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India: the New American Disposable Paper?

This guy did his best to woo india to stand up , be counted and take the lead role in Afghanistan after US beats the retreat

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He bad mouthed Pakistan while in Delhi , which the indian press really liked but india shouldered no burden of combat in Afghanistan , will be interesting to see how much india gets used and how much it can use America for its own benefit
 

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Here is another gem by the same author.

India Will Pay a Heavy Price for Hegemony in Indian Ocean Region
Posted on April 19th, 2015
Dilrook Kannangara

When a Chinese submarine docked in Colombo for supplies, India was needlessly worried. In retaliation India regime changed the Rajapaksa administration installing a puppet regime.

India’s two largest state economies are Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu, both coastal states relying heavily on import and export industries. If the Indian Ocean Region is militarised which complicates its security status, these economies will collapse. It may possibly lead to India’s much anticipated disintegration.


India survived for close to 70 long years thanks to unconditional support from the Soviet Union and Russia. Highly lethal weapons and their world class technology found their way to India cheaply and at times free. It was a tremendous boon for a poor nation like India. However, Russia’s conventional weapons industry has lost its glamour. Now it is nothing more than ordinary and certainly not world class.

Indian interference in Vietnam against China is causing it more harm than good. Tit for tat manoeuvres against China will not take India anywhere as its economy is barely one fourth of China’s.


How does ties with a Sovereign nation like Vietnam interfere with China? unless the author has confused Vietnam as Chinese territory.
 
Interesting, all of these red points are already happening today, I am pretty sure everyone agree with it no doubt. :agree:

Seriously? The author is attributing 2008 Mumbai attacks to increase in Chinese arming of Pakistan

In retaliation to India teaming up with Vietnam, China will arm Pakistan even more. This will place India in a grind as two nuclear armed neighbours aim their missiles at India. Its coastal nuclear power plants and economic nerve centres will also come under severe threat of 2008 type of small attacks which will ruin the Indian economy.

Some random nincompoop Rajpakasa groupie, writing incoherent and factually inaccurate shyte on some 2 bit website, must debate that on PDF!

:close_tema::close_tema::close_tema:
I wonder if the OP is yet to stumble upon Ahmed Qureshi rupee news
 
LankaWeb – India: the New American Disposable Paper?

India: the New American Disposable Paper?

Posted on May 31st, 2015

Use them and dump them is the doctrine used by the global policeman towards its non-European allies. It can be seen right throughout the history it has teamed up with a nation or a group, particularly after 1945.

Interestingly, one of its first captives was Sri Lanka (Ceylon) which signed the Anglo-Ceylon Defence Partnership Agreement in 1947. Making use of this, the west forced Ceylon to sign and promote the San Francisco Peace Treaty (1951) against China. By this treaty, China permanently lost some of its territory grabbed by the Japanese Imperial army since 1895. The right thing would have been to return Chinese territory back to China which was denied by the SFPT. Current tension in East China Sea over Senkuku/Diaoyu, etc. islands is the result of the SFPT to which Ceylon was a party to. Pakistan was the other independent Asian country that supported it. After making use of Ceylon, the west dumped it soon thereafter leaving it without protection. In 1987 facing an Indian invasion JR Jayawardane made a frantic attempt to revive the 1947 agreement but to no avail. Used, then dumped.

Afghan rebel groups were used by the US against the Soviet invasion but soon dumped them when the invaders retreated. It created a global terror epidemic which is now sweeping westward from Iraq. At the same time Pakistan was used to coordinate weapons transfers to the rebels. Part of these weapons leaked to radical elements within Pakistan which made it ungovernable. Having achieved its objectives, USA left Pakistan high and dry. It is the same story in Afghanistan (part 2), Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine, Bosnia, Turkey, South Vietnam, Yemen, etc. Even Israel has been deserted by the US over Iran recently as Iran’s help is sought by Washington to fight off IS rebels. Interestingly, USA deserted its closest ally, the UK over its war with the IRA. USA refused to take sides and even allowed help to flow to the IRA. Groups and nations fooled by western gimmicks committed themselves to a disastrous plan only to find the west deserting them when things turn difficult.

Never ending sufferings of Libyan, Syrian, Egyptian, Ukrainian, Iraqi, Pakistani, etc. people must be a stark warning to India which is USA’s latest use and dump toilet paper. Unfortunately for India, its ultra nationalist rulers don’t see what is in stock for it by playing its role assigned by USA. In its latest blunder, India has joined USA and Vietnam in disrupting China in the South China Sea. The timing couldn’t have been more perfect. Since the past four weeks, USA made several military advances in South China Sea. It spied on newly constructed Chinese islets, decided to place its nuclear warhead carrying planes in northern Australia against China (an extremely dangerous and irresponsible move), agitated ASEAN countries to take on China and entered into weapons transfer agreements with them. India jumped in and responded immediately by entering into a strategic defence agreement with Vietnam against China. India has already sent a destroyer and three accompanying vessels to South China Sea to further antagonise China.

This follows India’s retaliatory response to China supposedly building a ‘string of pearls’ around India. The absurd ‘string of pearls’ concept is a US made concept to demonise China’s commercial infrastructure in South Asia and pit India into confrontation against China. In fact, there is no Chinese attempt to encircle India. Most Chinese trade and vital oil imports pass through the Indian Ocean and defending these trade routes is of paramount importance. On the other hand, the South China Sea has no relevance to Indian trade. However, if India tries to enter into the South China Sea dispute as it already has done so, China will be left with no option but to respond in like manner.

The odds are against India for several strategic reasons. Firstly the sheer size of the Indian navy is incomparably smaller than that of China; and outdated. India’s technology mentor Russia is severely lagging behind naval technology and indigenous technology is extremely poor and unreliable. Indian air force is also plagued by outdated Soviet era technology, very poor local products and the absence of an upgrade for the past 20 years. Most Indian planes are dubbed ‘flying coffins’ by pilots and as a result there is a severe shortage of pilots. Chinese economy is making larger strands than India further widening the gap.

Secondly, India is a landlocked country with hostile neighbours thanks to its own making. In case of war disrupting Chinese and Indian shipping, India will collapse as its oil and other imports cannot reach it and its exports cannot leave its ports. China on the other hand has land routes out of China to Europe and out into the Pacific. China also has oil pipelines through land and within the next three years will have most of its petroleum needs coming via land routes. Therefore a sea battle of hostilities will have only one definite loser – India.

Thirdly, there is the Pakistan factor. Pakistan is already a nuclear power which can match India’s nuclear capabilities. In retaliation to India teaming up with Vietnam, China will arm Pakistan even more. This will place India in a grind as two nuclear armed neighbours aim their missiles at India. Its coastal nuclear power plants and economic nerve centres will also come under severe threat of 2008 type of small attacks which will ruin the Indian economy.

Fourthly, as India cosies up with USA, it is fast losing its all weather friend – Russia. Already Russia is hedging its dependence on India with Pakistan and China. As India sinks further into the US lap, Russia will distance itself from India. This is the perfect situation the US is looking for. It will further galvanise India into the US plan as it has no other partner to turn to. As a result India will lose its weapons flow (currently India is world’s largest importer of weapons) and technology donations. Western weapons are far more expensive and the west doesn’t share military technology. The Indian economy will go red trying to buy these expensive weapons.

Fifthly, India is a very unstable country with ethnic boundaries running crisscross. Most Indian states (including Tamil Nadu) have active yet suppressed separatist movements to gain independence. The fragility of this ethnic enclave model was seen from the collapse of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. Faced with the Indian threat, China and Pakistan will help these state movements and break up India. On the other hand, a confrontation will only galvanise China together.

When things go bad, India will be unable to locate US help let alone receive them. The fate of the pro-US Ukrainian government will befall India. However, Indian decision makers are oblivious to these facts and are happy to play the US game against China. India’s embrace of death and destruction will have no different end results from that of other countries that have already gone through it
So u agree Pakistan is Chinese disposable paper? Just aksing. :coffee:
 
USA has evolved its politics significantly over the last 50 years. After the world war, the US was willing to side with anyone who opposed communism or socialism - even if they were brutal dictators. This made them officially the most hated country in the world, since they ended up throwing budding democracies with ruthless dictators in a lot of countries causing large scale chaos. Pakistan sided with the US at a time when US was pretty much the worst country to side with - and their interference against the Soviets by using Mujahudeen cost Pak big time.

US now is significantly different and much more pragmatic. India's democracy surviving is not really a threat to us any more and we are quickly moving away from crony socialism to market capitalism. Joining hands is not a bad deal for India since there is now a lot in common between our systems.

Regarding the article itself, it's authentic gibberish given the author talks about Tamil separatism which has been dead for 50 years. I'm Tamil myself, grew up in Chennai and have never seen any nonsense of this sort.
 
Trying to have a competition of who's stupider with OP? India is encased by the INDIAN ocean exclusively.
Bad grammar with worse Geographical knowledge leads to rise of a brain fart like yourself once in a while.

I talked about boundries of oceans. BOB and Arabian Ocean are lakes according to you?
 
LankaWeb – India: the New American Disposable Paper?
India: the New American Disposable Paper?

Posted on May 31st, 2015

India has already sent a destroyer and three accompanying vessels to South China Sea to further antagonise China.

It doesn't take much to antagonize the mighty China nowadays, does it? Well then, how the f*** do you explain the Chinese direct and active involvement in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, which is an UN Recognized Disputed territory - also known as the most dangerous Nuclear Flashpoint in the world!?

This follows India’s retaliatory response to China supposedly building a ‘string of pearls’ around India. The absurd ‘string of pearls’ concept is a US made concept to demonise China’s commercial infrastructure in South Asia and pit India into confrontation against China. In fact, there is no Chinese attempt to encircle India. Most Chinese trade and vital oil imports pass through the Indian Ocean and defending these trade routes is of paramount importance. On the other hand, the South China Sea has no relevance to Indian trade. However, if India tries to enter into the South China Sea dispute as it already has done so, China will be left with no option but to respond in like manner.

"String of pearls" is neither imaginary nor does Chinese need any outside help to demonize themselves. They are doing a fine job of it, themselves. You only need to talk to right people in SCS to know how saintly China is.

Secondly, India is a landlocked country with hostile neighbours thanks to its own making. In case of war disrupting Chinese and Indian shipping, India will collapse as its oil and other imports cannot reach it and its exports cannot leave its ports. China on the other hand has land routes out of China to Europe and out into the Pacific. China also has oil pipelines through land and within the next three years will have most of its petroleum needs coming via land routes. Therefore a sea battle of hostilities will have only one definite loser – India.

Well, this has to take the cake! If India is landlocked, so is US or Britain or even the island nation of Sri Lanka!

Thirdly, there is the Pakistan factor. Pakistan is already a nuclear power which can match India’s nuclear capabilities. In retaliation to India teaming up with Vietnam, China will arm Pakistan even more. This will place India in a grind as two nuclear armed neighbours aim their missiles at India. Its coastal nuclear power plants and economic nerve centres will also come under severe threat of 2008 type of small attacks which will ruin the Indian economy.

First China armed Pakistan to the teeth with Nuclear weapons and delivery systems. India hasn't even begun reciprocating the favor to Vietnam or any other country in the SCS! And India doesn't even plan on proliferating the fissile material - unlike the responsible country of China.

You can't twist the dates and facts to support your narrative!


Finally, I have 2 fantasies that involve Sri Lanka!
- I want to see Sri Lanka share a border with Pakistan Occupied Kashmir during spring time when Pakistanis are busy pushing the "freedom" fighters across trying to make up for the lost time in the winters.
- I also want to see Sri Lanka to share the maritime borders with China and then to see Sri Lanka's reaction when the Chinese build a big artificial right next to them on top of a flimsy reef, using an even flimsier pretext!

I am sure the ever-pragmatic Sri Lankans will continue to hold Saintly Chinese and Innocent Pakistanis with the same regard they hold today!
 
LankaWeb – India: the New American Disposable Paper?

India: the New American Disposable Paper?

Posted on May 31st, 2015

Use them and dump them is the doctrine used by the global policeman towards its non-European allies. It can be seen right throughout the history it has teamed up with a nation or a group, particularly after 1945.

Interestingly, one of its first captives was Sri Lanka (Ceylon) which signed the Anglo-Ceylon Defence Partnership Agreement in 1947. Making use of this, the west forced Ceylon to sign and promote the San Francisco Peace Treaty (1951) against China. By this treaty, China permanently lost some of its territory grabbed by the Japanese Imperial army since 1895. The right thing would have been to return Chinese territory back to China which was denied by the SFPT. Current tension in East China Sea over Senkuku/Diaoyu, etc. islands is the result of the SFPT to which Ceylon was a party to. Pakistan was the other independent Asian country that supported it. After making use of Ceylon, the west dumped it soon thereafter leaving it without protection. In 1987 facing an Indian invasion JR Jayawardane made a frantic attempt to revive the 1947 agreement but to no avail. Used, then dumped.

Afghan rebel groups were used by the US against the Soviet invasion but soon dumped them when the invaders retreated. It created a global terror epidemic which is now sweeping westward from Iraq. At the same time Pakistan was used to coordinate weapons transfers to the rebels. Part of these weapons leaked to radical elements within Pakistan which made it ungovernable. Having achieved its objectives, USA left Pakistan high and dry. It is the same story in Afghanistan (part 2), Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine, Bosnia, Turkey, South Vietnam, Yemen, etc. Even Israel has been deserted by the US over Iran recently as Iran’s help is sought by Washington to fight off IS rebels. Interestingly, USA deserted its closest ally, the UK over its war with the IRA. USA refused to take sides and even allowed help to flow to the IRA. Groups and nations fooled by western gimmicks committed themselves to a disastrous plan only to find the west deserting them when things turn difficult.

Never ending sufferings of Libyan, Syrian, Egyptian, Ukrainian, Iraqi, Pakistani, etc. people must be a stark warning to India which is USA’s latest use and dump toilet paper. Unfortunately for India, its ultra nationalist rulers don’t see what is in stock for it by playing its role assigned by USA. In its latest blunder, India has joined USA and Vietnam in disrupting China in the South China Sea. The timing couldn’t have been more perfect. Since the past four weeks, USA made several military advances in South China Sea. It spied on newly constructed Chinese islets, decided to place its nuclear warhead carrying planes in northern Australia against China (an extremely dangerous and irresponsible move), agitated ASEAN countries to take on China and entered into weapons transfer agreements with them. India jumped in and responded immediately by entering into a strategic defence agreement with Vietnam against China. India has already sent a destroyer and three accompanying vessels to South China Sea to further antagonise China.

This follows India’s retaliatory response to China supposedly building a ‘string of pearls’ around India. The absurd ‘string of pearls’ concept is a US made concept to demonise China’s commercial infrastructure in South Asia and pit India into confrontation against China. In fact, there is no Chinese attempt to encircle India. Most Chinese trade and vital oil imports pass through the Indian Ocean and defending these trade routes is of paramount importance. On the other hand, the South China Sea has no relevance to Indian trade. However, if India tries to enter into the South China Sea dispute as it already has done so, China will be left with no option but to respond in like manner.

The odds are against India for several strategic reasons. Firstly the sheer size of the Indian navy is incomparably smaller than that of China; and outdated. India’s technology mentor Russia is severely lagging behind naval technology and indigenous technology is extremely poor and unreliable. Indian air force is also plagued by outdated Soviet era technology, very poor local products and the absence of an upgrade for the past 20 years. Most Indian planes are dubbed ‘flying coffins’ by pilots and as a result there is a severe shortage of pilots. Chinese economy is making larger strands than India further widening the gap.

Secondly, India is a landlocked country with hostile neighbours thanks to its own making. In case of war disrupting Chinese and Indian shipping, India will collapse as its oil and other imports cannot reach it and its exports cannot leave its ports. China on the other hand has land routes out of China to Europe and out into the Pacific. China also has oil pipelines through land and within the next three years will have most of its petroleum needs coming via land routes. Therefore a sea battle of hostilities will have only one definite loser – India.

Thirdly, there is the Pakistan factor. Pakistan is already a nuclear power which can match India’s nuclear capabilities. In retaliation to India teaming up with Vietnam, China will arm Pakistan even more. This will place India in a grind as two nuclear armed neighbours aim their missiles at India. Its coastal nuclear power plants and economic nerve centres will also come under severe threat of 2008 type of small attacks which will ruin the Indian economy.

Fourthly, as India cosies up with USA, it is fast losing its all weather friend – Russia. Already Russia is hedging its dependence on India with Pakistan and China. As India sinks further into the US lap, Russia will distance itself from India. This is the perfect situation the US is looking for. It will further galvanise India into the US plan as it has no other partner to turn to. As a result India will lose its weapons flow (currently India is world’s largest importer of weapons) and technology donations. Western weapons are far more expensive and the west doesn’t share military technology. The Indian economy will go red trying to buy these expensive weapons.

Fifthly, India is a very unstable country with ethnic boundaries running crisscross. Most Indian states (including Tamil Nadu) have active yet suppressed separatist movements to gain independence. The fragility of this ethnic enclave model was seen from the collapse of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. Faced with the Indian threat, China and Pakistan will help these state movements and break up India. On the other hand, a confrontation will only galvanise China together.

When things go bad, India will be unable to locate US help let alone receive them. The fate of the pro-US Ukrainian government will befall India. However, Indian decision makers are oblivious to these facts and are happy to play the US game against China. India’s embrace of death and destruction will have no different end results from that of other countries that have already gone through it

Lol India is a landlocked country

It doesn't take much to antagonize the mighty China nowadays, does it? Well then, how the f*** do you explain the Chinese direct and active involvement in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, which is an UN Recognized Disputed territory - also known as the most dangerous Nuclear Flashpoint in the world!?



"String of pearls" is neither imaginary nor does Chinese need any outside help to demonize themselves. They are doing a fine job of it, themselves. You only need to talk to right people in SCS to know how saintly China is.



Well, this has to take the cake! If India is landlocked, so is US or Britain or even the island nation of Sri Lanka!



First China armed Pakistan to the teeth with Nuclear weapons and delivery systems. India hasn't even begun reciprocating the favor to Vietnam or any other country in the SCS! And India doesn't even plan on proliferating the fissile material - unlike the responsible country of China.

You can't twist the dates and facts to support your narrative!


Finally, I have 2 fantasies that involve Sri Lanka!
- I want to see Sri Lanka share a border with Pakistan Occupied Kashmir during spring time when Pakistanis are busy pushing the "freedom" fighters across trying to make up for the lost time in the winters.
- I also want to see Sri Lanka to share the maritime borders with China and then to see Sri Lanka's reaction when the Chinese build a big artificial right next to them on top of a flimsy reef, using an even flimsier pretext!

I am sure the ever-pragmatic Sri Lankans will continue to hold Saintly Chinese and Innocent Pakistanis with the same regard they hold today!

Exactly the hypocrisy displayed by Chinese is mind boggling
 
2 Options for peace.

1.South China sea kisi ke baap ki jaagir nahi hai,hm waha se petroleum nikalenge , jisko jo ukhandna hai ukhad le.

OR

2.India ko ungli karna chor do.
 

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