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Ice bhai, out of this $46 billion, $11 billion is being borrowed by Pakistan as a LOAN from China to build the road. Payback time is when it will start to hurt! The rest of the infrastructure is being made by Chinese companies which would be funded by Chinese banks. The cost you would therefore be paying for electricity would be around Rs18 -20 PKR per unit in contrast to an average of Rs 8 per unit what you're paying now!! After all, the Chinese companies aren't going to give you any freebies as they would need to pay back their borrowings from banks including interest and make profits too!

Coal plants that are planned to be set up for energy are old existing ones that will be transferred to Pakistan as the Chinese have stopped coal fired plants due to climate change issues. So you guys will be saddled with old stuff producing more pollution than energy!!

Have you calculated the cost of transportation along this road? $460 per ton or Rs 46,000 PKR per ton from Pakistan to Xinjiang via Kashgar! That's almost Rs 5 Lakhs PKR per 10-ton truck - more than the cost of what is being transported!! Would your exports to China along this road be viable? Not by a long shot!

Gwadar will be completely controlled by China. Your exports from here, if any, will be heavily taxed as the Chinese companies controlling the port will need to pay back loans to their banks as well as make profits.

More importantly, your provinces have already started fighting for the 'spoils' and putting spokes in the wheel! Like why is Sindh getting six power plants out of 11? The others are already up in arms and have threatened to scuttle the project. Vested interests will be one big speed-breaker to this project.

Employment generation? Most of the workers will be Chinese. Like the 11,000 stationed permanently in GB for infrastructure development. How many Pakistanis are working with the Chinese there? Just a handful!

And then there's the security angle. Protection of the 3000km pipelines and other infrastructure bordering restive provinces especially in Balochistan will be a nightmare, in spite of the one division strength of the PA planned to be deployed for its protection.

Therefore, my friend, it's not all hunky dory as it sounds. And the Chinese, the businessmen that they are, will extract their pound of flesh from the ordinary Pakistani. There are no freebies in this world despite the 'deeper than the oceans' friendship!

And, finally and most importantly, the Chinese are making this 'economic corridor' for their own strategic and national interests. Pakistan is just a side show in this project. The sooner you realise this the better.

End of rant....:dirol:


Look like Pakistan is heading to another trap.
Chinese are pure business men.
Poor Pakistanis is going to suffer.

Are you a joker as well?
Even if it is a loan, the road is only gonna benefit both China and Pakistan. Pakistans side of the KKH is more developed than the Chinese side, that's why they like trucks like to stop at the Pakistani cities along the road instead of China... Don't understand what the loan has anything to do with it especially since it's included in the investment

Actually Pakistan has already got a good deal with the Chinese companies on financing projects. They give Pakistan great terms and they understand that it might take decades before they even get profit

And where did you get 18-20 rupee per unit cost? Pulling shit out of your *** again? Electricity cost depends on type of generation it is. Hydro is pretty cheap

Actually no, China is building multiple new coal plants in Pakistan and they are getting the most modern of technology with those coal plants to stop air pollution. India's cities are ranked among the worst in air quality index, check on that dear sir instead of worrying about others

Also your 460 per ton cost has already been debunked as you Indian fools were using the sea route cost to calculate the voyage cost!!! Lmao Indians... I guess Chinese think tanks should all retire and start listening to PDF Indians... They'd save 46 billion...

Actually Gwadar construction is being handled over to China. Pakistan Gwadar Port Authority will still monitor all activities and they have the full right to the city.

Plus China will make Gwadar a pearl as they have done with their own cities.


Actually all provinces are very happy with the Chinese investment. It has already been finalized so I'm not sure what anyone would do to try to stop it.
The route also breaks up into multiple roads leading into all provinces to Kashgar


Actually how about the security force being hired by the governnt for protection. Plus the fact that a lot of the workers constructing KKH are Pakistani as they know the terrain the best. Plus industrial corridors are being built throughout the country meaning more jobs for everyone.


Security is gonna be a small issue. Right now Pakistan is relatively peaceful. Again, the Chinese know what they're doing, they didn't invest for no reason. They are aware of the risk

Actually China can make it for whatever interests they like. It serves Pakistans interest as well is what the real cherry on the cake is. Pakistan will be a world leader and turn into the link between China and the rest of the world. And India is NOT invited ... Plus Gwadar can be a naval station for Chinese Navy to monitor any Indian mischief in area

Moron who told that Hydros are cheap.
It needs a good capital investment and environmental spending.
 
Quoted for truth.



Indian FDI was $35 billion last year.

Achieve $50-$60 billion first, then brag.
Don't talk coulda, woulda, shoulda.
1st try to become the no.1 economy in the near future and then come here to brag.At present you are nowhere near the no.1 which is none other than the U.S.A.Seriously,you chinese will never learn will ya!!Showing an over-inflated GDP figure will get you nowhere in the long run.If you have got a little amount of grey matter inside your brain(which i seriously doubt you have) then you should go ahead and learn a lesson or two regarding humility from your eastern neighbor Japan who was the unchallenged no.2 economy for the last 30 years and yet they didn't brag about it anywhere.This is the sole reason why your country will never ever become the sole superpower in this world like the U.S. because of loudmouths like you:coffee:!!
 
Hey no need to stress on it they just say that on Social networking sites but not eye to eye.
I really admire you and @Nihonjin1051 for bringing something good and meaningful on this site but your threads are hijacked by chinese but you shouldn't stress on their views and entertain them. Because there is a saying i follow
"when people start making conspiracies and fun of your achievements then feel happy about the fact that you are progressing' and it suits both of you :enjoy:.


Correct errors and misconceptions when possible, but if some folks are immune to correction, then there's no need to waste time and energy. Some folks , unfortunately, are here to lambast and enjoy , revel in the discord caused by their ineptitude and vociferous idiocy. Best to ignore these kinds of people. Waste of time, and definitely a waste of intellectual energy.

Regards.
 
Correct errors and misconceptions when possible, but if some folks are immune to correction, then there's no need to waste time and energy. Some folks , unfortunately, are here to lambast and enjoy , revel in the discord caused by their ineptitude and vociferous idiocy. Best to ignore these kinds of people. Waste of time, and definitely a waste of intellectual energy.

Regards.
;) Jin Master :tup:
 
@Georgeclark @Indian members & others - do not engage chinese trolls, from my 4 year experience on this board - most of them are paid posters who post from specific scripts and no amount of counter argument works on them, because that's how that troll army works.
 
@Georgeclark , @Nandy9 et al --- let's re-orient the focus to the thread's subject matter. I know that @Azizam also started a great thread similar to this one --- let's get back to that. Remember, just ignore some members who don't do anything here but are to incite subjective nuances. You know their agenda in trying to derail the thread. Don't resort to insults or offensive remarks as they will use that against you, rather, just report to the mods, and ignore. The moderation team here is good, and they try their best to remain as objective and neutral as possible.

Let's all be professional and learned gentlemen that we are. Thanks.
 
@Georgeclark , @Nandy9 et al --- let's re-orient the focus to the thread's subject matter. I know that @Azizam also started a great thread similar to this one --- let's get back to that. Remember, just ignore some members who don't do anything here but are to incite subjective nuances. You know their agenda in trying to derail the thread. Don't resort to insults or offensive remarks as they will use that against you, rather, just report to the mods, and ignore. The moderation team here is good, and they try their best to remain as objective and neutral as possible.

Let's all be professional and learned gentlemen that we are. Thanks.
@Nihonjin1051 bro I admire Japanese people, despite having so struck by So many natural calamities, Nuclear Bombed once, its still one of the strongest nation, though being a small island, its a productive country which has given the world efficient technologies such as, Solar Power, Play Station, Nintendo, Adrenaline, Airsoft, Automatic Power loom, Pocket Calculator, Digital Camera, Video recorder, Bullet Train and so many things. Seriously, the Japanese people are one deterrent people. Who are always happy and helpful. I have one more real life Japanese Friend his name is Moriya, whom I met during my Exchange Program and he is exactly Like you.

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Oh come Indian guyzz are you serious i never expected this from you. You entertained Chinese and Pakistanis trolls.
@Georgeclark buddy no need to entertain these peoples you are good as you are just ignore them they just don't visit other sites except PDF that's why they are half informed or in this case zero informed let them be enjoying about their CPEC or whatever it is.
For every one just visit Delhi Mumbai Industrial Corridor. on this thread and @Nihonjin1051 :omghaha:
:omghaha: Don't take their posts saying Japan is broke country and debt ridden as you can understand from my laughing you know how i must be feeling about that post and it also indicates of how much knowledge of economics people are present here. Just enjoy their threads it's damn laughable.
It was hilarious in the first page that he said india is not easy country to do business and then went on to say that i am a business man. it was damn funny. This thread was damn laughable after reading the three pages and also from now on i have made in my mind that Chinese people really don't know about Innvation.
RIP innovation 2 min silence for Pakistanis and chinese members. :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

Exactly ignore the idiots
 
That means India should have a lot of investment right... Right? Right guys?

NOPE

Even Pakistan, a war torn country got more investment (46 billion) than India in 2015
Lol Best comment in the thread so far. :lol:
 

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