India Seeks Armed U.S. Predator Avenger Drones in Challenge to Pakistan

[rocket booster]

banao mazaak banao lekin yaad rakhna kabhi hamari bhi wakt aa jayga

Lol don't worry we don't allow bombing on our land and trade our sovereignty for few bucks. So you won't have chance.

 

[Pandora]

ya, with love from your neighbors .. so much for your brotherhood.
Four Pakistani soldiers killed in Afghan rocket attack: ISPR - The Express Tribune
7 injured as Iranian border guards fire rockets in Balochistan's Kech - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

atleast there is not firing between india and china or india and nepal. look at your country. every neighboring country of Pakistan hate your country.

Have you been to afghanistan you screwed up retard? Those people eat non muslims like you for dinner so stop celebrating their punny victories. As for iran i doubt that Mullahs in top brass have got much love for Sunni majority country. So in short we are surrounded by extremists from all sides. Last time i checked iran was a country which had economic sanctions from every major power in the world so i doubt that you are giving any nice examples to prove your point.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Would Pakistan shoot if they are flown under American flags?

Pak & US had agreement on that -- but lately drone strikes have almost ended -- meanwhile Pak is using burraq UCAV to hunt terrorist motherfukers..


Now even if India becomes part of USA .. We will still shoot you .. Be it the Bravo uav flown by Indian army's 13 mahar regiment or Indian troops violating ceasefire .

 

[Spectre]

Pak & US had agreement on that -- but lately drone strikes have almost ended -- meanwhile Pak is using burraq UCAV to hunt terrorist motherfukers..


Now even India becomes part of USA .. We will still shoot you .. Be it the Bravo uav flown by Indian army's 13 mahar regiment or Indian troops violating ceasefire .

That is the way it should be. No quarters given, none asked. There is certain kind of symmetry and clarity in the above posture.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

That is the way it should be. No quarters given, none asked. There is certain kind of symmetry and clarity in the above posture.

That's the sad reality of indo Pak relations..

 

[Bad Guy]

IAF should wait for Rustom 2 which has finally reached near trials and inductions otherwise we will again become biggest arms importer.

 

[Jammer]

India seeks Predator drones from US - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

 

[Muhammad Omar]

First Israel and now US.... wonder what happens to Rustom-II??

Any Indian Member?

 

[GR!FF!N]

India seeks Predator drones from US - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

before opening a thread,please do check whether similar threads exists already or not..

I think some 2-3 threads are running on this topic already.

@waz @WebMaster @Oscar

please merge it.

First Israel and now US.... wonder what happens to Rustom-II??

Any Indian Member?

Scheduled for first flight next month.Taxi trials are completed I think.

India’s Own MALE UAV To Fly Soon | Defense News: Aviation International News

it'll take some 2 years before it'll get inducted.So,these measures are for increasing our drone fleet and to fill these gaps.

 

[batmannow]

before opening a thread,please do check whether similar threads exists already or not..

I think some 2-3 threads are running on this topic already.

@waz @WebMaster @Oscar

please merge it.



Scheduled for first flight next month.Taxi trials are completed I think.

India’s Own MALE UAV To Fly Soon | Defense News: Aviation International News

it'll take some 2 years before it'll get inducted.So,these measures are for increasing our drone fleet and to fill these gaps.

Sure just like LCA , PAKFA , every thing is just too soon ?
But , if India gets these beasts predators from USA then it will be a perfect opportunity for PAF to get its hand on the top line Russian weapons .
We might thank India & USA in this regurd ?
Even if India gets predators , it can't operate them as USA did ?
Cause India doesn't have sufficient satalite capabilities ?

 

[Arsalan]

Well i guess by "Make In India",, the current regime meant to make Fool of there people in India,,
Rest is all imported


Anyway, Pakistan need not be concerned, the drones are not going to matter that much in a full fledged war (if god forbade it ever happens) the current technology is anti-insurgency solution at best. Discussing it here in PAF section is not required really,,

@Irfan Baloch @Horus @Slav Defence @WebMaster

 

[massattack]

India is vying to become one of the first countries to import armed Predator Avenger drones from the U.S., a move that would allow it to remotely drop a bomb on any square inch of Pakistan.
The unmanned aircraft manufactured by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems Inc. are sleek, fast, killing machines. From New Delhi they could hunt militants across Pakistan, and become a strategic consideration in border standoffs with China.
If approved, the drones would be another sign of the growing defense ties between Washington and New Delhi: India was the second-largest buyer of U.S. arms in 2014, up from virtually nothing five years ago. The Avengers also represent a small but significant tilt in the strategic dynamics of a region with three nuclear powers and about 40 percent of the world’s population.
"It’s actually quite amazing how quickly the Indian-U.S. relations have developed," said Siemon Wezeman, a researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, a group that monitors arms transfers. “Within a few years India has embraced U.S. weapons” and America is now “supplying India with very advanced military technology," he said.
Pakistan Tensions ::
On Sept. 22, the U.S. in a statement backed India’s membership in the Missile Technology Control Regime, a prerequisite for buying the drones. Two days later, India’s Air Force sent a letter to San Diego-based General Atomics saying it wanted to purchase the Avenger, according to a copy seen by Bloomberg. Air Force officials declined to comment on the letter.
That suggestion alone is enough to raise tensions between India and Pakistan, which have fought four wars in the past and are home to the world’s fastest growing nuclear arsenals since 2010. The Avengers can fly for 18 hours, carry 3,500 pounds of munitions and reach an altitude of 50,000 feet.
“The drones, which can reach anywhere in Pakistan, obviously can create, can heighten the tensions, and increase the risk of a conflagration," said Talat Masood, a retired lieutenant general and an Islamabad-based defense analyst.
India’s drone inventory comprises mostly surveillance-only models made by Israel. With armed drones, India could be more likely to strike in Pakistan to retaliate after terrorist attacks that New Delhi’s leaders pin on their neighbor -- something they’ve avoided doing with fighter jets that carry the risk of downed pilots.
Contested Air Space ::
"Once people across know that they can be struck from the air without India thinking too much that there would be a pilot who may get shot down, that sends a deterrent," said Manmohan Bahadur, a distinguished fellow of the Centre for Air Power Studies in New Delhi and retired air vice marshal of the Indian Air Force.
Bahadur stressed that such drones would not "be used as a free for all" -- “This border is a contested air space that you’re talking about."
Pakistan has at least one drone series capable of carrying out strikes. They are thought to be developed by China and more limited in range and payload than the Avenger.
In the opposite direction, India has had a series of standoffs with China. The more advanced capability of the Chinese military to respond to any strikes, though, makes the drone’s presence more of a deterrent to both sides to tamp down on disputes.
‘Hypothetical Request’ ::
Vivek Lall, General Atomics’s chief executive of U.S. and International Strategic Development, said in an October telephone interview that his company is “aware of India’s interest in Predator-series" drones.
Any sale faces a number of hurdles. Before India could acquire the drones, it must become a member of the Missile Technology group of 34 nations that have common rules for exporting weapons systems. The bloc’s annual meeting concluded on Oct. 9 without India being named a member.
U.S. officials “remain steadfast" in supporting India’s membership, Helaena White, a State Department spokeswoman, said on Nov. 5. As to India buying the Avenger, White said "I can’t speculate on a hypothetical request."
Military Balance ::
In a November phone interview, Lall said: “We look forward to working with the U.S. and Indian governments to support their defense requirements."
The clearance for such a sale wouldn’t come quickly. Once India is a member of the group, the State Department would need to approve the sale and then inform the U.S. Congress, which reviews arms transfers.
A State Department policy issued this year on selling armed drones to allies underlined the sensitivity of such sales. It required that purchasers use the systems in accordance with international law.
A proposed sale to Italy of missiles and bombs for another variant of armed predator drones showed the potential hurdles. A U.S. Department of Defense agency involved in the deal noted this month that “this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region."
It’s boilerplate language that becomes considerably more complicated when it comes to the India-Pakistan border.

First of all India does not have the balls to come into Pakistani territory on a strike mission... secondly ! we will wipe anything from the sky that comes from our eastern borders without permission, just as we did with your previous ones doing reconnaissance. Thirdly US would never give predator drone technology to anyone even India, you can mark my words.

 

[wiseone2]

Sure just like LCA , PAKFA , every thing is just too soon ?
But , if India gets these beasts predators from USA then it will be a perfect opportunity for PAF to get its hand on the top line Russian weapons .
We might thank India & USA in this regurd ?
Even if India gets predators , it can't operate them as USA did ?
Cause India doesn't have sufficient satalite capabilities ?

It would be a massive undertaking to get the satellite capability to make the Predators operational
Russians do not have anything comparable

 

[nForce]

It would be a massive undertaking to get the satellite capability to make the Predators operational
Russians do not have anything comparable

what kind of satellite capability ?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

so India might get "Predator" "Avengers" .. NiCe

Predator

Avengers

Now thats really cool..
Happy Diwali to all