India’s Quiet Counter-China Strategy

[Developereo]

Has anyone noticed a trend in western media?

If you make racist attacks against China, that's absolutely fine. Short of saying they're subhumans, pretty much anything goes.

But even dare disagree with the Jews (half the power in the Wall Street Regime), you're labled a racist, anti semite, Nazi.

As far as I have seen, the attacks on China are on the government, not Chinese people as a race.

 

[Roybot]

Try using the "N" word in media, you ll find out if its only about anti-semitism or not.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

China is a fascinating place with fascinating people and a fascinating culture and heritage.

Project that and not words in poor taste borrowed from the West or propaganda or disinformation.

Imagine my anguish when I quoted a Beatles song, 'Open up your eyes now' and bang ------- the negativity that is so inbuilt took it to be a racial slur!!

 

[below_freezing]

I don't think I know much about anything.

I always try to learn more and from anyone who has the time to teach.

I know Legalism because I find it important not to just meet people, but to understand them. Understanding people is most important.

Whatever I have brought up is to tell people, let us not be superficial. Let us try to understand what makes people tick and even if some facts are uncomfortable, let us say it gently.

Most people think that Pakistani and Indians are at each others throat in real life. It maybe so in forums, but not in real life.

If someone feels that it brings joy to an Indian with what is going on in Pakistan, then one is sadly mistaken. Whatever is going on there is causing problems in the whole neighbourhood.

I daresay my posts on Pakistan is anyway laced with anti Pakistan jingoism.

Even on China I have tried to look at reality, but then if one is constantly being needled, then one must say where the line lies!



Take this example.

It is infantile.

In fact, the whole lots from where I quoted above is totally infantile.

Racist?

Western paid propaganda?

Why have the Indians or whoever no mind of their own?

Any of the posters here are paid by the West?

Are you all paid by PRC, though I have heard the term 50 cent Army.

I think it is so juvenile.

This said post goes to state that China is culture less!

Does this honourable poster think that people, other than the Chinese, are illiterate not aware of the Chinese civilisation and the heritage that it has bequeathed to the world?

Don't believe me? I'll even make some examples!

1.) Cultureless Americanization theory:

THE AMERICANIZATION OF CHINA

2.) Threat theory:

China deemed biggest threat to U.S. - Washington Times

3.) Racial Superiority Theory:

Rush Limbaugh apes 'ching chong' Hu Jintao | People in the News | People | The First Post

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

These thing will always be there.

It is for all to sift the wheat from the chaff.

Limbaugh is hardly a representation of anybody or any people. He is a bigot and it is well known and many Americans themselves take him to be an oddfish.

One cannot lock up people in America for their views.

That is the weakness of democracy!

Notwithstanding I have saved the links (except the Limbaugh one) you gave. I will read it in my spare time. Thank you.

 

[cross1993]

I don't think I know much about anything.

I always try to learn more and from anyone who has the time to teach.

I know Legalism because I find it important not to just meet people, but to understand them. Understanding people is most important.

Whatever I have brought up is to tell people, let us not be superficial. Let us try to understand what makes people tick and even if some facts are uncomfortable, let us say it gently.

Most people think that Pakistani and Indians are at each others throat in real life. It maybe so in forums, but not in real life.

If someone feels that it brings joy to an Indian with what is going on in Pakistan, then one is sadly mistaken. Whatever is going on there is causing problems in the whole neighbourhood.

I daresay my posts on Pakistan is anyway laced with anti Pakistan jingoism.

Even on China I have tried to look at reality, but then if one is constantly being needled, then one must say where the line lies!



Take this example.

It is infantile.

In fact, the whole lots from where I quoted above is totally infantile.

Racist?

Western paid propaganda?

Why have the Indians or whoever no mind of their own?

Any of the posters here are paid by the West?

Are you all paid by PRC, though I have heard the term 50 cent Army.

I think it is so juvenile.

This said post goes to state that China is culture less!

Does this honourable poster think that people, other than the Chinese, are illiterate not aware of the Chinese civilisation and the heritage that it has bequeathed to the world?

It is the poster who lack the beauty of the Chinese civilisation. He uses word like sh...!

He typifies the decadence that has set in, in China.

The West is hardly an example to ape!

"50 cent" does exist. but the term originated in the commercial battle between the companies. Chinese companies often hire "50 cent" to spread rumors against rival on the Web:
http://www.baidu.com/s?tn=monline_4_dg&bs=%CB%AE%BE%FC&f=8&wd=%CD%F8%C2%E7%CB%AE%BE%FC

Later, the term has been misinterpreted as the government Network-army.
Please think carefully about that. Does PDF have sufficient value that worth China sent "Network-army" to it?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

While one would like to not believe that there is any 50 cent army, but during the Olympic Flame there was a sudden influx of posters on all forum, many of them merely to disrupt the forum.

One cannot blame people if they remain worried ever since.

I do think PDF is an important forum or else why should there be so many posters?

However, I don't think that any of the Chinese posters are from the 50 cents. They are young people who are here to possibly fight the 'paid western propaganda' of non Chinese posters in their own personal capacity!

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Chinese Posters,

Thank you.

It was good to have interacted with you.

 

[below_freezing]

While one would like to not believe that there is any 50 cent army, but during the Olympic Flame there was a sudden influx of posters on all forum, many of them merely to disrupt the forum.

One cannot blame people if they remain worried ever since.

I do think PDF is an important forum or else why should there be so many posters?

However, I don't think that any of the Chinese posters are from the 50 cents. They are young people who are here to possibly fight the 'paid western propaganda' of non Chinese posters in their own personal capacity!

Don't worry. The paid propaganda posters of the Wall Street Regime do not go on forums. They are "respected" members of "independent foundations".

 

[cross1993]

While one would like to not believe that there is any 50 cent army, but during the Olympic Flame there was a sudden influx of posters on all forum, many of them merely to disrupt the forum.

One cannot blame people if they remain worried ever since.

I do think PDF is an important forum or else why should there be so many posters?

However, I don't think that any of the Chinese posters are from the 50 cents. They are young people who are here to possibly fight the 'paid western propaganda' of non Chinese posters in their own personal capacity!

Because a lot of rumors on China's network, most Chinese don't trust their news, they are accustomed to think carefully, and logical inference.
While westerners trust their news too much. By far more susceptible to political propaganda.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

I don't trust any news or any politicians.

They all have agendas.

I try to sift the wheat from the chaff as best as I can.

I will agree that I am not perfect since nothing in the world is perfect.

 

[Vinod2070]

Pakistan opposed the USSR because they were India's big daddy.

I would have responded if it was a bit more civil than that.

Paksitan doesn't get involved with Muslim issues in China, Thailand, Philippines, Burma, etc, etc.

I know. You are highly selective in where you apply your "Islamic" causes. It is driven by political opportunism.

You will not understand politics until you stop seeing everything through a religious prism.

We don't do it with anyone else.

With Pakistan, you chose to equate Pakistan with Islam and define your national identity in terms of a religion.

So it becomes a factor.

For Indians and for most others, religion is not to be mixed with politics.

 

[Vinod2070]

I agree with that.

We just have to count on the various national leaderships to be "rational actors".

Naturally (being Chinese), I don't believe that China will launch the first strike in any such future hypothetical war.

You can take it from me (for whatever it is worth) that no Indian wants a war with China. India will not initiate a strike either in my belief.

We have our legitinate interests to protect though and they include the territorial integrity of the country and maintaining a multi polar Asia.

 

[Vinod2070]

Even without nuclear weapons, Pakistan has done very well against India in conventional conflicts. Especially considering the size difference.

You know something about the 1971 war?

So even without nuclear weapons, a smaller adversary can often hold back a much larger adversary. There are many examples in history, Vietnam for one.

I am sure you remember that.

 

[Vinod2070]

I am not surprised one bit. Afterall China is almost 3 times bigger and holds a greater population than India. You cannot 100% rule out corruption. The important part is to not let it affect the upper most power. China managed to blossom so rapidly in the last 30 years and pull so many people out of poverty because they are better at curbing corruptions.

I have said it before and I will repeat it again. I've always regarded India as a great nation will plenty of opportunities to shine in the future. India just needs to knuckle down and lay down the foundation work better. This way it will blossom into a beautiful flower. The way India is competing out of short-sightedness isn't good and will only prolong all its existing problems.

Agree with most of what you say here.

Corruption is affecting us, especially our poor in a big way. Though we are growing despite the corruption, it is one evil that we need to tackle to really take our due place and give the opportunities that every Indian deserves.