India talks about infrastructure, China builds it...

[tw00tw00]

 

[Chanakyaa]

China Talks about Mars .. India ACTUALLY Reached There !

 

[CBU-105]

China Talks about Mars .. India ACTUALLY Reached There !

they are far ahead of us wrt infra.

 

[OnlyTheTruth]

they are far ahead of us wrt infra.

That's is because their manufacturing sector has been in doldrums for some time now. What else would explain their risky infrastructure investments(though with ulterior motives) in the failing economies of South Asia like Pakistan and Sri Lanka, also the Ghost Cities over there. They are counting on infrastructure projects to bail themselves out of the mess.

 

[Han Patriot]

China Talks about Mars .. India ACTUALLY Reached There !

With American help on board a primitive rocket. =)

 

[Dungeness]

That's is because their manufacturing sector has been in doldrums for some time now. What else would explain their risky infrastructure investments(though with ulterior motives) in the failing economies of South Asia like Pakistan and Sri Lanka, also the Ghost Cities over there. They are counting on infrastructure projects to bail themselves out of the mess.

It sounds like a black humor to me from an Indian.

 

[Han Patriot]

It sounds like a black humor to me from an Indian.

I am really curious how they think China's economy is only about infrastructure, we do export almost 2 trillion worth of goods you know.

That's is because their manufacturing sector has been in doldrums for some time now. What else would explain their risky infrastructure investments(though with ulterior motives) in the failing economies of South Asia like Pakistan and Sri Lanka, also the Ghost Cities over there. They are counting on infrastructure projects to bail themselves out of the mess.

The same risky investment like Colombo is used to transport majority of Indian global transshipment. The only non performing investment is Hambatonta, which was meant to prop up Rajapaksa, and maybe a future naval base.

 

[Dungeness]

I am really curious how they think China's economy is only about infrastructure, we do export almost 2 trillion worth of goods you know.

Admittedly, Indian gov and their media have certainly done an excellent job on brainwashing.

 

[OnlyTheTruth]

I am really curious how they think China's economy is only about infrastructure, we do export almost 2 trillion worth of goods you know.


The same risky investment like Colombo is used to transport majority of Indian global transshipment. The only non performing investment is Hambatonta, which was meant to prop up Rajapaksa, and maybe a future naval base.

You aren't very bright, are you? When we talk of Chinese infrastructure projects we obviously refer to the GREENFIELD PROJECTS. By the way, the fraud Chinese anal-ysts managed to convince the hapless Sri Lankans that Hambantota Port would grow up to replace Singapore as the premier transshipment port of South and South East Asia.

 

[Han Patriot]

You aren't very bright, are you? When we talk of Chinese infrastructure projects we obviously refer to the GREENFIELD PROJECTS. By the way, the fraud Chinese anal-ysts managed to convince the hapless Sri Lankans that Hambantota Port would grow up to replace Singapore as the premier transshipment port of South and South East Asia.

And you think building a new terminal in Colombo port isn't greenfield? You think the Chinese are stupid, those ports are built under loan from Sri Lanka, they are paying interest on it. Look at the leverage we have over the new so called Pro-Indian SL government. We would have forgiven the interest had Rajapaksa been in power.

Colombo Port could rival Sg, but not Hambantonta, it was meant as a bribe for Rajapaksa and as a future naval base. The airport built could easily convert into an airbase. That's why you need to wait for the next elections.

 

[OnlyTheTruth]

Admittedly, Indian gov and their media have certainly done an excellent job on brainwashing.

I am really curious how they think China's economy is only about infrastructure, we do export almost 2 trillion worth of goods you know.

No one is denying that fact, but the sector has witnessed unprecedented meltdown due to falling prices and weakening demand both domestic and international. Your real growth rate is contracting, from 10.1 percent in 2010 to 6 percent in 2016. And don't forget that your economy is export oriented unlike ours which is based on domestic consumption.
So China urgently needed to give a fillip to its domestic manufacturing, hence all the investments in high risk sectors. The Chinese are desperate beyond imagination hence the pressure on India to join their infra projects like BRI and OBOR. BUT WE HAVE CAUGHT YOUR BLUFF.

 

[tw00tw00]

China Talks about Mars .. India ACTUALLY Reached There !

With a payload of only 15 kilograms, it carried only very rudimentary and primitive instruments. It had very little if any scientific value. It was just an expensive publicity stunt. The Chinese have a serious space program and a serious science program; they have no time for cheap stunts.


Here is what the Europeans had to say about India's little Mars adventure:
"They've kept it small. The payload weighs only about 15kg. Compare that with the complexity in the payload in Maven and that will explain a lot about the cost... Of course, that reduced complexity suggests it won't be as scientifically capable," says Prof Andrew Coates, who will be a principal investigator on Europe's Mars rover in 2018.


And here is what your own ex-ISRO chief said about the mission:
"Isro is embarking on an extravagant mission which at best can serve as a publicity stunt... When we send a spacecraft all the way to Mars, we should aim to get meaningful scientific results, not just launch a mission to show off...With such skeletal instruments on board a spacecraft travelling at altitudes varying from 380 and 80,000 km what meaningful science can be done is a big question mark," says G Madhavan Nair, former chief of the Indian Space Research Organisation

 

[OnlyTheTruth]

And you think building a new terminal in Colombo port isn't greenfield? You think the Chinese are stupid, those ports are built under loan from Sri Lanka, they are paying interest on it. Look at the leverage we have over the new so called Pro-Indian SL government. We would have forgiven the interest had Rajapaksa been in power.

Colombo Port could rival Sg, but not Hambantonta, it was meant as a bribe for Rajapaksa and as a future naval base. The airport built could easily convert into an airbase. That's why you need to wait for the next elections.

Alas, Rajapaksa overplayed his hand which led to his fall.

And you think building a new terminal in Colombo port isn't greenfield? You think the Chinese are stupid, those ports are built under loan from Sri Lanka, they are paying interest on it. Look at the leverage we have over the new so called Pro-Indian SL government. We would have forgiven the interest had Rajapaksa been in power.

Colombo Port could rival Sg, but not Hambantonta, it was meant as a bribe for Rajapaksa and as a future naval base. The airport built could easily convert into an airbase. That's why you need to wait for the next elections.

Crux of the matter still remains that you loaned out money to Sri Lanka for an unviable project, knowing well beforehand that you are selling them pipe dreams. Srilankan economy was already struggling when the loan was advanced and by the time they realised their folly China began mounting pressure to convert the DEBT to EQUITY.

This is how you colonize countries in the 21st century without violence or warfare. Military might is only for deterrence. Capitalist China is a imperialistic force in the garb of a Communist government.

Pakistan is gonna realise it very soon.

 

[Han Patriot]

Alas, Rajapaksa overplayed his hand which led to his fall.

Crux of the matter still remains that you loaned out money to Sri Lanka for an unviable project, knowing well beforehand that you are selling them pipe dreams. Srilankan economy was already struggling when the loan was advanced and by the time they realised their folly China began mounting pressure to convert the DEBT to EQUITY.

This is how you colonize countries in the 21st century without violence or warfare. Military might is only for deterrence. Capitalist China is a imperialistic force in the garb of a Communist government.

Pakistan is gonna realise it very soon.

It will be viable once there is a naval base. They can use the lease to repay the debt. The airport would also be viable as a dual use airport.

 

[Dungeness]

No one is denying that fact, but the sector has witnessed unprecedented meltdown due to falling prices and weakening demand both domestic and international. Your real growth rate is contracting, from 10.1 percent in 2010 to 6 percent in 2016. And don't forget that your economy is export oriented unlike ours which is based on domestic consumption.
So China urgently needed to give a fillip to its domestic manufacturing, hence all the investments in high risk sectors. The Chinese are desperate beyond imagination hence the pressure on India to join their infra projects like BRI and OBOR. BUT WE HAVE CAUGHT YOUR BLUFF.

China's economy growth may have lowered comparing to its hay days, but it still managed 6.9% growth in the past quarter which is much higher than what India could pull off at 6.1%, considering China's economy is 5 times of that of India, I think it was a remarkable feat. India's so called "domestic consumption based economy" is a meth, and there was not much quality consumption beyond basic food and clothing. ex. your passenger cars market is only 1/10 of China's, and your outbound tourist market is 1/5 of that of China in terms of headcount, and Indian tourists are very stingy compared to their Chinese counterpart. In short, you are dirty poor when it comes to domestic consumption. And don't forget, the majority of China's recent growth comes from consumption.