India still needs China's polysilicon （and Monocrystalline silicon）Technology

[seesonic]

@seesonic during early days contributed his photo to the Chinese museums like this. But he still kiss the Chinese rear even after they consider Afros equivalent to Chimps.

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OMG !
Is that your pic @seesonic. And which one? Left or Right? No wonder you hop from topic to topic.

BTW, @seesonic I am still waiting for you to identify what was wrong with those two sentences, grammatically speaking -- I mean English Grammar not Baboonish or Arabic Grammar.

Look at you, getting jealous over an APE.

The life of an ape is more valuable than the life of an Indian

 

[sinait]

Look at you, getting jealous over an APE.

The life of an ape is more valuable than the life of an Indian

This is their Higher Caste brother.
See, SAME COLOR.
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[Shamsher1990]

Look at you, getting jealous over an APE.

The life of an ape is more valuable than the life of an Indian

We all know who will be called an chimp if you and I were walking on the same street.

 

[Shamsher1990]

This is their Higher Caste brother.
See, SAME COLOR.
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What happened, monkey did have his banana today? Did it fall through the slanted chink in your bowl?

 

[Jackdaws]

We all know who will be called an chimp if you and I were walking on the same street.

Why would you even want to walk on the same street as him? Unless he was carrying your umbrella whilst it rained.

 

[UserUnknown2025]

INDIA SUPERPOWER 2012!!!!!!!!!

 

[AViet]

You think China invented the silicon Chip. Damn you must be smoking some high quality weed. There is not a single piece of revolutionary technology china have invented. Everything from the digital technology to communications to physics to materials to manufacturing processes are thanks to the west. You owe your entire success to the west. They were liberal enough to share their inventions with the rest of the world or you would be still farming potatoes.

Here is my reply . You no longer have to wait for it.

West owns a lot of technology theft from China too. Many inventions, with Western names tagged on, were actually invented in China, copied and perfected by the West. It is just a simple fact.

Regarding the institutions, the whole Western civilization would never exist like it is today if they had not copied the examination system from China back in 18th century.

Very likely that in 100 years, worldwide students will learn at school that America continent was found by Cheng Hwa, chess was invented in China and many other great inventions were by Chinese. Some can be true, some can be make-up. But the winner will always be the one who write the history books, so do not trust all the shits on media and books you reading today.

 

[Quibbler]

West owns a lot of technology theft from China too. Many inventions, with Western names tagged on, were actually invented in China, copied and perfected by the West. It is just a simple fact.

Regarding the institutions, the whole Western civilization would never exist like it is today if they had not copied the examination system from China back in 18th century.

Very likely that in 100 years, worldwide students will learn at school that America continent was found by Cheng Hwa, chess was invented in China and many other great inventions were by Chinese. Some can be true, some can be make-up. But the winner will always be the one who write the history books, so do not trust all the shits on media and books you reading today.

West has been good at theoretical physics astronomy i.e. the basis for modern sciences well before the 18th century. eg Galileo.

"Western civilization would never exist like it is today if they had not copied the examination system from China back in 18th century.". This sentence remains a conjecture. I would be very thankful if you could provide credible reading material on this. I have never really explored this point.

Agreed but the basis of high growth era has been the modern technologies developed by the west. You cant really compare Chess and the Internet on the basis of their effect on the human civilization. can you?.

Btw i am given to believe chess originated in India. You might want to cross check your facts.

And today if you list what are China's biggest achivements, they are mostly Economy and Infra related. This that were nurtured in the west. This is the point i am trying to make, not that China contributed nothing. But its contribution have been minuscule if you include the western context.

 

[sinait]

West has been good at theoretical physics astronomy i.e. the basis for modern sciences well before the 18th century. eg Galileo.

"Western civilization would never exist like it is today if they had not copied the examination system from China back in 18th century.". This sentence remains a conjecture. I would be very thankful if you could provide credible reading material on this. I have never really explored this point.

Agreed but the basis of high growth era has been the modern technologies developed by the west. You cant really compare Chess and the Internet on the basis of their effect on the human civilization. can you?.

Btw i am given to believe chess originated in India. You might want to cross check your facts.

And today if you list what are China's biggest achivements, they are mostly Economy and Infra related. This that were nurtured in the west. This is the point i am trying to make, not that China contributed nothing. But its contribution have been minuscule if you include the western context.

We may find out later a lot of discoveries are by the Chinese or the Chinese had a hand in it.
Example is this first engineer of Boeing only recently being credited after a century later.
https://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime...man-who-got-u-s-aircraft-giant-boeing-flying/
The Chinese Birdman Who Got U.S. Aircraft Giant Boeing Flying

It isn’t well known outside aviation circles that the first engineer at U.S. aircraft maker Boeing almost a century ago was a man from China, Wong Tsu – and his story is one that doesn’t sound possible in the current era of distrust between the two nations.

Iron that is crucial to the industrial revolution is invented in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_iron
The earliest cast-iron artifacts date to the 5th century BC, and were discovered by archaeologists in what is now modern Luhe County, Jiangsu in China.

https://www.english-online.at/history/industrial-revolution/industrial-revolution-manufacturing.htm
The Industrial Revolution could not have developed without coal and iron.

I would say China is a significant contributor to the world's modernization.
About Chess, some events were wrongly credited to India simply because the Western academics were not well versed in the Chinese language to research in depth.
Indians also have propensity to claim credits of others resulting in nonsense like they invented plastic surgery many thousand of years ago.
http://www.yutopian.com/chinesechess/history.html
Most people believe that Xiangqi and Shogi are variants of International Chess which was invented by the Indians in the 6th Century. This is simply not true. According to recent research, both Xiangqi and Backgammon evolved from an ancient Chinese game called Liubo that was invented some 3,500 years ago.
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[Quibbler]

Significant Yes. Comparable to the west no.

And China recently has had a spurt of nationalism claiming technologies and territories nowhere related to them as their own to support their "great rejuvenation" propaganda. These researches have little credibility outside CPC mouthpieces.

The most accepted theory is "Chess is believed to have originated in India sometime before the 7th century. The game was derived from the Indian game chaturanga, which is also the likely ancestor of the Eastern strategy games xiangqi, janggi, and shogi."

We may find out later a lot of discoveries are by the Chinese or the Chinese had a hand in it.
Example is this first engineer of Boeing only recently being credited after a century later.
https://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime...man-who-got-u-s-aircraft-giant-boeing-flying/
The Chinese Birdman Who Got U.S. Aircraft Giant Boeing Flying

It isn’t well known outside aviation circles that the first engineer at U.S. aircraft maker Boeing almost a century ago was a man from China, Wong Tsu – and his story is one that doesn’t sound possible in the current era of distrust between the two nations.

Iron that is crucial to the industrial revolution is invented in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cast_iron
The earliest cast-iron artifacts date to the 5th century BC, and were discovered by archaeologists in what is now modern Luhe County, Jiangsu in China.

https://www.english-online.at/history/industrial-revolution/industrial-revolution-manufacturing.htm
The Industrial Revolution could not have developed without coal and iron.

I would say China is a significant contributor to the world's modernization.
About Chess, some events were wrongly credited to India simply because the Western academics were not well versed in the Chinese language to research in depth.
Indians also have propensity to claim credits of others resulting in nonsense like they invented plastic surgery many thousand of years ago.
http://www.yutopian.com/chinesechess/history.html
Most people believe that Xiangqi and Shogi are variants of International Chess which was invented by the Indians in the 6th Century. This is simply not true. According to recent research, both Xiangqi and Backgammon evolved from an ancient Chinese game called Liubo that was invented some 3,500 years ago.
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[sinait]

Significant Yes. Comparable to the west no.

And China recently has had a spurt of nationalism claiming technologies and territories nowhere related to them as their own to support their "great rejuvenation" propaganda. These researches have little credibility outside CPC mouthpieces.

The most accepted theory is "Chess is believed to have originated in India sometime before the 7th century. The game was derived from the Indian game chaturanga, which is also the likely ancestor of the Eastern strategy games xiangqi, janggi, and shogi."

Should have added "The most accepted theory by WESTERN academics".
Credit was given to India simply because India was a colony of the British.
Early versions of Wiki have ONLY 1 version of the origin of Chess.
But more and more are questioning the veracity of this statement.
And now we have this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chess
The history of chess can be traced back nearly 1500 years, although the earliest origins are uncertain. The earliest predecessor of the game probably originated in India, before the 6th century AD; a minority of historians believe the game originated in China.

Xiangqi is also more realistic with opposing forces divided by a river border.
Anyway I am not here to debate the origin of Chess.
More discoveries are emerging of the contributions made by China.
The last 100 years are just a blip in the 5000 years of Chinese civilization.
The contributions to technology from China are coming fast and furious.
Lets see what's in store for the next 100 years.
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[Quibbler]

Should have added "The most accepted theory by WESTERN academics".
Credit was given to India simply because India was a colony of the British.
Early versions of Wiki have ONLY 1 version of the origin of Chess.
But more and more are questioning the veracity of this statement.
And now we have this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_chess
The history of chess can be traced back nearly 1500 years, although the earliest origins are uncertain. The earliest predecessor of the game probably originated in India, before the 6th century AD; a minority of historians believe the game originated in China.

Xiangqi is also more realistic with opposing forces divided by a river border.
Anyway I am not here to debate the origin of Chess.
More discoveries are emerging of the contributions made by China.
The last 100 years are just a blip in the 5000 years of Chinese civilization.
The contributions to technology from China are coming fast and furious.
Lets see what's in store for the next 100 years.
.

Hey man. I am not here to debate what you believe. Do something worthwhile in the modern world and you wont have to harp on your supposed historical heritage 5000 years ago.

You just repeated what is said - most academics other than those affiliated to CPC mouthpieces believe chess originated in India, hence the higher probability of it being true. Either that or China has also invented the time machine and is spending you back in time. Because anything before 1500 AD has at least a bit of guesswork and intuition in it.

 

[sinait]

Hey man. I am not here to debate what you believe. Do something worthwhile in the modern world and you wont have to harp on your supposed historical heritage 5000 years ago.

You just repeated what is said - most academics other than those affiliated to CPC mouthpieces believe chess originated in India, hence the higher probability of it being true. Either that or China has also invented the time machine and is spending you back in time. Because anything before 1500 AD has at least a bit of guesswork and intuition in it.

I agree, past contributions though important to know, its the present that matters.
So far most worthwhile present contributions from India,
GANG RAPE,
Open Defecation,
BOBs and VAGANA.
etc etc.

From China, they have made contributions to the following.
Fastest Super Computer for the past 6 years continuously till this June 2018.
Quantum Communication.
High Speed Train.
Leader in Artificial Intelligence.
Ultra-high-voltage electricity transmission
Solar Power.
Bike Sharing.
Mobile payment and Cashless shopping.
Infrastructure Building(Bridges)
etc etc.
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[SBUS-CXK]

What happened, monkey did have his banana today? Did it fall through the slanted chink in your bowl?

Hey man. I am not here to debate what you believe. Do something worthwhile in the modern world and you wont have to harp on your supposed historical heritage 5000 years ago.

You just repeated what is said - most academics other than those affiliated to CPC mouthpieces believe chess originated in India, hence the higher probability of it being true. Either that or China has also invented the time machine and is spending you back in time. Because anything before 1500 AD has at least a bit of guesswork and intuition in it.

Look, actually, I am very friendly to India.
Of course, you have been trying to change the topic. Is it necessary to cover up India's incompetence and backwardness?

 

[Shamsher1990]

Quantum Communication.

Wrong. The so called quantum communication is actually a quantum key distribution mechanism in quantum cryptography, it has existed way before chinese test of so called quantum satellite and it was tested in past as well.

High Speed Train.

Again wrong. Chinese HSR is built on technology acquited from european HSR companies. Japan has been the real pioneer in HSR.

Leader in Artificial Intelligence.

Wrong again. The real breakthrough in what you call 'AI' actually came from Canada. The current hype of AI breakthrough is due to deep-learning. Again, it is based on seminal work done in 2012 by Alex Krizhevsky of Geoffrey E. Hinton group in University of Toronto on something called as AlexNet. Before this the field of Deep Learning was not exactly very popular. All the current burst of activity in 'AI' and Deep Learning comes from his work.

https://papers.nips.cc/paper/4824-i...n-with-deep-convolutional-neural-networks.pdf

Not just that, the next big thing in AI and deep learing is again coming from Geoffrey E. Hinton. It is called Capsule Networks.



your remaining claims are not even worthy of being pointed out.