India: Shanghai Electric supplying 40,000 MW power plant equipment to India

[Gnimgnay]

I own some stocks in BHEL and I see it as a bad investment.

Why not buy actual gold since actual gold is available in India? They are better choice.

 

[harpoon]

Ya just do not bring in the Lankan case here, they killed an entire race and you want me and other humans to just forget it. if you want to discus any thing related to this thread I am ready.
Don't try to fu#k up with me by making me loose my cool.

Chill dude..just saying that as you cannot forget what Lankans did there are people up north who suffered at the hands of Chinese and will be greatly offended if some one from far away advises on how a friend can be made out of foe like Chinese.

I don't think China sees this way. The attitude of China is easy to explain. China is the most pratical country in the world, which is to say money rules all. China wants to work with other BRICS members, since we share common interests.

I hope India people stay alert to media and western infiltrators. Only developed countries don't want to see cooperation between India and China. They have already burried a lot of conflict seeds and let's don't water them.

China and India see this clearly. If there would be a war between China and India, no matter what the result is, both countries are losers and winner is US.

Thanks for the sweet talk..but your support for Pakistan including its nuke program and your systematic meddling in our backyard speaks of something else.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

China sees themselves as the future super power and the leader of Asia and they know that India is the only country standing in their way for doing so. So they will do whatever they can to harm our interests, with or without Aksai Chin.

No denying Chinese are seeking a level of dominance in their region and South Asia as well.

But they certainly don't perceive us as such a high level of threat, we might probably be 5th on their list of threatening nations.

The major problem they face when it comes to India, is competition for resources.


Chinese Perceptions of Traditional and Nontraditional Security Threats

 

[ashokdeiva]

Chill dude..just saying that as you cannot forget what Lankans did there are people up north who suffered at the hands of Chinese and will be greatly offended if some one from far away advises on how a friend can be made out of foe like Chinese.

The people in North suffered at the hands of Invading Chinese Army because we had a idiot as a PM who provoked them to attack us. The people in the North should realize that the mistake was ours because the one who provoked the PRC was our PM.

Thanks for the sweet talk..but your support for Pakistan including its nuke program and your systematic meddling in our backyard speaks of something else.

and if we respond to a person who comes with open arms and full of friendship and win win attitude is like what you have posted, then expect another Chinese Dragon out of this friend too.
He is not responsible for what his government decides and so are you. SO the first step towards friendship beings with people to people relationship and please do not piss him off.

Why not buy actual gold since actual gold is available in India? They are better choice.

Right now i have a 30 % investment in Gold on my portfolio and I can not go beyond that because of the risk involved, but if you sugest Gold is a better option, please explain me in a seperate mail to ashokdeiva@gmail.com.
I'll be happy to hear from you.

 

[Gnimgnay]

Thanks for the sweet talk..but your support for Pakistan including its nuke program and your systematic meddling in our backyard speaks of something else.

Well, we are both meddling in each other's backyard and I d say a sort of balance has already been achieved. These conflicts, like I said in my posters, were left by western countries deliberately. I don't think it's necessary to struggle at those complicated problems which are almost insolvable given current situation. It is much more important to cooperate and help each other's economy, promote people's life quality.

 

[ashokdeiva]

Well, we are both meddling in each other's backyard and I d say a sort of balance has already been achieved. These conflicts, like I said in my posters, were left by western countries deliberately. I don't think it's necessary to struggle at those complicated problems which are almost insolvable given current situation. It is much more important to cooperate and help each other's economy, promote people's life quality.

CAN NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE on what you have written, all we now need is some open mindedness and some rational thinking rather than decessions based on fear of war.

 

[Gnimgnay]

The people in North suffered at the hands of Invading Chinese Army because we had a idiot as a PM who provoked them to attack us. The people in the North should realize that the mistake was ours because the one who provoked the PRC was our PM.


and if we respond to a person who comes with open arms and fool of friendship and win win attitude is like what you have posted, then expect another Chinese Dragon out of this friend too.
He is not responsible for what his government decides and so are you. SO the first step towards friendship beings with people to people relationship and please do not piss him off.


Right now i have a 30 % investment in Gold on my portfolio and I can not go beyond that because of the risk involved, but if you sugest Gold is a better option, please explain me in a seperate mail to ashokdeiva@gmail.com.
I'll be happy to hear from you.

Wow, thank you for your supportive attitude. The majority of Indian people I have met are pretty wise and nice.
About the historical northen India conflicts, pakistan problem, etc, we have to move forward and let it aside. Nothing is more important than actual better salary, nicer house and more comfortable life of our people. Investment and good investment environment are crucial in these matters.
Back to the thread, it is nice of the investment of Shanghai Electrical, which provides jobs for local Indian people and benefit Chinese company. But it also mentioned the unclarity of Indian investment environment. The information of India is very limited in China. How to avoid the rioting area (I have heard of Maoist)? Where to find the investment oppotunities? Does Indian policy encourage Chinese investment? There are a lot of mysteries.
Comparing to experienced western investors, Chinese investors may have spare money but less investment skills. They lack of the ability to investigate and understand foreign investment environment. Perhaps Indian local government, like a province/city/ villiage, can promote them in China to release more infomation.

 

[ashokdeiva]

Wow, thank you for your supportive attitude. The majority of Indian people I have met are pretty wise and nice.
About the historical northen India conflicts, pakistan problem, etc, we have to move forward and let it aside. Nothing is more important than actual better salary, nicer house and more comfortable life of our people. Investment and good investment environment are crucial in these matters.
Back to the thread, it is nice of the investment of Shanghai Electrical, which provides jobs for local Indian people and benefit Chinese company. But it also mentioned the unclarity of Indian investment environment. The information of India is very limited in China. How to avoid the rioting area (I have heard of Maoist)? Where to find the investment oppotunities? Does Indian policy encourage Chinese investment? There are a lot of mysteries.
Comparing to experienced western investors, Chinese investors may have spare money but less investment skills. They lack of the ability to investigate and understand foreign investment environment. Perhaps Indian local government, like a province/city/ villiage, can promote them in China to release more infomation.

Not the entire of INDIA is affected with Maoist, only eastern states like BIHAR, JARKAND are affected by the maoist.
Chinese companise like Huawei are already growing fast in INDIA.
GUJARATH, TAMIL NADU, KARNATAKA, MAHARASHTRA are good states where CHINESE COMPANIES CAN SET THEIR BASE for growth

 

[ahfatzia]

It is hypocritical to talk about the formation of BRICS is a company of one member country can not invest in another member country. The best way to bind BRICS together is to have commercial interests within the member nations, the more the better. All members have to expect that and welcome that as well.

As for the conflicts between India and China the best solution, perhaps, is to have more intertwine commercial and people exchanges with each other. Let the future generations solve the border issues. Believe me when both have so many of their own companies and people in the others territory, how can they bomb each. In fact their friendship probably grow because of that.

It wouldn't be surprised that globalization deter major wars in the future.

 

[danger007]

Ya just do not bring in the Lankan case here, they killed an entire race and you want me and other humans to just forget it. if you want to discus any thing related to this thread I am ready.
Don't try to fu#k up with me by making me loose my cool.


I own some stocks in BHEL and I see it as a bad investment.

why we can't see you other than china and India related threads why????? What ever you are thinking, i would like to share my point.....i heared mostly Chinese industries will use Chinese labours engineers(in foriegn countries) ......less percentage of employ's will recruite from India. There are more disadvantages over advantages, our domestic Industries will be effected, our amount their growth....If we move for JV that can helpful to bring critical technologies to India. I didn't get your point. How shares in BHEL are bad????? It is a gud and reputed industry....does you have shares in BHEL??? He is praising their company and you are criticising our company for what??? I do like some independent attitudes instead of pro to some others.

 

[Gnimgnay]

why we can't see you other than china and India related threads why????? What ever you are thinking, i would like to share my point.....i heared mostly Chinese industries will use Chinese labours engineers(in foriegn countries) ......less percentage of employ's will recruite from India. There are more disadvantages over advantages, our domestic Industries will be effected, our amount their growth....If we move for JV that can helpful to bring critical technologies to India. I didn't get your point. How shares in BHEL are bad????? It is a gud and reputed industry....does you have shares in BHEL??? He is praising their company and you are criticising our company for what??? I do like some independent attitudes instead of pro to some others.

Well, I don't think Chinese companies can hire more Chinese engineers in India. The cost of hiring a Chinese engineer with English skill and relocating him to India is way too expensive. Firstly, the language problem. Secondly, forgive me but it is the truth, due to the limited India information, Chinese mid-incoming people considers India as an undeveloped country and don't want to relocate there. To the contrary, Indian engineers cost less and are properly educated. I don't see why they hire more Chinese engineers there.
Besides, I think Indian government can set policies to encourage foreign companies to hire Indian.
As for the damage to Indian companies, I think introducing competition is not a bad idea. When China introduced western companies, many domestic companies bankcrupted. But those survived are becoming the competitors at the global stage.
My last point is there is no barricade for Indian companies to develop in China. I knew there were many huge Indian software companies in Beijing and Hangzhou. We welcome them to bring us the job oppotunities and their business.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

why we can't see you other than china and India related threads why????? What ever you are thinking, i would like to share my point.....i heared mostly Chinese industries will use Chinese labours engineers(in foriegn countries) ......less percentage of employ's will recruite from India. There are more disadvantages over advantages, our domestic Industries will be effected, our amount their growth....If we move for JV that can helpful to bring critical technologies to India. I didn't get your point. How shares in BHEL are bad????? It is a gud and reputed industry....does you have shares in BHEL??? He is praising their company and you are criticising our company for what??? I do like some independent attitudes instead of pro to some others.

China uses Chinese technicians to train Indian technicians. This is because being a technician isn't just about having a degree, it's about having on the job experience. Some of the guys in China have been working on power, electronics, telecom, etc. for decades. They know what they're doing, while many Indian technicians have much less experience or even no experience, and have to be trained on the job.

For actual engineers, the big problem is language. Most Chinese engineers at the BS level (99%) have horrendous English... my English is because I'm writing papers all the time in the US. Indian BS level engineers have native English writing and are just as competent.

 

[Sasquatch]

Business don't know why politics have to be brought into this.

 

[punjabimunda]

why we can't see you other than china and India related threads why????? What ever you are thinking, i would like to share my point.....i heared mostly Chinese industries will use Chinese labours engineers(in foriegn countries) ......less percentage of employ's will recruite from India. There are more disadvantages over advantages, our domestic Industries will be effected, our amount their growth....If we move for JV that can helpful to bring critical technologies to India. I didn't get your point. How shares in BHEL are bad????? It is a gud and reputed industry....does you have shares in BHEL??? He is praising their company and you are criticising our company for what??? I do like some independent attitudes instead of pro to some others.

dude what ur saying doesnt make any economic sence. chinese companies have invested billions into india. they r building railways/townships in india and much more. india inreturn has also invested billions. tata and suzlon have billion dollar plants in their cities which employ indians too. investment done in india and china are always good for both doesnt matter which labourers are employed. every company has its own ways to manufacture stuff and initially native labourers are needed to train new labourers.

 

[Fanling Monk]

Business don't know why politics have to be brought into this.

With no disrespects, while the Chinese are a people of money(business) but the Indians are a people of talks(politics). LOL.

So when these two come together, they do both.