India, US set to finalise aircraft carrier technology agreement

[The_Sidewinder]

For power hungry E-Malls and keeping future development of carrier based technology it is mandatory.

Agreed. Nuke power is the only option to deploy EMALS.

P.S. Good to see you back buddy

 

[The Great One]

Won't larger reactors be easier to construct than small reactors fitted in a SSBN?

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Since our carrier would be 70,000 Tonns compared to 100,000 Tonnes of Ford class, nearly 250MW output would be enough for us; which would mean 3X Arihant type reactors.

Have a look at this. Maybe there's something we can look at.

"The second thing is that size is cheap. Once you decide to build an aircraft carrier, you get some threshold of fundamental cost, and then to go from a medium-sized nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to a large deck, it's incremental cost, and you get more value for that incremental cost."

This Is What Makes the USS Gerald R. Ford the Best Aircraft Carrier Ever Designed

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Won't larger reactors be easier to construct than small reactors fitted in a SSBN?

Since our carrier would be 70,000 Tonns compared to 100,000 Tonnes of Ford class, nearly 250MW output would be enough for us; which would mean 3X Arihant type reactors.

They have build extra capacity of power generation in Ford Class to suffice for Future Technologies.

160x2MW or 200x2MW will be more then enough for 65k+ carriers.

 

[The Great One]

It was built with Russia's help after India struggled with it for more than a decade taking incremental Russian help due to fear of west. Thats what I meant.

Source/Link/Quote?

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Have a look at this. Maybe there's something for us to look at.

This Is What Makes the USS Gerald R. Ford the Best Aircraft Carrier Ever Designed

You are very much correct here! Once you break Certain Size Barrier, it is beneficial to go for the large size.

 

[kaku1]

It was built with Russia's help after India struggled with it for more than a decade taking incremental Russian help due to fear of west. Thats what I meant.

Struggled for decade?

Check your facts first, Arihant was sanctioned in 1999,
the construction of reactor started in 2003 and goes critical in 2007. How India struggled?

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

190 mW

And the work is going on inside BARC since 2013, expected it go critical by 2018.

Source please!! 190MW PWR for Navy.

 

[The Great One]

first ever carrier with EMALS still under construction in the US. you guys must be out of your mind thinking the yanks offering that technology for sale. lol. not just that, you even dare to think they even give you ToT... wake up and come back down earth

You are very much correct here! Once you break Certain Size Barrier, it is beneficial to go for the large size.

LOL Thats not me but Newport's President. Anyway, 65k+ or 100k+, it cost shit-load of money especially if its a one-off like Vishal 'presently' is. Also Gerard Ford cost US $15 billion so lets not lose our perspective. British junk QE class is 65k ton with no Catapult, no Nuclear reactor and it cost them $8 billion a pop.

 

[kaku1]

Source please!! 190MW PWR for Navy.

Ask from any senior level navy guy, or if you have good contacts in BARC, then simply ask them.

Yes, 190 mW is building for new generation SSBN and SSN. And definitely if NDB finalized the design with nuclear one, then this reactor go inside INS Vishaal.

But for first to be go nuclear, NDB need confirmation on EMALS or atleast USA provide steam catapults.

 

[ito]

Su 33 is larger.

I cannot see FGFA being deployed on Indian A/C. US will push for F35 if it were to give us technology. N-Rafale has a chance because of commonality of the platform between AirForce and Navy

 

[The Great One]

I cannot see FGFA being deployed on Indian A/C. US will push for F35 if it were to give us technology. N-Rafale has a chance because of commonality of the platform between AirForce and Navy

They will for sure. Lets see how the negotiations pan out. I cannot see any American fighter in Indian colors. Just too large gap of trust.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Ask from any senior level navy guy, or if you have good contacts in BARC, then simply ask them.

Yes, 190 mW is building for new generation SSBN and SSN. And definitely if NDB finalized the design with nuclear one, then this reactor go inside INS Vishaal.

But for first to be go nuclear, NDB need confirmation on EMALS or atleast USA provide steam catapults.

Sirji that is 80MW increased to 120MW for 8kMT weight up to 10kMT+ weight displacement for next SSBN.

We don't know yet about what they will do for SSNs.

 

[kaku1]

Sirji that is 80MW increased to 120MW for 8MT weight up to 10MT+ weight displacement for next SSBN.

We don't know yet about what they will do for SSNs.

Sirjee, there is no 120 mW reactor, all is just another hogwash. Again the BARC working on new 190 mW reactor, not on any other.
There is no upgraded version of Arihant reactors sirjee.

 

[ito]

They will for sure. Lets see how the negotiations pan out. I cannot see any American fighter in Indian colors. Just too large gap of trust.

I see the gap of trust between India and US becoming narrower in future. Who would have imagined that US will become one of the largest military supplier just 10 years ago.

 

[anonymus]

Hope we have N-FGFA.

1. There are no plans of any Naval version of FGFA. Even land version would start rolling out properly in next decade only.

2. Russian Navy has no plan for a CATOBAR carrier. If we want CATOBAR version of FGFA, we would have to fund its development cost.

3. Even STOBAR version of FGFA would take a decade more to make its first flight.

Given that we would have to fund N-FGFA ourself, and even then it would not fly before 2025-30 period, I would say it would be much wise to convert AMCA into a CATOBAR fighter.

3.In wake of Russia moving to Chinese camp, India is trying to move away from its dependence on Russian hardware. Whole MMRCA saga was to this end only. Buying Russian hardware where western hardware could be bought would defeat that purpose.

4. When dealing in hardware whose primary use is against China, US is much more trustworthy source than Russia.