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Big breakthrough in Rafale deal likely
India is likely to buy about 60 Rafale combat jets from Dassault Aviation instead of 126 aircraft proposed in the original request for proposal (RFP) meant to be procured in under the process that began some eight years ago, highly placed sources told this writer.
The decision to buy nearly three and a half squadrons (between 60-63 aircraft) of Rafale jets for the Indian Air Force (IAF) was taken at the highest political level hours before Prime Minister Narendra Modi embarked on his three-nation tour on Thursday, the sources added. Given the huge financial and operational implication, the government thought it prudent to take a strategic decision rather than leave it to a bureaucratic process.

The French are likely to be told of this decision by the Prime Minister himself when he meets President Francois Hollande in Paris on Friday.

Under the new proposal, the entire process for procuring 126 combat jets would be scrapped, sources revealed. A new G-to-G (government-to-government) contract is likely to be negotiated between New Delhi and Paris to buy around 60 Rafale jets in flyaway condition from France.

According to top sources, this approach is being adopted for two primary reasons: one, it is imperative that the IAF gets these jets as soon as possible in view of the fast depleting numbers and two, because the impasse in the price negotiations. The entire procurement procedure for the combat jets has turned into a chaotic process thanks to the indecision on part of the political leadership in the previous regime and some loopholes in the negotiations itself making it impossible for the government to arrive at a satisfactory solution.

India is likely to ask for lowering of the price per aircraft too when the G-to-G negotiations get underway. By ordering 60 aircraft to be manufactured in France itself, the government is also hoping to skirt the tricky issue of guaranteeing quality of work under Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), designated as the Lead Production Agency in India.

The government's drastic decision to scarp the torturous procurement process is aimed at augmenting the IAF's falling numbers as well as save about RS 60,000 crore in precious foreign exchange. The calculation is that the 60-odd aircraft would cost about RS 40-45000 crore to be paid out over next four-five years instead of over Rs one Lakh crore necessary to procure the original number of 126 combat jets.

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Sooo we are going for Su35S as rumoured if this is what we are doing. Well thought move by PMO . Cost effective and way more better option as we already upgraded our Mirage fleet to impressive upgrades . More over I guess and vet these rafales will be committed for Nuclear delivery system also. Since the price tag is huge this must our starter for follow on in the future as negotiations ccan take place after full mutual understanding. Hope this is true . Finger crossed !!! Do pray guys
 
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"Make in India" should be the prime motto of Modi in France

Buying 60 fighter jets manufactured in France is not an issue, But Indian Aero space Industry needs technological edge, for that a partnership with Dassault is a good move, I hope the remaining Rafales will be manufactured here in India.

Big breakthrough in Rafale deal likely
India is likely to buy about 60 Rafale combat jets from Dassault Aviation instead of 126 aircraft proposed in the original request for proposal (RFP) meant to be procured in under the process that began some eight years ago, highly placed sources told this writer.
The decision to buy nearly three and a half squadrons (between 60-63 aircraft) of Rafale jets for the Indian Air Force (IAF) was taken at the highest political level hours before Prime Minister Narendra Modi embarked on his three-nation tour on Thursday, the sources added. Given the huge financial and operational implication, the government thought it prudent to take a strategic decision rather than leave it to a bureaucratic process.

The French are likely to be told of this decision by the Prime Minister himself when he meets President Francois Hollande in Paris on Friday.

Under the new proposal, the entire process for procuring 126 combat jets would be scrapped, sources revealed. A new G-to-G (government-to-government) contract is likely to be negotiated between New Delhi and Paris to buy around 60 Rafale jets in flyaway condition from France.

According to top sources, this approach is being adopted for two primary reasons: one, it is imperative that the IAF gets these jets as soon as possible in view of the fast depleting numbers and two, because the impasse in the price negotiations. The entire procurement procedure for the combat jets has turned into a chaotic process thanks to the indecision on part of the political leadership in the previous regime and some loopholes in the negotiations itself making it impossible for the government to arrive at a satisfactory solution.

India is likely to ask for lowering of the price per aircraft too when the G-to-G negotiations get underway. By ordering 60 aircraft to be manufactured in France itself, the government is also hoping to skirt the tricky issue of guaranteeing quality of work under Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), designated as the Lead Production Agency in India.

The government's drastic decision to scarp the torturous procurement process is aimed at augmenting the IAF's falling numbers as well as save about RS 60,000 crore in precious foreign exchange. The calculation is that the 60-odd aircraft would cost about RS 40-45000 crore to be paid out over next four-five years instead of over Rs one Lakh crore necessary to procure the original number of 126 combat jets.
 
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well we'll see if this is true or not soon I guess.
 
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"Make in India" should be the prime motto of Modi in France

Buying 60 fighter jets manufactured in France is not an issue, But Indian Aero space Industry needs technological edge, for that a partnership with Dassault is a good move, I hope the remaining Rafales will be manufactured here in India.

Dude are you serious? Now we will get Rafael at reasonable price . And we are not US or China to spend all our money on defence . Now we will get rafale and at the same time we will get Su35S I guess . If true it's a great thing. No need to buy 124 rafale when we will get FGFA and AMCA . Hopefully 30-40% of money will be invested in India to produce some basic high tech rafale components for sure as per our defence procurement law.

So cheer up dude . This whole drama will be over and we can move on with our life :yahoo::enjoy:

It's nothing but renegotiating "kickbacks"! :D
Ohhhh no problem :D

well we'll see if this is true or not soon I guess.

His tweet is been shared like forest fire by all Indian Jurno and defence experts . I have asked him to reply on its conformation let's see. It's very reasonable for India to buy of the shelves in small numbers . Anyway we will get know ow how of this high tech weapon system. But remember it's just an proposal by PM Modi . But I don't see any reason why french men will deny it

ill believe it when I see it...
right now its all just hot fluff, esp since no other news source available to confirm the intel
In no time you will get new source from NDTV or Live fist for sure.
 
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India has a better chance of getting discount on a large order (126 jets) vs smaller order (60 jets)
 
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What happens in Paris,stays in Paris.
Lol good one Bro :D

India has a better chance of getting discount on a large order (126 jets) vs smaller order (60 jets)
Dude now we will get pure MMRCA . What else do we want ? When fighter is in our hand we will do every trick to copy it's technology. It's new Act India government at the centre

Huge take away :

  1. LOW COST as G-G process will take place to reduce the price by 20-30% . Since its Without ToT
  2. BOOST FOR IAF : IAF gets these jets as soon as possible in view of the fast depleting numbers
  3. Issue of guaranteeing quality will be sorted out !!!!
 
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