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‘India should declare Romas as national minority of Indian origin’

New Delhi should declare Roms as a national minority of Indian origin, as it has nothing to lose by admitting that these are people of Indian descent, feels Jovan Damjanovic the president of the World Roma Organisation- Rromanipen.

The Roma are gypsies who are believed to trace their origin to nomadic communities like the Dom, Banjara, Gujjar, Sansi, Chauhan and Sikligar from the North West parts of India.

Damjanovic who is in the Capital to attend a three-day conference on the international Roma community being organised by the Indian Council for Cultural Relations (ICCR) in collaboration with the Antar Rashtriya Sahayog Parishad Bharat (ARSPB) told Hindustan Times in an exclusive interview that recognition from the Indian authorities will be the first step towards countering the negative perceptions about the Roms.

Mainly concentrated in Central, Eastern and Southern parts of Europe, the Roms are counted among the most discriminated people in the world and considered as people with criminal propensity.

“We are expecting after all these years India should recognise the Roms as Indian national minority. There is anthropological and physical evidence that we belong to India. Indians could win at cultural, economical and political level by accepting the origins of these 12-15 million people,” Damjanovic told HT.

Damjanovic who has been a Minister Without Portfolio, in the Government of Serbia was critical of the European Union for failing to stem the discrimination faced by the Roms in several countries, including forced eviction.

“European countries have double standards, while they welcome refugees from one country, they are treating Roma people in a different way. They are not making a mistake; they are doing it on purpose. All member states of the UN are compelled to host refugees from any country, but for Roma the rules are different,” he said.

On the allegations that Roma are not keen on assimilation and integration, and prefer to remain in ghettos and on the margins, he said it is a deliberate attempt at creating misinformation about the community. “All Roms are models of integration everywhere they are given an opportunity, the truth is that we are excluded. We have the Indian spirit of respect and integration.”

To change the perceptions about Roms and to create an atmosphere of inclusion, where equal rights can be afforded to the community, Damjanovic said governments and the international community has to treat them seriously as nation of culture and not as a social problem.

“We need to open the door for dialogue, leading to the solution within framework of existing legal provisions. We also need patience, commitment and political will,” he underlined.

The three-day conference being inaugurated by External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj on February 12 is aimed at connecting the Roms with sister communities in India especially in the states like Rajasthan and Punjab.

The conference seeks to study political, social and economic challenges being faced by the Roma community in different countries and to examine existing constitutional safeguards available to them; to review the existing scholarly studies and literature on the connections of Roma with India and for creating awareness within India about them and to encourage more research about Roma/Sinti cultural roots in renowned institutions in India.

There is also a proposal to set up scholarships for Roma students for their higher studies in India and to re-establish cultural links and promote cultural studies among the Roma youth spread across many countries.

“India is committed to all people of Indian origin, we celebrate their cultural links. Such conferences help us to understand and create awareness,” Ambassador C Rajasekhar, director general of ICCR said.

In India conferences on the Roma people have been held in the past as well; the first Roma conference was organised in1976 in Chandigarh which was attended by the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi; she also inaugurated in 1983 the International Roma Cultural Festival. In February 2001, 33 Roma scholars and representatives from 12 countries attended a conference where they interacted with former PM Atal Bihari Vajpayee.
Roma's :disagree::nono:
Pandithji, displaced kashmiri pandiths are living under tin sheets in Delhi, first they need to be given minority status in India first, no need to take the burden of the world.
Roma's may have been originated from today's Pakistan and the indian states of Rajasthan, Punjab, & Gujarat they migrated to far off places in search of refuge and work as there was a lot of invasions in this part of the world, they have changed a lot over the years, they don't have the concept of nationality, they are tribal migrants, that don't like to stay in a place, they are always on the move, India has a lot of problems and we are not able to uplift our own poor there is no need for extra burden, and Roma's are mainly Muslims so as they mainly originated from Pakistan also they should be given special status in pakistan and not India.

Roma's should uplift themselves as they have more opportunities in EU than in India and Pakistan,

The only help India can help them is that to speak to EU about the discrimination and human rights abuse of Roma population, we should force the EU to take adequate measures for their upliftment.
 
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Then declare all humans as African minority .


Also Pakistan , Bangladesh was part of British India so they are citizens of those countries too by default .
 
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I would WELCOME that move, How many of you had Interactions with Romas?They were killed by White Europeans , Hitler and continuously persecuted by Whites in Europe(This palls in shame in front of Bengal Famine) . I am not a kind person.but whenever it comes to my brethren and sisters, then there is no Compromise!
So f*ck you WHITE MAN OVER AND OVER AGAIN!

Roma's :disagree::nono:
Pandithji, displaced kashmiri pandiths are living under tin sheets in Delhi, first they need to be given minority status in India first, no need to take the burden of the world.
Roma's may have been originated from today's Pakistan and the indian states of Rajasthan, Punjab, & Gujarat they migrated to far off places in search of refuge and work as there was a lot of invasions in this part of the world, they have changed a lot over the years, they don't have the concept of nationality, they are tribal migrants, that don't like to stay in a place, they are always on the move, India has a lot of problems and we are not able to uplift our own poor there is no need for extra burden, and Roma's are mainly Muslims so as they mainly originated from Pakistan also they should be given special status in pakistan and not India.

Roma's should uplift themselves as they have more opportunities in EU than in India and Pakistan,

The only help India can help them is that to speak to EU about the discrimination and human rights abuse of Roma population, we should force the EU to take adequate measures for their upliftment.
You are totally Wrong! Thinking they get the same thing as White EU Citizens! forget Kashmiris! Can you even speak their language?

Then declare all humans as African minority .


Also Pakistan , Bangladesh was part of British India so they are citizens of those countries too by default .
Why not declare Pakistanis and all Mullahs as same as us? STOP being a IDIOT! and think my bro(respectfully i urge).
 
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I would WELCOME that move, How many of you had Interactions with Romas?They were killed by White Europeans , Hitler and continuously persecuted by Whites in Europe(This palls in shame in front of Bengal Famine) . I am not a kind person.but whenever it comes to my brethren and sisters, then there is no Compromise!
So f*ck you WHITE MAN OVER AND OVER AGAIN!


You are totally Wrong! Thinking they get the same thing as White EU Citizens! forget Kashmiris! Can you even speak their language?


Why not declare Pakistanis and all Mullahs as same as us? STOP being a IDIOT! and think my bro(respectfully i urge).
I cannot speak kashmiri, but they are our country men, I cannot forget them, I don't care about others who are not Indians, so how many languages can you speak, do you know Kannada, Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu, tulu, konkani,Marathi, oriya, bengali, mithili, nepali(who speak in darjiling),gond, naga, manipuri, arunachal has 30 languages, so how many languages can you speak if you cannot speak their are you not going consider them as Indian?, even though I may know a language or not I consider who ever lives within the border of our country are Indians.
There are a lot of poor and homeless, do you know India has 20 crores indian gypsies first we should improve their living condition, and stop worrying about the world, when our *** is on the stove we need not try to save others, Roma's have to fight for themselves.
We know that white man is a curse, so we need not bang our head and injure our head for unnecessary reasons, remaining sane is the path to success.
 
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Even if their roots to India were established to be accurate, what purpose is it going to serve anyway?

I think it is only going to hurt them badly if they were officially identified as foreigners despite living in Europe for millennia.

In fact, they are going to be painted as targets if Europe were ever to revert to mass persecutions!
 
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I cannot speak kashmiri, but they are our country men, I cannot forget them, I don't care about others who are not Indians, so how many languages can you speak, do you know Kannada, Tamil, Malayalam, Telugu, tulu, konkani,Marathi, oriya, bengali, mithili, nepali(who speak in darjiling),gond, naga, manipuri, arunachal has 30 languages, so how many languages can you speak if you cannot speak their are you not going consider them as Indian?, even though I may know a language or not I consider who ever lives within the border of our country are Indians.
There are a lot of poor and homeless, do you know India has 20 crores indian gypsies first we should improve their living condition, and stop worrying about the world, when our *** is on the stove we need not try to save others, Roma's have to fight for themselves.
We know that white man is a curse, so we need not bang our head and injure our head for unnecessary reasons, remaining sane is the path to success.
I agree, with your views but when we are busy infiltrating ourselves with bangladeshis,we sure can help them.
 
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I would whole heartedly support a repatriation also.It would sadden me to see them go but i think it would be for the better.

@Vauban
 
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I would whole heartedly support a repatriation also.It would sadden me to see them go but i think it would be for the better.

@Vauban

It wouldn't sadden me really,they are (sorry if i hurt someone) by far the most useless group of people i've ever seen in my life. They don't integrate (even if you try as much as you can),they steal,steal,steal,steal and........ steal.
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@flamer84 Please tell me it is very cheap to build a palace in Romania... haven't you heard of Buzescu ?

 
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No. The only solution is giving them the land they deserve. Divide the country accordingly. These people are living there for 1000s of years.

It wouldn't sadden me really,they are (sorry if i hurt someone) by far the most useless group of people i've ever seen in my life. They don't integrate (even if you try as much as you can),they steal,steal,steal,steal and........ steal.
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@flamer84 Please tell me it is very cheap to build a palace in Romania... haven't you heard of Buzescu ?

People are forced to steal when they don't get opportunities in their own country. Reservation is what they need.
 
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It wouldn't sadden me really,they are (sorry if i hurt someone) by far the most useless group of people i've ever seen in my life. They don't integrate (even if you try as much as you can),they steal,steal,steal,steal and........ steal.
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@flamer84 Please tell me it is very cheap to build a palace in Romania... haven't you heard of Buzescu ?


I was being sarcastic over the sad part.

Awkard thing about those ugly gypsie palaces,they don't pay electricity bills for them.Every couple of months the police comes,disconects them,they arrest some men,they throw their children infront,scre,,cry.Than they steal electricity again....rince and repeat.

About the racism part,i don't see nobody harping at Japan for not taking in foreigners....only Europe has to commit suicide according to these hypocrites.

Japan, Teflon Nation - The Unz Review

No. The only solution is giving them the land they deserve. Divide the country accordingly. These people are living there for 1000s of years.

The only land they will ever see from a European country is the one they'll be burried in if they try something funny.
 
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It wouldn't sadden me really,they are (sorry if i hurt someone) by far the most useless group of people i've ever seen in my life. They don't integrate (even if you try as much as you can),they steal,steal,steal,steal and........ steal.
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@flamer84 Please tell me it is very cheap to build a palace in Romania... haven't you heard of Buzescu ?


Why not induct the lot of them in the French Foreign Legion ? :azn:

Soon my Romanian brother @flamer84 and myself would be following up to join the Legion to protect the Fifth Republic ! :smokin:

They better serve some good Fish and Chips in the Legion though ! :D
 
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The only land they will ever see from a European country is the one they'll be burried in if they try something funny.
Its their land. Its sickening to see your racist posts, especially when you consider yourself progressive.

About the racism part,i don't see nobody harping at Japan for not taking in foreigners....only Europe has to commit suicide according to these hypocrites.
They arn't foreigners. They are living there for 1000s of years. The way you are describing them, no human does like that for no reason, they are victims of racism.
 
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Its their land. Its sickening to see your racist posts, especially when you consider yourself progressive.


They arn't foreigners. They are living there for 1000s of years. The way you are describing them, no human does like that for no reason, they are victims of racism.


Stop being dense.They had done nothing for that land other than leeching from others .They haven't contributed to society,they haven't fought for it,they haven't built anything.Carve land from India for 200 million muslims if you feel generous.And ,they entered Europe 6-700 years ago brought by the Ottomans.

Anyway,rant all you want,they will get a big ,fat,NOTHING.About the racist posts,pls show one.....anything i stated about them it's the truth,plenty of resources have been wasted allready trying to integrate them.It's all in vain,the fault lies with them,not with us.

Anyway,they're not capable of taking a bath,nevermind keep a state functioning,lol.
 
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