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It is unlikely for IAF to go with additional Rafales. While IAF definitely wants it, the economic slowdown will hinder any major approvals...particularly something as big as a Rafale tender costing in excess of $7bnIf this is true than its good for India.
But the poster is known Troll and usually posts sensational news.
Maverick is back with his future game changer list.If this is true than its good for India.
But the poster is known Troll and usually posts sensational news.
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News,is breaking all.over indian defense circles,that Acm bhaduria has approached mod to start process of ordering the F4 Rafale in next 3 to 6 months .
26 of the first 36 rafales have arrived in India
the remaining 10 will be delivered by January 2022
The articles,below predict likely contracts in 2022 with delivery starting 2024 to 2025
If pakistan can't buy anything that it's your sad state of affairs , don't show your butt hurt here ....eh we felt the absence of beauties on the 27th of Feb, 2019*.
Where were your last beauties (Su-30MKi) on that fateful day?
Tucked & locked in their hangers in broad daylite...
Look, there is no doubt that the Rafale is a decent 4th Gen, possibly even a 4.5th Gen Fighter Jet - but please don't turn it into another one of your Bhagwaans. The IAF's track record is not worth boasting about in any international forum. Especially if you're going to discuss our track record(s) against one another in all Wars/Battles. This isn't View attachment 766915 where where everyone thinks that they're He-Man.
*I believe Guinness World Records want to give you an award for Most Crashes in Calendar Year (2019) - during Peace Times.
28 January: Jaguar crashed shortly after takeoff in Uttar Pradesh.
01 February: A Mirage 2000 crashed while on an acceptance sortie after being upgraded by state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) killing both Pilots.
12 February: A MiG-27 crashed at the Pokhran firing range.
19 February: Two Hawk aircraft of Surya Kiran aerobatic team crashed after hitting each other mid-air during a rehearsal for the AeroIndia Show. One of the pilots was killed in the accident.
27 February: Pakistan shot down one MiG-21 Bison during an aerial fight after India violated the airspace.
27 February: a Mi-17 chopper was also downed in Budgam District in Indian Occupied Kashmir killing all six on board.
08 March: A MiG-21 (Bison) crashed near Bikaner, western Rajasthan, due to a Bird strike, the pilot ejected safely.
31 March: A MiG-27 (UPG) crashed in Sirohi, Rajasthan, the pilot ejected safely.
03 June: An-32 crashed in Arunachal Pradesh. All 13 declared dead.
08 August: Su-30Mki crash in Tezpur. Both pilots ejected safely.
16 November: MiG-29K crashed in Goa soon after it took off for a training mission. Both the pilots managed to eject safely from the aircraft.
Note: Look, I didn't even mention any Su-30MKi being shot down 'cause clearly it seems you guys were doing a bang of a job on your own.
Q. Is there any type of a/c in your inventory that you didn't crash that year? Too bad the C-17 Globemaster III dodged that bullet.
#Fly-a-Kite
It is unlikely for IAF to go with additional Rafales. While IAF definitely wants it, the economic slowdown will hinder any major approvals...particularly something as big as a Rafale tender costing in excess of $7bn
Such news are usually from paid media outlets...post MMRCA 1.0, there were articles on a weekly basis favoring F-16, Gripen, Mig-35 and heck even the EFT despite India looking for a single engine jet for MMRCA 2.0
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NO, it is most possible that India will go for another batch of Rafale.
India did and do the same with almost all arm deals with foreign partners. India should go with Additional Rafale because it will cost less than any other because required logistic support costs will not be added.
And, it should be the last imported 4.5 gen fighter and the focus should be on HAL Tejas Mk1a and Mk2.
I do also support for a small batch of 5 gen fighters from Russia or US to fill the gaps because Still AMCA is 10 years away.
Name a few arms deals on the scale//budget of Rafales where India has gone for additional orders after placing an initial one!! We mostly have a history of cancelling orders in the pipeline or place emergency orders. Even small scale systems like M777 or K9 Vajra which IA has an urgent need for did not get any additional ordersIndia did and do the same with almost all arm deals with foreign partners. India should go with Additional Rafale because it will cost less than any other because required logistic support costs will not be added.
Rafale is a Twin engine fighter with much more advanced avionics, EW and weapons suite over Mk-1A/2 which are also single engined. The aircrafts which they individually replace are also differentAnd, it should be the last imported 4.5 gen fighter and the focus should be on HAL Tejas Mk1a and Mk2.
Su-57 is getting a lot of negative rep, not to mention the Ruskies themselves ordered these in limited numbers for namesake. 5th gen is more about sensor fusion, stealth and the ability to effectively communicate and use multiple platforms ...I doubt the Russians have enough funds to develop something that matches western tech. To top it off, importing a 5th gen fighter would effectively eat up AMCA's fundsI do also support for a small batch of 5 gen fighters from Russia or US to fill the gaps because Still AMCA is 10 years away.
Name a few arms deals on the scale//budget of Rafales where India has gone for additional orders after placing an initial one!! We mostly have a history of cancelling orders in the pipeline or place emergency orders. Even small scale systems like M777 or K9 Vajra which IA has an urgent need for did not get any additional orders
The only recent case was Sig-716s which is also a dumb decision since we ordered 72k rifles in 3 different tranches. We could've license manufactured those 216k rifles for a relatively cheaper price and the private Indian firm would've also gained some expertise
Rafale is a Twin engine fighter with much more advanced avionics, EW and weapons suite over Mk-1A/2 which are also single engined. The aircrafts which they individually replace are also different
Su-57 is getting a lot of negative rep, not to mention the Ruskies themselves ordered these in limited numbers for namesake. 5th gen is more about sensor fusion, stealth and the ability to effectively communicate and use multiple platforms ...I doubt the Russians have enough funds to develop something that matches western tech. To top it off, importing a 5th gen fighter would effectively eat up AMCA's funds
Additional Su-30 were ordered only because some were lost in crashed and we needed to replace thosei was refererring to P -8I, Su 30 MKI ETC.
How can you say both have the same capabilities? Rafale is a tested aircraft in service with several AFs while MWF is still under developmentRafale is medium weight and for me, it does not matter the single-engine or double. if both are having similar capabilities
It doesn't matter what J-20 looks like or if folks say the chinese have copied it...they still were able to develop a 5th gen fighter irrespective of it's capabilities. We should head in a similar direction instead of killing our AMCA by buying Russian jetsSu 57 and Chinese J 20- both look very bulky and not at all comparable to US-made F 22/F 35 jets.
F 22/F 35 jets are truly 5th generation fighter planes. Unsure about the latest Russian 5th gen, single-engine fighter.
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this article confirms what the staggered purchases mean
instead of ordering 114 in one go all f3 version at 25 billion.dollars
indian air force buys
f3 x 36 rafales in 2017 to 2021
36 f4 version between 2024 to 2027
then 3rd final batch 36 in 2030 with f5 version
no need for massive mlu like pakistan now faces for 120 block 1 and 2 thunders to get to block 3
it's smarter way to buy a hyper expensive weapon platform.and take advantage of new technologies
Yaa most likely scenario for future Rafale purchases off the shelf quick buys to bolster
Numbers and quality.
Rafale buys will eventually reach 100+ for sure.
Su30 MKI will also be needing heavy investments for MLUs a single fighter with engines,radar and sensor upgrades can come near to 15 to 20 mil per fighter thats also a big cost centre for IAF otherwise the plane wont be able to match Chinese fighters with in a decade or so.