India snubs China, to attend Nobel ceremony

[WAR-rior]

What da heck is going on here?

 

[BigTree.CN]

I dont see where the snub is....

Should we not be attending just because of Chinese threats?

And I would like it if someone could argue why attending a neutral world organizations ceremony is bad.....Just because China said so and has a vested interest?
We arent exactly an "Ally", so surprise shouldnt be a reaction to this news....
Besides...being a democracy, India needs to show its commitment to the political ideology that has binded this multi-ethnic country together...

In addition....
I have a feeling that the Indian newspapers have exaggerated China's reaction, but if not, the part about "there will be consequences" is rather arrogant....
There is no difference then between the bully (US) that gave Pakistan a "deal they could not refuse" and China that is claimed to be the beacon of the developing world treating other nations respectfully...

I for one dont think this shouldnt affect Indo-China relations....We cannot just promote our relationship with China at the cost of other nations...China has to understand that....
Besides....if the Taiwan issue has not mitigated the trade between China and US....Why should this ceremony affect Indo-China relations....I hope the Chinese are smarter than this (Im quite sure).

China should feel ok after India stabs her in public, i believe that is what you are trying to convey.

 

[WAR-rior]

stabs her ?

let me correct u with the meaning of stabbing !

If india says or promises we wont attend Nobel prize ceremony and the attend it......thats called stabbing ?

did the above scenario ever happened ?

answer it and u are thru ! otherwise u are nothing but only propaganda.....agree ?

 

[CardSharp]

Lets be honest....

The VETO is China's till the UN agrees to do so....It is because the world agrees that China deserves a seat....something it received by gods good grace at a time when China was nowhere deserving of one unlike its current form...

Similarly, India has reached a level where enough of the world thinks India is in a deserving position to be included....
At the the end of the day....the UN is a consensus of the world opinion...is it not?

So China can Veto our demand, but that will not change the world's opinion nor the new power dynamics...
It will only prove to the world that China is misusing its veto....something the US is often accused of....

Except in this case, the P5 minus China backs our claim....

So please dont try to be arrogant and make it seem like India will bend over backwards for China to get this.....

I will quote a rather famous comedian to sum up my thought...
"Indians and Chinese can never be in business together.....The Chinese cant give a bargain and Indians cant live without one"...

Here's my arrogant prediction. The reform process will drag on for at least another 5 years or so. The whole time, the west will wave this trinket in front of India to get it to do as it is told and when India finally gets a seat it will be a non-veto permanent seat in a batch with several other countries in a much expanded UNSC, where a regular (non-veto) seat will mean a hell of a lot less than it does even now.




and this is assume it happens at all.

 

[Tin Man]

Dude......lol......no one said "stab". The word is "snub". This might be good time to break out that new dictionary of yours eh?

 

[BigTree.CN]

stabs her ?

let me correct u with the meaning of stabbing !

If india says or promises we wont attend Nobel prize ceremony and the attend it......thats called stabbing ?
did the above scenario ever happened ?

answer it and u are thru ! otherwise u are nothing but only propaganda.....agree ?

I believe that is what you call backstabbing.

 

[TenjikuKensei]

This entire issue seems hugely blown out of of proportion.

 

[TenjikuKensei]

I believe that is what you call backstabbing.

I cant speak for him, but I think he made a typo. I realized it when I read his post cos it made no sense.

It must have been "If india does not say or promise we wont attend Nobel prize ceremony and the attend it......thats called stabbing ?"


I might be wrong..but..otherwise the post doesn't make sense.

Warrior can clarify better than me.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

I believe that is what you call backstabbing.

What?This isnt like a huge thing. India being there doesnt make a difference, It means nothing. It will be forgotten in like less then an month.

 

[Bang Galore]

China should feel ok after India stabs her in public, i believe that is what you are trying to convey.

I'm kind of surprised at some of the reactions from Chinese members here. Most of them don't like India including two who have recently converted to that view and yet expect India to go out of its way for China.

Going to a Nobel prize ceremony is normal, deciding not to go is a snub to the hosts & would require extreme national interest to be at stake. I don't see that to be the case here. Why on earth should India go out of its way for a country which didn't care about Indian sensitivities on the stapled Kashmir visa issue or while denying visa to a serving General of the Indian army or indeed as wikileaks shows, on sanctions against terrorist organisations?

Weird then that so many find it surprising that India might take the stand it supposedly has. That is not unexpected, the opposite would have been.

 

[great]

Here's my arrogant prediction. The reform process will drag on for at least another 5 years or so. The whole time, the west will wave this trinket in front of India to get it to do as it is told and when India finally gets a seat it will be a non-veto permanent seat in a batch with several other countries in a much expanded UNSC, where a regular (non-veto) seat will mean a hell of a lot less than it does even now.




and this is assume it happens at all.

I'll too give you an arrogant answer. Who cares what you think. Get going.

 

[third eye]

Here's my arrogant prediction. The reform process will drag on for at least another 5 years or so. The whole time, the west will wave this trinket in front of India to get it to do as it is told and when India finally gets a seat it will be a non-veto permanent seat in a batch with several other countries in a much expanded UNSC, where a regular (non-veto) seat will mean a hell of a lot less than it does even now.




and this is assume it happens at all.

This is not far from the truth.

India is aware of this and therefore shall go ahead & do what suits its own national interests.

Meanwhile I feel China is needlessly exposing a soft underbelly by asking countries not to attend the ceremony.It would have been best to ignore the whole incident & it would pass with time. By wanting to see things only in Black or white it is ignoring the shades of Grey that do occur all the time.

 

[CardSharp]

This is not far from the truth.

India is aware of this and therefore shall go ahead & do what suits its own national interests.

The India government is aware of this but none of the other members here are smart enough to figure out it or honest enough to admit it.

Meanwhile I feel China is needlessly exposing a soft underbelly by asking countries not to attend the ceremony.It would have been best to ignore the whole incident & it would pass with time. By wanting to see things only in Black or white it is ignoring the shades of Grey that do occur all the time.

It is a nascent demonstration of world opinion behind China. This, in a world which has always been hostile more or less.

 

[WAR-rior]

Dude......lol......no one said "stab". The word is "snub". This might be good time to break out that new dictionary of yours eh?

He He!

R u sure what u said just now ?

Plz refer post # 92

it will clear all doubts !

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I'm kind of surprised at some of the reactions from Chinese members here. Most of them don't like India including two who have recently converted to that view and yet expect India to go out of its way for China.

You just answered your own question. Because we do not like India, and this action was just an unsurprising continuation of a typical mentality.

Thanks for the other thread by the way.