments ( and it already has on most counts).

1. Drop the demand for Jinnah House on Malabar Hill for use as a consulate.
2. Drop the plans for consulate in Mumbai.
3. Drop plans for resuming PIA flights from Mumbai to Karachi and not request reopening the PIA office there.
4. Prevent Pakistani entertainment industry workers such as actors, singers, musicians, lyricists from going to Mumbai to work in the industry there.
5. Drop plans to play one day or test cricket in Mumbai or elsewhere in the state even if in the remote future the respective Cricket Boards agree.

Pakistan has implemented all the above except No. 5 which it should do immediately by a public announcement.
This will hugely enhance the Shiv Sena's prestige in the state and take the "patriotic " wind out of the BJP's sails

 

[Hindustani78]

I believe this person has little to no knowledge on making the distinction between Russia and the Soviet Union. Ah well, ignorance proliferates unabated!

Ruslan Provodnikov , Good Boxer of Rus Federation !!!

Ruslan , Arsalan very Good Name !!! Does anyone knows the Origins ???

 

[Baibars_1260]

Pakistan should accelerate this process. I am not in favor of genocide and extermination of any religion, but India is the reason why Pakistan has an abnormal social and economic structure. If India gets divided into many states, then Pakistan can also walk in right direction.
When India divides, Pakistan should refrain from occupying any space from resulting states, as this will start the same cycles as what was started by external invaders in India.
Jo jahan hai, woh wahin rahy, apny kherchy pe.

Pakistan first !
The genocide of Muslims will happen in most of India regardless.

But once the genocide is complete then other forces automatically take over. Punjab in India is a case in point. The Muslims in Punjab were completely cleansed out in 1947 ( except for one tiny pocket of Malerkotla). With the Muslims gone as a common enemy linguistic, and religious tensions arose within the Sikh Hindu , Jat and Himachali communities.
It was not long before the Punjabi Suba ( read Sikh majority movement) further trisected the state into Haryana, Punjab, and Himachal. The original Punjab, a huge state stretching from the plains of the Ravi to the Shivalik mountains was reduced to a rump state which shares its capital with Haryana.
Similarly the state of Hyderabad is split between Andhra and Telengana where even a minute linguistic and cultural difference of a Telugu speaking population has resulted in violence and separation.
It is significant that Andhra threatened to revive its provisional seat in the UN General Assembly once held by the Nizam Hyderabad state.
Tamil subculture is once again openly hostile to Hindi speaking "Delhi influence " regardless of which faction of the DMK is in power. Like Punjab which honors the assassins of Indira Gandhi the assassins of her son Rajeev Gandhi are martyrs and heroes in Tamil Nadu.

Ruslan Provodnikov , Good Boxer of Rus Federation !!!

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Ruslan , Arsalan very Good Name !!! Does anyone knows the Origins ???

They teach you well at the RSS IT cell in Keshav Kunj.
Trolling.

1. Divert the narrative.
2. Swamp the thread
3. Provoke an unrelated response
4. Don't answer uncomfortable questions.
5. Open as many threads as possible to send the uncomfortable threads to the bottom of the list.

Stick to the topic.
You will get your Rs.2 per post anyway.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Russia never broke up. The only region Russia lost was Crimea which they got back by force.

 

[ARMalik]

Well disintegration of India is actually very, very good for the US and some Western Powers ! It sounds very illogical on paper since people think that the West wants to support India against China. But a disintegrated india allows the West to really take hold over the Northern States bordering China where they can launch attacks on China directly. India is NOT comprehending the extremely dangerous game being played against it by the West. If India has even a little IQ, it will sit down with Pakistan and China today, and resolve all issues, and make peace. But they are so dumb that they will be blown into pieces before they realise the game that was played with them.

 

[Nasr]

Ruslan Provodnikov , Good Boxer of Rus Federation !!!

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Ruslan , Arsalan very Good Name !!! Does anyone knows the Origins ???

Non lo so!

 

[Baibars_1260]

A wonderful article below for Pakistanis to get a primer on what's happening in India's richest state.

"The 2019 election results proved that the BJP cannot form a government on its own or with the help of independents. Meanwhile, Uddhav Thackeray surprised the BJP by joining hands with the NCP and the Congress. It was a masterstroke by Sharad Pawar that brought the Shiv Sena, NCP and Congress into an alliance."

Marathi nationalism to Hindutva: Shiv Sena's rise over 50 years

Shiv Sena — the words carry different meanings for different audiences; not only outside Maharashtra, but also in various districts of the state.

thefederal.com

 

[Sharma Ji]

But the Bangladeshi Muslim migrant hysteria was disproven when it turned out that the majority of the CAA victims were Dharmics.

There is a need for immigration enforcement here, but yeah they botched the rollout. That program's on hold now, ostensibly due to the pandemic but it was a bad look for the Modi prashasan. Quite heartening to see a bit of muslim outreach by the PM lately. 200 million should be a source of strength for India, it was self defeating to try and marginalize them. Mistake corrected and in the process of being corrected.

Lol.

Modi ek baar phir (or as you call it- fir)!!!

Is it actually pronounced phir in Urdu ?

Anyway, all the mocking from you guys aside, they're going really strong, the BJP. All eyes on Bengal, defections from the TMC, and they made impressive gains in the last general. WB has become a bellwether and leading indicator for gauging the strength of the BJP.

Don't lol, ye lol waali galti na karo !

 

[Baibars_1260]

Non lo so!

That RSS IT troll is trying to divert the topic. Make the RSS trolls stick to the topic.

Important aspects:
The top leadership of the RSS has always been in the hands of Chitpawan or Saraswat Brahmins who are themselves Marathas.
Questions:
So how does Brahmin Maratha identity play out?
Why must the RSS always be led by Marathi speaking Brahmins when the spiritual seat of Hinduism lies further North in UP, Bihar and Nepal.
Why for example are Hindi Sanskrit speaking RSS stalwarts such as Yogi Adiyanath, Rajendra Singh, and Sakshi Maharaj who represent the vast majority of Hindus in the heartland not find a place in the RSS?
Why must Mohan Bhagwat address the nation on the Dussehra during the Durga Puja in October in imperfect Marathi accented Hindi rather than Sanskrit which Yogi Adityanath could have done much better?
Why doesn't the Shiv Sena take the religious lead, and address the Marathis on Durga Puja in Marathi just as it does on Gudi Padwa?

Will leave the answers to Hindustani and Indian PDFerrs.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Pakistan first !
The genocide of Muslims will happen in most of India regardless.

But once the genocide is complete then other forces automatically take over. Punjab in India is a case in point. The Muslims in Punjab were completely cleansed out in 1947 ( except for one tiny pocket of Malerkotla). With the Muslims gone as a common enemy linguistic, and religious tensions arose within the Sikh Hindu , Jat and Himachali communities.
It was not long before the Punjabi Suba ( read Sikh majority movement) further trisected the state into Haryana, Punjab, and Himachal. The original Punjab, a huge state stretching from the plains of the Ravi to the Shivalik mountains was reduced to a rump state which shares its capital with Haryana.
Similarly the state of Hyderabad is split between Andhra and Telengana where even a minute linguistic and cultural difference of a Telugu speaking population has resulted in violence and separation.
It is significant that Andhra threatened to revive its provisional seat in the UN General Assembly once held by the Nizam Hyderabad state.
Tamil subculture is once again openly hostile to Hindi speaking "Delhi influence " regardless of which faction of the DMK is in power. Like Punjab which honors the assassins of Indira Gandhi the assassins of her son Rajeev Gandhi are martyrs and heroes in Tamil Nadu.

They teach you well at the RSS IT cell in Keshav Kunj.
Trolling.

1. Divert the narrative.
2. Swamp the thread
3. Provoke an unrelated response
4. Don't answer uncomfortable questions.
5. Open as many threads as possible to send the uncomfortable threads to the bottom of the list.

Stick to the topic.
You will get your Rs.2 per post anyway.

We can easily create 5 to 6 independent states out of India. These states will keep fighting each other till eternity, I know them.
Hamari jan chot jaeygi. Sukh ka sans naseeb hoga.

 

[Baibars_1260]

Well disintegration of India is actually very, very good for the US and some Western Powers ! It sounds very illogical on paper since people think that the West wants to support India against China. But a disintegrated india allows the West to really take hold over the Northern States bordering China where they can launch attacks on China directly. India is NOT comprehending the extremely dangerous game being played against it by the West. If India has even a little IQ, it will sit down with Pakistan and China today, and resolve all issues, and make peace. But they are so dumb that they will be blown into pieces before they realise the game that was played with them.

The Balkanisation of India has long been planned since the time of Churchill and later by Henry Kissinger.

It is good for the West to turn India into a series of rump states, rather than one that can present a geopolitical challenge in the future.
The rump states will allow FDI into goods and services making a vast slave population of keyboard coolies and sporting shoe makers.
The "powers that be" don't like Indian launched satellites anymore than they liked Soviet satellites. Small technology weak countries like Bangladesh sewing zippers onto jackets and made to feel good on social indicators are the way to go.
If Pakistan concentrated only on making Jockey underpants for export instead of K-8 trainer aircraft it would be the darling of the world.
Which is why to sustain the superiority of the West smaller countries are needed.
Secular inclusive democracy and a breakdown of linguistic ethno-religious barriers is not needed.
Secular, inclusive states usually result in the emergence of powerful nation states ( China is an example) which is why in the name of self-determination the most narrow parochial forces have to be encouraged.
But two can play the game.

 

[Cliftonite]

Anyway, all the mocking from you guys aside, they're going really strong, the BJP. All eyes on Bengal, defections from the TMC, and they made impressive gains in the last general. WB has become a bellwether and leading indicator for gauging the strength of the BJP

Probably due to Didi's thuggery. But the gains wouldn't be for long. I'll quote Abul Kalam Azad here that Bengal resents outside meddling. And that statement has pretty much stood the test of time.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Like Russia', country will disintegrate into several states:Sanjay Raut.

Modi will not let this happen. @SrNair, @El Sidd, Sorry Sirs. Couldn't resist tagging experts.

- PRTP GWD

Bengal resents outside meddling.

Bengal resists outside meddling not trade and cultural exchanges.

- PRTP GWD

 

[Baibars_1260]

There is a need for immigration enforcement here, but yeah they botched the rollout. That program's on hold now, ostensibly due to the pandemic but it was a bad look for the Modi prashasan. Quite heartening to see a bit of muslim outreach by the PM lately. 200 million should be a source of strength for India, it was self defeating to try and marginalize them. Mistake corrected and in the process of being corrected.


Is it actually pronounced phir in Urdu ?

Anyway, all the mocking from you guys aside, they're going really strong, the BJP. All eyes on Bengal, defections from the TMC, and they made impressive gains in the last general. WB has become a bellwether and leading indicator for gauging the strength of the BJP.

Don't lol, ye lol waali galti na karo !

@dharmi
So what's the ultimate vision for '20s ( 21st Century) India?
The M. S. Golwalkar model?
For the next yug of 5000 years?

The Congress stood like a behemoth for 30 years until it suffered its first defeat in 1977.

Will India become a homogeneous integrated socially modern secular state like China?

When will the Times of India online matrimonial columns stop issuing advertisements like :
"Wanted bride for NRI Reddikar Brahmin groom, IT engineer, well settled from a reputed family from Guntur... "
Wouldn't the word NRI Hindu be sufficient?
Arn't all Hindus equal?

 

[Cliftonite]

It is good for the West to turn India into a series of rump states, rather than one that can present a geopolitical challenge in the future.

The West has a history of shooting itself in the foot. Nixon propped up China in 1971 to rival Soviets. Now Americans are left picking up the pieces.

They're doing pretty much the same to India but they don't realize their blunder. They're too blinded by propping up India to counter China to realize it will come bite them in the a**

Two superpowers in Asia will make America totally irrelevant.