India unhappy for being kept out of Afghan meet: PM to tell Turkish Prez

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India unhappy for being kept out of Afghan meet: PM to tell Turkish Prez

India's unhappiness for being kept out of a regional conference on Afghanistan held in Turkey recently is expected to be conveyed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to Turkish President Abdullah Gul during their meeting in New Delhi on Tuesday.

A whole range of bilateral and regional issues are expected to be covered during the talks that Singh and Gul will have.

Among the regional matters, the discussions are expected to be dominated by the issue of terrorism and Afghanistan and the role of the international community to bring about peace and stability there.

The two leaders are expected to take stock of the situation in Afghanistan, where both the countries have stakes, sources said.

In this context, the Prime Minister is expected to convey India's disappointment for being kept out of the regional conference hosted by Gul on January 25, the sources said.

Turkey did not invite India for the conference at the behest of Pakistan. India has lodged its protest with Turkey over it.

Singh will be conveying the same message at the highest level as India believes that it should be at any regional meeting where Afghanistan is discussed considering its high stakes in peace and development there, the sources said.

India unhappy for being kept out of Afghan meet: PM to tell Turkish Prez- Hindustan Times

 

[TechLahore]

India unhappy for being kept out of Afghan meet: PM to tell Turkish Prez

India's unhappiness for being kept out of a regional conference on Afghanistan held in Turkey recently is expected to be conveyed by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to Turkish President Abdullah Gul during their meeting in New Delhi on Tuesday.

Turkey played this one masterfully. Pakistan didn't want India at the summit, so Turkey obliged and kept them out. Now Abdullah Gul will smile and hear the Indians out then make some nice diplomatic statements in Delhi and get it over with.

As they say, "It's better to do what's in your interest and ask forgiveness later than to seek permission and risk the initiative".

As was being discussed in another thread viz the Turkish stand on Kashmir, episodes like this are proof positive of Turkey's leanings. If Turkey had the same quality of relationship with both India and Pakistan, it never would have kept India out of the summit to begin with...

 

[Parashuram1]

Turkey played this one masterfully. Pakistan didn't want India at the summit, so Turkey obliged and kept them out. Now Abdullah Gul will smile and hear the Indians out then make some nice diplomatic statements in Delhi and get it over with.

As they say, "It's better to do what's in your interest and ask forgiveness later than to seek permission and risk the initiative".

As was being discussed in another thread viz the Turkish stand on Kashmir, episodes like this are proof positive of Turkey's leanings. If Turkey had the same quality of relationship with both India and Pakistan, it never would have kept India out of the summit to begin with...

Well regardless of the matter of strategic alliance that Turkey enjoys with Pakistan, Indian involvement was important as it is the largest contributor to Afghanistan outside the NATO in terms of infrastructure.

However looking at this sudden visit of the Turkish leadership to Delhi after the disappointment Indians had to face, I think there would be compensatory deals that are in the pipeline and commercially Indians might have secured more than just an apology from the Turks.

 

[TechLahore]

However looking at this sudden visit of the Turkish leadership to Delhi after the disappointment Indians had to face, I think there would be compensatory deals that are in the pipeline and commercially Indians might have secured more than just an apology from the Turks.

Nothing wrong with commercial deals, but if you think that the Turks will take on a loss to make up for evicting India from the Afghanistan summit, I wouldn't buy that for a second.

And if they won't, then how are the commercial deals any consolation? They are simply being negotiated and conducted in mutual interest like they would be under normal circumstances.

Pakistan and India have commercial deals, as do China and the US, Russia and the US... it doesn't make any of those parties allies.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

Good to see, Turks playing positive role in regional stability specially in bring all parties involved in Afghanistan to come together for some common settlement.

 

[hindustan]

its upto turkey what they want

well one thing i am sure afgani pepoples dont like pakistan

 

[RPK]

Turkey promises to work with India for a stable Afghanistan - dnaindia.com

New Delhi: Turkish president Abdullah Gul, currently on a four-day visit to the country, was given a warm welcome in the capital even though Ankara had snubbed India last month by leaving it out of a regional conference on Afghanistan held in Istanbul

“India protested, Ankara apologised, and we’ve moved on,’’ a senior official confirmed. The matter was settled before Gul landed in India on Sunday. The Turkish president’s major meetings with government leaders took place on Tuesday.

During delegation-level talksbetween prime minister Manmohan Singh and president Gul, Afghanistan came up for discussion. “Gul said India’s contribution to Afghanistan is very important and expressed the desire to work with India in bringing stability in that country,” a statement by the external affairs ministry said.

Turkey has invited India to be part of the next regional conference on Afghanistan. Ankara’s decision to exclude India from the regional meet was at Pakistan’s insistence. Overlooking this, New Delhi and Ankara issued a joint declaration on terrorism in which both agreed to work towards finalising the Comprehensive Convention on International Terrorism, which India had proposed at the UN in 1996.

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

its upto turkey what they want

well one thing i am sure afgani pepoples dont like pakistan

Yes, when Indians are brain washing them on daily bases

 

[hindustan]

no because you supporting taliban

afagni want to live with peace and they saw how you were linked with taliban

now afgani want a new start

 

[equiliz3r]

Yes, when Indians are brain washing them on daily bases

do you have a link or proof for that?????

 

[Lankan Ranger]

India & Turkey discuss bilateral, regional and global issues

India and Turkey on Tuesday held delegation level talks in the capital in which the two sides discussed bilateral, regional and global issues of mutual interest.

Prime Minister Dr. Singh on this occasion told visiting Turkish President Abdullah Gul that his visit to India, so soon after the visit of Prime Minister Erdogan in November 2008, was an important milestone “to review the state of our bilateral relations and to chart a forward-looking agenda for advancing our multi-faceted cooperation.”

“We believe that our relations stand on their own footing, and should be progressed in that spirit,” the PM said and pointed out that despite having several frameworks and mechanisms for bilateral cooperation and two-way trade crossing $3 billion in 2008, the relations are far below their true potential and that we are ready for a much deeper and robust partnership with Turkey.

Dr. Singh in this context referred to the Joint Study Group for a Compressive Free Trade Agreement that held its first meeting in New Delhi in January 2010.

Hailing the increased participation of Turkish companies in infrastructural projects in India, Dr. Singh called for expanding cooperation in areas such as science and technology, culture, education and tourism.

While President Abdullah Gul on this occasion said that the two countries were rediscovering each other and that the frequent high-level exchanges, including his own visit, was a reflection of the political will to work closely with India on political, economic, science and technology and cultural fronts.

President Gul underlined that the special relationship between Turkey and Pakistan did not, in any way, create obstructions for Turkey-India relations, which Turkey intends to carry forward.

The two sides discussed recent developments relating to Afghanistan.

President Gul recognized that India's contribution to Afghanistan is very important and expressed the desire to work together with India in bringing stability to that country.

Gul wished to avoid any misunderstanding relating to a recent meeting in Istanbul on Afghanistan, which emerged from a trilateral format involving Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkey.

He said that Turkey would have liked India to be there and hoped that India would be able to participate in yet another meeting relating to developments in Afghanistan that would be hosted in Turkey later this year.

During detailed discussions on enhancing cooperation in different areas, the two sides agreed on a Joint Declaration on Terrorism and a Joint Declaration on Science and Technology Cooperation.

Both sides also agreed to continue to work together in G-20 and other international fora including the United Nations.

Indian Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh was assisted by Minister of External Affairs S.M. Krishna, Minister of Road, Surface Transport and Highways Kamal Nath, Minister of Petroleum and Natural Gas Murli Deora, Minister of Commerce and Industry Anand Sharma, Minister of State for Defence Pallam Raju and the Principal Secretary to PM, T.K.A. Nair, National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon, and other senior officials.

Turkish President Abullah Gul, accompanied by wife Hayrunnisa Gul, is on a State visit to India from 7th to 11th February, 2010.

Members of his delegation include Mehmet Aydin, State Minister and co-Chairman of the Joint Economic Commission, Prof. Dr. Recep Akdag, Minister of Health and Binali Yildirim, Minister of Transportation, Members of Parliament, senior Government officials and over a hundred business persons.

tehran times : India, Turkey discuss bilateral, regional and global issues

 

[Lankan Ranger]

 

[TechLahore]

President Gul underlined that the special relationship between Turkey and Pakistan did not, in any way, create obstructions for Turkey-India relations, which Turkey intends to carry forward.

Masterful backhanded compliment... the crux here is, while the relationship with Pakistan is "special" (what does that make the relationship with India, non-special?), we will still engage with India and we hope to sell lots of our stuff in that market.

 

[RiazHaq]

Turkey played this one masterfully. Pakistan didn't want India at the summit, so Turkey obliged and kept them out. Now Abdullah Gul will smile and hear the Indians out then make some nice diplomatic statements in Delhi and get it over with.

As they say, "It's better to do what's in your interest and ask forgiveness later than to seek permission and risk the initiative".

As was being discussed in another thread viz the Turkish stand on Kashmir, episodes like this are proof positive of Turkey's leanings. If Turkey had the same quality of relationship with both India and Pakistan, it never would have kept India out of the summit to begin with...

India fought hard and won the battle in Washington to be kept out of Holbrooke's mandate dealing with India, Pakistan and Afghanistan issues. It's funny how they are now desperate to play a role in Afghanistan.

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[karan.1970]

India fought hard and won the battle in Washington to be kept out of Holbrooke's mandate dealing with India, Pakistan and Afghanistan issues.

So very true... This time though Pakistan seems to be winning...