India to Deploy Massive Tank Army Along Border With Pakistan

[The Eagle]

I think you are experienced enough to know that India had large numbers of T55, they need replacements too.

Yes.

Replacement is practiced by every force as a must to do but, I was referring to many developments in recent past including this Deployment in the same context (read doctrine and strikes & all those threats) so mere replacement was not intended.

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

In modern war tank is sitting duck ....Specially , when human eye can see the enemy movement. Seems heading toward water war.

No. Tanks do not move on their own, Mechanised Infantry always accompanies them.
And with proper tactics, Tanks are absolutely devastating.

 

[Dzz]

Thread already exists

https://defence.pk/threads/cold-sta...rder-with-pakistan.473504/page-4#post-9125205

 

[HAIDER]

No. Tanks do not move on their own, Mechanised Infantry always accompanies them.
And with proper tactics, Tanks are absolutely devastating.

Actually , population increase on both side , so borders are not empty zone anymore. Million of people reside within few yards from border and they have concrete houses.

 

[Sloth 22]

Yes.

Replacement is practiced by every force as a must to do but, I was referring to many developments in recent past including this Deployment in the same context (read doctrine and strikes & all those threats) so mere replacement was not intended.

Well what you are referring to will happen when the next batch is approved for northern border. Where actual tank deployments have started only in late 2015. That would be capability addition.

What is happening here is normal.And media as usual is doing what its " BADNAAM " for.

As for the doctrine you are referring to , it has existed ever since we started fighting wars. Its just that now the attacking force would be better equipped and other advancements that have happened across the globe. Its nothing as big as everyone tries to show.

 

[The Eagle]

Well what you are referring to will happen when the next batch is approved for northern border. Where actual tank deployments have started only in late 2015. That would be capability addition.

What is happening here is normal.And media as usual is doing what its " BADNAAM " for.

As for the doctrine you are referring to , it has existed ever since we started fighting wars. Its just that now the attacking force would be better equipped and other advancements that have happened across the globe. Its nothing as big as everyone tries to show.

New weapon procurement and projection by the rival is not something to be ignored at all. Either it is a media hype or not, one must be reading every move to be ready hence, the last so-called doctrine defeated way before it started.

 

[Sloth 22]

New weapon procurement and projection by the rival is not something to be ignored at all. Either it is a media hype or not, one must be reading every move to be ready hence, the last so-called doctrine defeated way before it started.

Obviously , new procurement is not to be ignored. But what is being done by media and other members here [who think that this is unprecedented, and is going for war , etc etc ] are mistaken.

On the doctrine , may be may be not.

 

[The Eagle]

Obviously , new procurement is not to be ignored. But what is being done by media and other members here [who think that this is unprecedented, and is going for war , etc etc ] are mistaken.

On the doctrine , may be may be not.

If you have the idea, for analysis and keeping an eye, I will not ignore anything related to the rival. Media can be wrong and is never an authentic source at all but developments cannot be ignored. I don't know what do you referring to ignore as yourself is not sure about doctrine etc but we cannot ignore as such. The name is "Threat Assessment" and then read NaMO threats of war, Chief threats, Ministers mongering as such. Here media is reporting the procurement and that is what to be considered.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

^^
Also coming...in a heavier avtaar.

Those Lego Tanks would easily get bogged down in Punjab if it rains.

 

[Dash]

New weapon procurement and projection by the rival is not something to be ignored at all. Either it is a media hype or not, one must be reading every move to be ready hence, the last so-called doctrine defeated way before it started.

Doctrines don't defeated. Doctrines are doctrines and they will remain as it is. The real defeat for you is that your nuclear gamble couldn't undo cold start. It exists and we will see who gets defeated in case of war.

Those Lego Tanks would easily get bogged down in Punjab if it rains.

New tank expert in town.

 

[TooRave]

Those Lego Tanks would easily get bogged down in Punjab if it rains.

Better than the t96 whose wheel came out during tank battalion & operating the same kind in your inventory..Lol
defence-blog,com/army/new-chinese-type-96b-tank-just-broke-down-at-tank-biathlon-competition.html

 

[Hulk]

Such moves indicates the war hysteria of NaMO that trying to impress the supporters through these maneuvering stunts. It has to be viewed in context of Indian Chief that indicated the so-called strike and then many ministers tried to make a ground. The continuous war mongering would be dangerous for the region as well however, the same will end as the famous cold-feet start doctrine in past.

Looking at the track record, readings and evaluation of events firstly it is all about a preparation to propagate the so-called strike in future and these maneuvers will be used as a reference under a dramatic strategy by media warfare and secondly, such moves are based upon the continuous war mongering and those urgent weapons purchase stating as needed for limited time conflict to create a threatening atmosphere for investors in CPEC, Gwadar etc.

NaMO mistakenly viewing something like this from a prospect that is all good for hue & cry and on paper but the feeling of I/Me, is a disastrous thing. This all is intended against the growth of Pakistan and to create a reason of an offense and diverging tactics from the real issues. Whenever it comes to real problem and issues like Kashmir, the growing CPEC and somehow when our friendly leadership is in crises, a push to save someone here on behest of Master/handlers of both friends, actually occurs which is not new or first time though Guardians are well prepared as well.

It's not war hysteria, its contingency planning. India exercised utmost restraint every time there was aggression from Pakistan. Please keep in mind Pakistan's policy has been that if India does not talk we will use terrorism to force them to come to the table. India has typically fought terrorism only on its soil with terrorist alone. This works for Pakistan as they are sending non-state actors and even losing them is no grief as losing soldiers. India has changed policy. We have never initiated war, all wars are Initiated with Pakistan. This deployment says we will respond to terrorism differently and prepared for war if Pakistan escalates. So bottom line war will only happen if you initiate it, we will not resist from responding to avoid war, it has to be both ways. A recent report suggests approx 3 billion in war reserves have been ordered to be prepared.

 

[The Eagle]

Doctrines don't defeated. Doctrines are doctrines and they will remain as it is. The real defeat for you is that your nuclear gamble couldn't undo cold start. It exists and we will see who gets defeated in case of war.

Doctrine are design and art of the war, changes time to time however, the referred cold doctrine was turned into Cold-Feet-Start=Doctrine that you may remember how the preparations etc were done on urgent basis but it was the same Tactical N that countered it way before start however, recently India admitted that it existed so we will make sure, the same may remain on paper. These threats are old ones but repeated time to time by NaMO & Co.

It's not war hysteria, its contingency planning. India exercised utmost restraint every time there was aggression from Pakistan. Please keep in mind Pakistan's policy has been that if India does not talk we will use terrorism to force them to come to the table. India has typically fought terrorism only on its soil with terrorist alone. This works for Pakistan as they are sending non-state actors and even losing them is no grief as losing soldiers. India has changed policy. We have never initiated war, all wars are Initiated with Pakistan. This deployment says we will respond to terrorism differently and prepared for war if Pakistan escalates. So bottom line war will only happen if you initiate it, we will not resist from responding to avoid war, it has to be both ways. A recent report suggests approx 3 billion in war reserves have been ordered to be prepared.

Same old line Pakistan did this, terrorism, supporting actors etc as the same are repeated thousand times by Indian Media and NaMO since joined the office. Not to divert the topic, read about Pakistan war on terrorism, the losses of innocent lives and our advancing victory in the same. What Indian war with terrorism are you referring here, except the atrocities in Kashmir and I am sure the same is the point of you but they are fighting for their freedom and right of determination. Pakistan's war on terrorism is widely/globally accepted, appreciated and supported by many and on other hand, who says IA is fighting the terrorism in IoK except your own media and GoI. Lastly it was UN seeking access to the IoK to check human rights violation which was denied by the India. The terrorism you referred, is actually blames and are not proven and Pakistan is supporting the Kashmir Cause. At-least avoid listening too much to India Media and these Arnab like lines as Pakistan started, Pakistan did, Pakistan doing etc while on other hand, you do not see who has been threatening every now & then.

 

[Hulk]

Doctrine are design and art of the war, changes time to time however, the referred cold doctrine was turned into Cold-Feet-Start=Doctrine that you may remember how the preparations etc were done on urgent basis but it was the same Tactical N that countered it way before start however, recently India admitted that it existed so we will make sure, the same may remain on paper. These threats are old ones but repeated time to time by NaMO & Co.




Same old line Pakistan did this, terrorism, supporting actors etc as the same are repeated thousand times by Indian Media and NaMO since joined the office. Not to divert the topic, read about Pakistan war on terrorism, the losses of innocent lives and our advancing victory in the same. What Indian war with terrorism are you referring here, except the atrocities in Kashmir and I am sure the same is the point of you but they are fighting for their freedom and right of determination. Pakistan's war on terrorism is widely/globally accepted, appreciated and supported by many and on other hand, who says IA is fighting the terrorism in IoK except your own media and GoI. Lastly, it was UN seeking access to the IoK to check human rights violation which was denied by the India. The terrorism you referred, is actually blamed and are not proven and Pakistan is supporting the Kashmir Cause. At-least avoid listening too much to India Media and these Arnab like lines as Pakistan started, Pakistan did, Pakistan doing etc while on other hand, you do not see who has been threatening every now & then.

Alright since we have repeated this right. Please explain what makes you believe we are doing war hysteria? On one hand people say India does not have balls and attack and also say we are attacking using terrorism and then this. It's so confusing. Show me one evidence where we initiated war which makes you believe we will do. I know my country and they have higher tolerance and avoids war, which is why Pakistan takes its chances.

 

[The Eagle]

Alright since we have repeated this right. Please explain what makes you believe we are doing war hysteria? On one hand people say India does not have balls and attack and also say we are attacking using terrorism and then this. It's so confusing. Show me one evidence where we initiated war which makes you believe we will do. I know my country and they have higher tolerance and avoids war, which is why Pakistan takes its chances.

I don't know whether India misses such thing that I did not refer to at all but one thing for sure, the NaMO's threats, the so-called start doctrine, the so-called surgical strikes etc all are war hysteria and mongering when such chunk of budget is spent on weapons. You are asking for the evidence of initiating the war so I would refer read other than Indian prospect so you will understand what is called initiating a war, how many types of war, how to initiate abc type of war, how rivals initiated xyz war, so you will have the idea that mere bombing is not the single source of war but many others as well like in short, espionage through spies assets etc. Rest about tolerance and all that blames, I wouldn't refer any links, articles etc so the topic may not be diverted. Help yourself and read if you want to understand as such.