India ranked best for investment

[Icewolf]

Ice bhai, out of this $46 billion, $11 billion is being borrowed by Pakistan as a LOAN from China to build the road. Payback time is when it will start to hurt! The rest of the infrastructure is being made by Chinese companies which would be funded by Chinese banks. The cost you would therefore be paying for electricity would be around Rs18 -20 PKR per unit in contrast to an average of Rs 8 per unit what you're paying now!! After all, the Chinese companies aren't going to give you any freebies as they would need to pay back their borrowings from banks including interest and make profits too!

Coal plants that are planned to be set up for energy are old existing ones that will be transferred to Pakistan as the Chinese have stopped coal fired plants due to climate change issues. So you guys will be saddled with old stuff producing more pollution than energy!!

Have you calculated the cost of transportation along this road? $460 per ton or Rs 46,000 PKR per ton from Pakistan to Xinjiang via Kashgar! That's almost Rs 5 Lakhs PKR per 10-ton truck - more than the cost of what is being transported!! Would your exports to China along this road be viable? Not by a long shot!

Gwadar will be completely controlled by China. Your exports from here, if any, will be heavily taxed as the Chinese companies controlling the port will need to pay back loans to their banks as well as make profits.

More importantly, your provinces have already started fighting for the 'spoils' and putting spokes in the wheel! Like why is Sindh getting six power plants out of 11? The others are already up in arms and have threatened to scuttle the project. Vested interests will be one big speed-breaker to this project.

Employment generation? Most of the workers will be Chinese. Like the 11,000 stationed permanently in GB for infrastructure development. How many Pakistanis are working with the Chinese there? Just a handful!

And then there's the security angle. Protection of the 3000km pipelines and other infrastructure bordering restive provinces especially in Balochistan will be a nightmare, in spite of the one division strength of the PA planned to be deployed for its protection.

Therefore, my friend, it's not all hunky dory as it sounds. And the Chinese, the businessmen that they are, will extract their pound of flesh from the ordinary Pakistani. There are no freebies in this world despite the 'deeper than the oceans' friendship!

And, finally and most importantly, the Chinese are making this 'economic corridor' for their own strategic and national interests. Pakistan is just a side show in this project. The sooner you realise this the better.

End of rant....

Are you a joker as well?
Even if it is a loan, the road is only gonna benefit both China and Pakistan. Pakistans side of the KKH is more developed than the Chinese side, that's why they like trucks like to stop at the Pakistani cities along the road instead of China... Don't understand what the loan has anything to do with it especially since it's included in the investment

Actually Pakistan has already got a good deal with the Chinese companies on financing projects. They give Pakistan great terms and they understand that it might take decades before they even get profit

And where did you get 18-20 rupee per unit cost? Pulling shit out of your *** again? Electricity cost depends on type of generation it is. Hydro is pretty cheap

Actually no, China is building multiple new coal plants in Pakistan and they are getting the most modern of technology with those coal plants to stop air pollution. India's cities are ranked among the worst in air quality index, check on that dear sir instead of worrying about others

Also your 460 per ton cost has already been debunked as you Indian fools were using the sea route cost to calculate the voyage cost!!! Lmao Indians... I guess Chinese think tanks should all retire and start listening to PDF Indians... They'd save 46 billion...

Actually Gwadar construction is being handled over to China. Pakistan Gwadar Port Authority will still monitor all activities and they have the full right to the city.

Plus China will make Gwadar a pearl as they have done with their own cities.


Actually all provinces are very happy with the Chinese investment. It has already been finalized so I'm not sure what anyone would do to try to stop it.
The route also breaks up into multiple roads leading into all provinces to Kashgar


Actually how about the security force being hired by the governnt for protection. Plus the fact that a lot of the workers constructing KKH are Pakistani as they know the terrain the best. Plus industrial corridors are being built throughout the country meaning more jobs for everyone.


Security is gonna be a small issue. Right now Pakistan is relatively peaceful. Again, the Chinese know what they're doing, they didn't invest for no reason. They are aware of the risk

Actually China can make it for whatever interests they like. It serves Pakistans interest as well is what the real cherry on the cake is. Pakistan will be a world leader and turn into the link between China and the rest of the world. And India is NOT invited ... Plus Gwadar can be a naval station for Chinese Navy to monitor any Indian mischief in area

 

[Icewolf]

Really? Check this out....

And here's a video for you....

Yes! There are slums too but which are gradually being rebuilt into housing colonies by the slum development board. By 2022 there would be proper housing for all and the end of slums.

Again, those aren't skyscrapers, those are high rises. Take those pictures to Shanghai, New York, Dubai and watch the world laugh at you and what the pathetic residential buildings you call skyscrapers

 

[OrionHunter]

Again, those aren't skyscrapers, those are high rises. Take those pictures to Shanghai, New York, Dubai and watch the world laugh at you and what the pathetic residential buildings you call skyscrapers

How about your pathetic low rises in Pakistan? You have a looong way to go.

Anyway, what's this love of yours for tall buildings/skyscrapers? The famous Burj Khalifa is running up losses by the millions!! Except for some chest thumping of having the highest building in the world it's of little use to man and beast! Just a fookin' showpiece - a tourist attraction!

You make skyscrapers sound like a dick measuring contest. But remember, size doesn't matter!

 

[Icewolf]

How about your pathetic low rises in Pakistan? You have a looong way to go.

Anyway, what's this love of yours for tall buildings/skyscrapers? The famous Burj Khalifa is running up losses by the millions!! Except for some chest thumping of having the highest building in the world it's of little use to man and beast! Just a fookin' showpiece - a tourist attraction!

You make skyscrapers sound like a dick measuring contest.

See this is why the world dislikes Indians, you always never face your faults instead push it on another. I know Pakistan doesn't have any skyscrapers and I'm quite content with the fact it doesn't. But what I don't understand is how you Indians bragging about Mumbai while when. I look at the skyline it looks like some fourth tier city in China

 

[OrionHunter]

See this is why the world dislikes Indians, you always never face your faults instead push it on another. I know Pakistan doesn't have any skyscrapers and I'm quite content with the fact it doesn't. But what I don't understand is how you Indians bragging about Mumbai while when. I look at the skyline it looks like some fourth tier city in China

When a butt gets hot it starts burning!!

Definition of skyscraper: A skyscraper is a tall, continuously habitable building of over 14 floors, mostly designed for office, commercial and residential uses. A skyscraper can also be called a high-rise, but the term skyscraper is often used for buildings higher than 150 m (492 ft). For buildings above a height of 300 m (984 ft), the term Supertall can be used, while skyscrapers reaching beyond 600 m (1,969 ft) are classified as Megatall.
Skyscraper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

More than 2500 high-rise buildings are already constructed in Mumbai Metropolitan Region, in addition to more than a thousand mid-rises existing already. It is the city with the 12th highest number of skyscrapers in the world. Most of skyscrapers in Mumbai are residential.
List of tallest buildings in Mumbai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Also watch this video. Japan is headed for a imminent collapse, doesn't matter how much they prolong it

@Nihonjin1051
Is Japan headed for a collapse?

 

[OrionHunter]

Are you a joker as well?

If I am then your political analysts and economists are jokers as well, because what I've written is after hearing their debates on Pak TV channels! You profess to know more than them?

And where did you get 18-20 rupee per unit cost? Pulling shit out of your *** again? Electricity cost depends on type of generation it is. Hydro is pretty cheap

As above. I've not pulled shit out of my a$$ as you contend. This 'shit' is according to your own experts on various panels who are discussing the issue threadbare. And it's more coal fired plants and NOT hydro that China is constructing on your behalf. Do make it a point to study the details and watch these discussions on TV instead flying into fits of badmouthing because this seems to be pissing you off!

Actually no, China is building multiple new coal plants in Pakistan and they are getting the most modern of technology with those coal plants to stop air pollution.

Actually no! What the Chinese are passing on to you are the ones they are scrapping as they are going in a big way towards hydel and nuclear power. They have no new modern technology for coal fired plants, otherwise they would never have scrapped them. This is primarily due to effects of global warming and climate change where they have agreed to cut emissions especially from coal fired plants.

Also your 460 per ton cost has already been debunked as you Indian fools were using the sea route cost to calculate the voyage cost!!!

Debunked? Where? Prove it! And I prefer you stop using words like 'Indian fools' as though you are all offspring of Einstein. Thanks.

Security is gonna be a small issue. Right now Pakistan is relatively peaceful. Again, the Chinese know what they're doing, they didn't invest for no reason. They are aware of the risk

Really? Is that why Contractor China Harbour Engineering had completed the first phase of the project but left during the second stage for security reasons? China's Kingho Group was also forced to cancel an ambitious coal mining project in Pakistan for the same reason.

Actually China can make it for whatever interests they like. It serves Pakistans interest as well is what the real cherry on the cake is. Pakistan will be a world leader and turn into the link between China and the rest of the world. Plus Gwadar can be a naval station for Chinese Navy to monitor any Indian mischief in area

All the best. Pakistan a world leader by 2018-20 after the completion of the 45 billion dollar project? Good for you! But remember, there's many a slip between the cup and the lip!

 

[Georgeclark]

So, are you getting the proverbial bang for the buck in India?

Consider it, something like that

 

[IND151]

In the profitability index, the country is way ahead of China, U.S. In the 2014 index, India was at the sixth position.
A ranking of destinations for attractiveness to foreign investors has placed India at the top among 110 countries. China has secured the 65th position and the U.S. is at the 50th. In the 2014 index, India was at the sixth position and Hong Kong was number one.

The ranking is based on an index for baseline profitability that assumes that three factors affect the ultimate success of a foreign investment: how much the value of an asset grows; the preservation of that value while the asset is owned; and the ease of repatriation of proceeds from selling the asset. The index combines measures for each of these factors into a summary statistic that conveys a country’s basic attractiveness for investment.

Investment guidance

“Where exactly should they [investors] put their money? The Baseline Profitability Index (BPI) is back for its third year with some answers, and Narendra Modi’s India is the place to start,” wrote Daniel Altman, creator of the index and an Adjunct Professor at New York University’s Stern School of Business, in the Foreign Policy magazine.

“...economic growth alone doesn’t determine the returns to investing abroad; you have to worry about things like financial stability, physical security, corruption, expropriation by government, exploitation by local partners, capital controls, and exchange rates as well. Putting all of these factors together gives a better idea of how big the return will be when it finally reaches your pocket,” he wrote.

The big story in the BPI in 2015 is “India coming out on top, with growth forecasts up, perceptions of corruption down, and investors better protected following the election of a government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi.”

High returns

A high ranking indicates high returns and improving economic institutions. The index, thus, compares how local policies and conditions affect the same investment in different countries. Or how the value of the principal and the return will change depending only on where the investment is made.

Local factors can erode profits. These include payment of bribes and kickbacks, the risk of which is compared across countries using the Transparency International’s Corruption Perceptions Index, a measure for the perceived levels of public-sector corruption worldwide. In 2014, the country was at the 85th position out of 175 countries as compared to its ranking of 94 out of 177 in 2013.

World Bank index

BPI calculation also uses an index of investor protection compiled by the World Bank. In 2014, the average BPI score across all countries was 0.99; this year it is 1.03 — meaning the expected returns over the next five years are about three-quarters of a per cent higher a year.

The calculation of the BPI is an imperfect exercise fraught with assumptions, Mr. Altman says.

“For example, how does a survey about perceptions of corruption translate into likelihoods of having to pay bribes, and how big might those bribes be?” he wrote when he first introduced the index.

Lower rank in Corruption Index helped India

India came first in the Baseline Profitability Index helped by its improved ranking in the Transparency International’s Corruption Perception Index — in 2014, the country was at the 85th position out of 175 countries as compared to its ranking of 94 out of 177 countries in 2013.

The calculation of the BPI is an imperfect exercise fraught with assumptions, Daniel Altman, its creator, says. “For example, how does a survey about perceptions of corruption translate into likelihoods of having to pay bribes, and how big might those bribes be?” he wrote when he first introduced the index.

In 2014, the average BPI score across all countries was 0.99; this year it is 1.03 — meaning the expected returns over the next five years are about three-quarters of a per cent higher a year.

Very Good News

 

[Manindra]

Are you kidding? Construction of CPEC has already STARTED you fool.

But don't worry I'm sure India will be a superpower by 2020

LOL can you share picture of construction site.
Even route are not finalized due to ANP protest.

 

[Pulsar]

Vedic bhai...46 billion you get is spread across 15 years or until the project is completed assuming India allows it to complete. And India attracts around $40 billion each year with a growth rate of almost 25% every year.

Leave it bro. This guy @Icewolf is clutching at straws to show that Pakistan is far ahead of India just because of a piddly $40 billion 'investment' - not so much for Pakistan but for China's national interests!! It's no use. The brainwashing and propaganda out there has turned logic and reality on its head!

 

[Manindra]

@Nihonjin1051
Is Japan headed for a collapse?

Even IMF can't bail out Japan.

 

[northeast]

Another ranking？You guy still take these endless rankings so seriously？Hilarious.

 

[kaku1]

@Nihonjin1051
Is Japan headed for a collapse?

Actually nope.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Actually nope.

No it is, Vedic Bhai Icewolf has stated it, so it will happen