India, US to sign landmark (COMCASA) military communication deal tomorrow

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1037630401538392064

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/i...-inaugural-22-dialogue-officials-2924381.html

 

[war&peace]

It means no S400

 

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

How Top-Secret US System Will Allow India To Track Chinese Submarines

General Atomics Sea Guardian drone will allow Indian Navy to track movement of Chinese warships

NEW DELHI:
When a US warship or aircraft detects a Chinese warship or submarine, the warships, submarines and aircraft of the Indian Navy operating in the region will get to know instantly about the presence of the Chinese vessels through the transmission of encrypted data shared by the US Navy.

Not only will the Indian Navy get the exact bearing and speed of the Chinese vessels, they may also be able to receive a live video feed of the 'target' as well.

The receivers fitted in Indian Navy assets will be a part of America's Combined Enterprise Regional Information Exchange System or CENTRIXS for short, a system described by the US Navy as a "collection of classified coalition networks" that support combatant commands throughout the world. CENTRIXS is a backbone of secure tactical communication between America's closest military allies, of which India is one.

And the reason New Delhi will now have access to CENTRIXS is because of its decision to sign the Communications Compatibility and Security Agreement (COMCASA), a "foundational agreement" that has the potential of transforming the way in which the intelligence and armed forces of the US and India work together.

In simple terms, this is the next step up for the armed forces of both countries, well beyond the annual set of joint exercises they have been holding for years. From a military technology standpoint, CENTRIXS is one of the systems that enable India and the United States to fight together as military allies in a combat zone since both sides would have access to a common operational picture, a single identical display which shows the position of enemy targets, friendly forces and other critical information which greatly enhances the situational awareness of military commanders.

Indian Navy's fleet of cutting-edge P-8I anti submarine aircraft are already serviced by engineers and specialists from Boeing.

And that's not all that signing COMCASA brings with it.

The armed Sea Guardian drones the Navy is likely to acquire will be fitted with some of the most sophisticated American military hardware -- the Global Positioning Systems and Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) receivers on board will be anti-spoof and invulnerable to attempts to electronically jam or manipulate their signals. Data transmitted by the Very High Frequency (VHF) emitters will be strongly encrypted and the security-key for the encryption systems will be entirely in Indian hands.

Despite the tangible military gains, signing COMCASA has been deeply problematic for the Indian security establishment and talks between New Delhi and Washington have gone on for years. At the heart of New Delhi's concerns is the worry that the secure data transmission systems on board US-provided drones may have a channel which allows the US to monitor their precise movement. At the same time, there have been concerns that annual US inspections of these systems, as mandated by COMCASA, infringes on India's rights as a sovereign nation.

Belatedly, however, both sides have been able to address these concerns amicably. The Indian armed forces have accepted an American explanation that the United States cannot track the real-time movement of drones and aircraft they have provided unless India allows that to happen. The US has made it clear that ground inspections of these systems are required not to snoop on India but only to ensure that some of Washington's most sophisticated military systems have not been tampered with, reverse engineered or shared with any third country.

In fact, the Indian Navy's fleet of cutting-edge P-8 anti-submarine aircraft are already serviced by engineers and specialists from Boeing. Some of the most sensitive communication systems on board, however, were replaced by off-the-shelf systems since India had not signed COMCASA when the P-8s began entering service in December 2012. The Navy operates 8 P-8s with four more on order.

Once they enter service, the Predator Sea Guardian manufactured by General Atomics will transform the Indian Navy's ability to monitor large parts of the Indian Ocean. Capable of flying non-stop for 27 hours at an altitude of 50,000 feet, the Sea Guardian is remotely piloted or can operate fully autonomous missions. Equipped with a multi-mode maritime radar, the drone can engage targets such as enemy ships by firing either Hellfire missiles or smart bombs mounted on its wings.

India's decision to sign COMCASA comes at a time when the United States has voiced its opposition to India's acquisition of the Russian S-400 missile shield since this purchase violates CAATSA or the US Countering America's Adversaries through Sanctions Act, which has recently been passed.

COMMENT
However, New Delhi, while indicating its intention to go forward with COMCASA, has made it clear to Washington that Russia and India have had a historic military equation which cannot be dispensed with.



https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/how...low-india-to-track-chinese-submarines-1912315

 

[Theparadox]

I hope those drones are meant for use. Now S-400 next month

 

[manga]

It means no S400

US Indicates it Will go Easy on India-Russia S-400 Defence Deal Just Hours Before 2+2 Dialogue
https://www.news18.com/amp/news/ind...al-just-hours-before-22-dialogue-1869151.html

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Nothing surprising here. The US/Pak alliance is officially over. The India/US alliance is being minted. Re-alignment in the global order taking place. The good news is the more US reinforces itself with India, Pakistan's position with China becomes more critical.

On a side note much respect to to these two Indian [minister] ladies. First for breaking male dominated positions of power and secondly espousing Gangoo culture by wearing Ganga attire the Saree thus clearly demarcating from Pakistani culture of Shalwar Kameez. In this sense they are following on from Indira Gandhi who always would walk around in pride with wrapped sheet.

 

[Sam.]

Yes. The P-8 will be able to carry both Indian and US comm equipment.



Such agreements will have bipartisan support.

I know but it's not new in Indian political scenario when one party agree to points in closed door and whine in public for brownie points.

BJP and Congress both have done that in past.

 

[Srinivas]

Nothing surprising here. The US/Pak alliance is officially over. The India/US alliance is being minted. Re-alignment in the global order taking place. The good news is the more US reinforces itself with India, Pakistan's position with China becomes more critical.

On a side note much respect to to these two Indian [minister] ladies. First for breaking male dominated positions of power and secondly espousing Gangoo culture by wearing Ganga attire the Saree thus clearly demarcating from Pakistani culture of Shalwar Kameez. In this sense they are following on from Indira Gandhi who always would walk around in pride with wrapped sheet.

what is this then

Pakistan armed forces:

BJP minister Kaur

 

[Indus Pakistan]

what is this then

99% of Pakistan wears Shalwarv Kameez. The figure has been consistent decaded after decade unlike you leaches who only recently have taken to shalwar kameez. You can go back and look at old pictures to confirm this.

The picture you pointed to alludes to the 1947 event when we got lots of migrants from India who wore sarees. And most of the female medical profession was almost all provided from Indian migrants as conservatism and lack of literacy prevailed in the westerly four provinces on the Indus. That appears to have become tradition now within that proffesion.

But your not going to tell me saree is the dress of Pakistan. The saree is Ganga/Banga and Sri Lankan dress.

Ps. If you look at old newsreels from 1960s you will see shalwar kameez being worn by about 95% of the population in Pakistani cities buit look at Mumbai, Kolkatta, Delhi and it's the other way around - 95% saree

 

[ARMalik]

To the Indian members here, make no mistake, US is no ones friend, and this is terrible deal for India. What this means is that where ever these US communication technologies are used in India specially weapons and communication systems of any sort, US would have a back door to all the data. Someone needs to ask Indian government as to why they are doing this?

 

[Sam.]

99% of Pakistan wears Shalwarv Kameez. The figure has been consistent decaded after decade unlike you leaches who only recently have taken to shalwar kameez. You can go back and look at old pictures to confirm this.

The picture you pointed to alludes to the 1947 event when we got lots of migrants from India who wore sarees. And most of the female medical profession was almost all provided from Indian migrants as conservatism and lack of literacy prevailed in the westerly four provinces on the Indus. That appears to have become tradition now within that proffesion.

But your not going to tell me saree is the dress of Pakistan. The saree is Ganga/Banga and Sri Lankan dress.

Ps. If you look at old newsreels from 1960s you will see shalwar kameez being worn by about 95% of the population in Pakistani cities buit look at Mumbai, Kolkatta, Delhi and it's the other way around - 95% saree

Pain is almost real for anyone to see. Don't spread hatred too much old man you will go senile in old age. Find Allah in prayers and be in peace.

 

[RoadRunner401]

When a US warship or aircraft detects a Chinese warship or submarine, the warships, submarines and aircraft of the Indian Navy operating in the region will get to know instantly about the presence of the Chinese vessels through the transmission of encrypted data shared by the US Navy.

Yes, and the Americans will know where the Indian navy is at all times

 

[faithfulguy]

Yes, and the Americans will know where the Indian navy is at all times

At least India realized that it would never stand as an independent country. A servant country that will lost its purpose without a master. So US have pity on India and accept to be India’s new master.

 

[randomradio]

I know but it's not new in Indian political scenario when one party agree to points in closed door and whine in public for brownie points.

BJP and Congress both have done that in past.

Yeah, the Congress is immature enough to do that. We already see it with the Rafale.

To the Indian members here, make no mistake, US is no ones friend, and this is terrible deal for India. What this means is that where ever these US communication technologies are used in India specially weapons and communication systems of any sort, US would have a back door to all the data. Someone needs to ask Indian government as to why they are doing this?

We are signing COMCASA for specific technologies, not for all-round technologies.

Yes, the US will have a backdoor to data generated by their own stuff, but then, we are also willing to share this data with them and more. They are willing to do the same for us. So it's for mutual benefit.

But India's core military equipment will be within the Indian network, and the US will not have access to these systems.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

This will be our strength and our curse.