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SME Times News Bureau | 07 Feb, 2013

India is to equip its Perspective Multirole Fighter (PMF) variant of the Russian T-50 fifth-generation combat aircraft with avionics similar to Russia's version of the plane, a Russian official said Wednesday.

"The future plane (PMF) will have not only the same airframe, but also an integrated system of onboard equipment," United Aircraft Corporation president Mikhail Pogosyan said at an aviation show in Bangalore, India.

Pogosyan stressed this was a requirement of the Indian Air Force.

Details of the PMF design will be specified after the relevant contracts with India are signed, he said.

The PMF will have such advanced features as stealth, supersonic cruise speed, high maneuverability, an integrated set of avionics, and an advanced threat-warning system, according to Sukhoi, tne makers of the fighter.

The fighter is being developed on the basis of the Russian perspective aviation complex (PAK FA), of which T-50 is a prototype, to India's stringent technical requirements.

Further development of the programme envisages design and development of a two-seat variant and integration of an advanced engine with increased thrust.

The two sides are supposed to cooperate in joint marketing of the aircraft in other countries.

Analysts say India's choice of Russian avionics is a logical step and in line with previous joint programmes.

"It would be reasonable to assume that the model adopted for India's Su-30MKI (fighter jet purchase from Russia) would be continued with regard to its purchase of Russia's fifth-generation fighter, based on the Sukhoi T-50 prototype," said Douglas Barrie, air warfare analyst at the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies.

"The Indian Su-30MKI has some non-Russian standard avionics systems, but the baseline platform, propulsion and sensors are very much Russian, with final assembly of the aircraft in India."

"The PMF will, I suspect, be to all intents the production standard of the T-50, again perhaps with some non-Russian avionics and systems," Barrie added.

The PMF project began following a Russian-Indian agreement on cooperation in the development and production of perspective multirole fighter, signed Oct 18, 2007.

In December 2010, Russian arms sales agency Rosoboronexport, India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and aircraft maker Sukhoi Company signed a preliminary design development contract for the new aircraft.

In January this year, Russia's prototype Sukhoi T-50 made out its first long-range flight from a manufacturing plant in the far east to an airfield near Moscow.

The plane flew 7,000 km, making two landings on the way.

The plane joined three other T-50 prototype models at the Zhukovsky flight test centre, prior to state flight tests which are scheduled to start in March 2013.

A fifth prototype aircraft is being built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur factory in Siberia.

The T-50 first flew in January 2010 and was presented to the public at the Moscow Air Show in 2011.

The Russian defence ministry is planning to finish the state flight tests of eight prototypes by 2015, with production starting around 2016.

The T-50, which will be the core of Russia's future fighter fleet, is a fifth-generation multirole combat aircraft featuring elements of "stealth" technology, super-maneuverability, super-cruise capability (supersonic flight without use of afterburner), and an advanced avionics suite including an X-band active phased-array radar.

India to use Russian avionics for future fighter: Official
 
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So they have left the door open for French and Israeli components.
 
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LOL so called joint development is yet another MKI (Pakfa MKI) in the making. This is the reason why we also need programs like AMCA to create tech knowledge base and slowly reduce foren technology in our system in the form of MKIs coming from foren JVs or direct purchase. Russia techs developed using our funds will be sold back to us and will also land into the hands of PLAAF.
 
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India to use Russian avionics for future fighter: Official



India is to equip its Perspective Multirole Fighter (PMF) variant of the Russian T-50 fifth-generation combat aircraft with avionics similar to Russia's version of the plane, a Russian official said Wednesday.



"The Indian Su-30MKI has some non-Russian standard avionics systems, but the baseline platform, propulsion and sensors are very much Russian, with final assembly of the aircraft in India."

"The PMF will, I suspect, be to all intents the production standard of the T-50, again perhaps with some non-Russian avionics and systems," Barrie added.

lol! Am I the only one who sees the contradiction between the title of the article and what this guy actually said?


No new information has been stated as far as I can see. Like we have assumed- the FGFA(PMF) will be a "MKIsed" version of the T-50/PAK-FA with certain customisation by India with certain foregn (India,Israel, French etc) origin avionics and such on board. No one has ever said the IAF would get new engines,radars or any MAJOR differences on their 5th gen fighter version.


Non-story much?
 
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lol! Am I the only one who sees the contradiction between the title of the article and what this guy actually said?


No new information has been stated as far as I can see. Like we have assumed- the FGFA(PMF) will be a "MKIsed" version of the T-50/PAK-FA with certain customisation by India with certain foregn (India,Israel, French etc) origin avionics and such on board. No one has ever said the IAF would get new engines,radars or any MAJOR differences on their 5th gen fighter version.


Non-story much?

Many Indian members over here dream about co development and getting all the knowledge that goes into designing a 5th gen stealth, fighter that includes engine, avionics technologies etc.
 
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Many Indian members over here dream about co development and getting all the knowledge that goes into designing a 5th gen stealth, fighter that includes engine, avionics technologies etc.

yes there is Is it wrong that we are not going to co develope FGFA. I think the design is new and India will use new things in that fighter and also get the knowledge of avionics etc. if not definately from Rafale.
 
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What Happened to Join venture program ? FGFA suppose to be a joint venture.?
 
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yes there is Is it wrong that we are not going to co develope FGFA. I think the design is new and India will use new things in that fighter and also get the knowledge of avionics etc. if not definately from Rafale.

- Why are we putting so much money for if our contribution will be close to nil as far as technology goes? Russia is developing technology on our cost. I am not against the program, but the hype created around it that we are actually developing some technology that in reality is not true.

- No knowledge transfer only tech transfer that wont enable our Institutions like HAL etc to develop a 5th gen plane. There is a limit to what you can absorb by being just a user.

-what is the point of funding Russian next gen tech programs and later buying products based on those programs. Its very likely that the technologies that we are funding will land into the hands of PLAAF.

- When it comes to our own programs, we are not so generous, especially the IAF.
 
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What Happened to Join venture program ? FGFA suppose to be a joint venture.?

in name only. Reality: We are funding russian next gen tech programs, so later we can buy the product (FGFA) based on those techs.
Russia will be open to sell PAKFA to any country without requiring our permission.
 
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What Happened to Join venture program ? FGFA suppose to be a joint venture.?

As with any other Indian endeavors it sounds good on paper but when the rubber meets the road, their work fall apart. Indians have been clamoring to do design and avionics work in FGFA. The Russians must have taken one look of them and dumped them in the garbage can. The Russians have been sick of Indians taking credit all the times and decide to give out a press release now to set the record straight.
 
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As with any other Indian endeavors it sounds good on paper but when the rubber meets the road, their work fall apart. Indians have been clamoring to do design and avionics work in FGFA. The Russians must have taken one look of them and dumped them in the garbage can. The Russians have been sick of Indians taking credit all the times and decide to give out a press release now to set the record straight.

You know so much about Indian projects then why bother replying here. Please keep your rants to yourself.

When the rubber meet the meat our enemies will be screwed for sure. Tell your nation China to pitch whatever best they have against garbage India has brought form Russia.
 
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- Why are we putting so much money for if our contribution will be close to nil as far as technology goes? Russia is developing technology on our cost. I am not against the program, but the hype created around it that we are actually developing some technology that in reality is not true.

- No knowledge transfer only tech transfer that wont enable our Institutions like HAL etc to develop a 5th gen plane. There is a limit to what you can absorb by being just a u
 
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