India: Radicalized Hindu Parents Kill Their Own Daughters Thinking They Would be Alive Again

[Taimoor Khan]

Tantric Poja?? Man these lot are not only ugly, disgusting, filthy but pervert as well.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

These real/fake peers showing karamats and other "supernatural" stunts to the public like narrating someone's past , gliding in the air etc are nothing short of an extension of fitna dajjal as their sole concern seems to be projecting theirselves as some sort of deputy to God instead of spreading the concept of Tawheed ----------


People here prostrate before a semi conscious person becoz some "pak rooh" has taken control of his body , i fear how cheap we gonna sell our faith in the Almighty when anti-christ would instruct his minions to create an illusion of resurrecting the dead ?


Dont do that

When we say wahabis/ahle hadees/ ahlus sunna wal jama'a or whatever name you have for it in Pakistan. Say the same exact things. We are labeled extremists/terrorists, who are not tolerant of other people's romantic/weird/wonderful believes that have nothing to do with Islam.

Kya ye khula tezaad nahi?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Tantric Poja?? Man these lot are not only ugly, disgusting, filthy but pervert as well.

Is it what I think it is? Or am I being a pervert as well. So does it involve sex acts?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Extremist Hindus are actually idiotic, like stupid Aztecs when the Spanish invaded. Instead of attacking the Spanish they just sacrificed each other and their kids, expecting some bird god to come and save them.

People often suggest putting all the world's extremists into a room and letting them finish each other off. The Hindus wouldn't even last a minute.

 

[Verve]

If anyone of you knows about the exact Arabic text and reference number of this Hadeeth plz do mention it

"He who saw me in a dream in fact saw me, for the satan cannot assume my form."

Sahih Muslim 5919

The "roohani babas" ordering ANYTHING in a dream/vision must immediately be cross checked EACH TIME with The Quran and Sunnah !!!

Anyone claiming to have Ilm-e-Gayb should be ignored in these times - too much fabrication and very cleverly done too! It is just shocking what all comes out of these peers - shayateen really have a field day with these lot! Majority of these babay claim to have visions whilst awake and that is a big NO in Islam. And then there are Ghous'es and flying abdaal babay

Dreams can be from Allah (true dreams only), shaytan or nafs.

Sahih Muslim 1074 on truthful dreams:

صحیح مسلم
کتاب: نماز کا بیان
باب: رکوع اور سجدہ میں قرأت قرآن سے روکنے کے بیان میں
حدیث نمبر: 1074

ترجمہ:
سعید بن منصور، ابوبکر بن ابی شیبہ، زہیر بن حرب، سفیان بن عیینہ، سلیمان بن سحیم، ابراہیم، عبداللہ بن معبد، حضرت ابن عباس ؓ سے روایت ہے کہ رسول اللہ ﷺ نے (مرض وفات) میں پردہ اٹھایا اور صحابہ کرام ؓ ابوبکر ؓ کے پیچھے صفیں باندھنے والے تھے تو آپ ﷺ نے فرمایا اے لوگو سچے خوابوں کے علاوہ مبشرات نبوہ میں سے کوئی امر باقی نہیں ہے جن کو مسلمان دیکھتا ہے یا اس کے لئے دکھایا جاتا ہے آگاہ رہو مجھے رکوع یا سجدہ کرتے ہوئے قرأت قرآن سے منع کیا گیا ہے رکوع میں تو اپنے رب کی عظمت بیان کرو اور سجود میں دعا کرنے کی کوشش کرو کہ تمہارے لئے قبول کی جائے۔

There is some evidence (which can be dismissed also) in the form of research and interviews on youtube about existence of reincarnation.

Who's version of reincarnation is this?

Now we as muslims don't have anything in the script (Koran/Hadees/Sunnah) as proof to say that reincarnation exists (or do we ?)

4 or 5 forms of lives in Islam:
1. Life as soul
2. Life in womb
3. Life from birth to death (this and #2 can be clubbed)
4. Life in grave (barzakh)
5. Life in Hell &/or Heaven

No ifs, buts, additions and subtractions in above.

 

[CatSultan]

Did we ever wonder why does The Quran opens with Al -Fateha and ends with Al-Naas?





Dear no one wants to end up as an object of ridicule especially at some defence forum

 

[Mentee]

When we say wahabis/ahle hadees/ ahlus sunna wal jama'a or whatever name you have for it in Pakistan. Say the same exact things. We are labeled extremists/terrorists, who are not tolerant of other people's romantic/weird/wonderful believes that have nothing to do with Islam.

Kya ye khula tezaad nahi?

Hate is reserved only for the open enemy of Almighty aka iblees ------- we are not taught to hate anyone only the acts of transgression .remember hate begets a sense of superiority/pride and pride attracts the wrath of Allah Swt no matter if you are a jin or human.


In case you find someone astray ok,fine. Pray to Allah Swt to guide both of you and not just him. Hidaya is from the Creator so if its given then it can be taken away as well

 

[Signalian]

Who's version of reincarnation is this?

If by who's version you mean religion, then the ones i saw were from India (Hinduism) and UK/USA (Christianity). There were some interesting stories, some covered by news channels, others by researchers. Easy to access on youtube.

4 or 5 forms of lives in Islam:
1. Life as soul
2. Life in womb
3. Life from birth to death (this and #2 can be clubbed)
4. Life in grave (barzakh)
5. Life in Hell &/or Heaven

No ifs, buts, additions and subtractions in above.

i was solely talking about reincarnation.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Hate is reserved only for the open enemy of Almighty aka iblees ------- we are not taught to hate anyone only the acts of transgression .remember hate begets a sense of superiority/pride and pride attracts the wrath of Allah Swt no matter if you are a jin or human.


In case you find someone astray ok,fine. Pray to Allah Swt to guide both of you and not just him. Hidaya is from the Creator so if its given then it can be taken away as well

In Pakistan it is automatically assumed we hate every other sect. We really don't dude. Just like you have 10penny mullahs in Pakistan there are 10penny mullah in Wahabbis/ahle hadis or whatever name you have in Pakistan.

Try stepping out of Pakistan and you'll find that the made in India sects don't really exist in rest of Muslim world. And most of the world believes in Quran, Hadis, Allah and Prophet Muhammad. Without the corruption of some maulana or peer or whatever unlike India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.

Sahih Muslim 5919



Anyone claiming to have Ilm-e-Gayb should be ignored in these times - too much fabrication and very cleverly done too! It is just shocking what all comes out of these peers - shayateen really have a field day with these lot! Majority of these babay claim to have visions whilst awake and that is a big NO in Islam. And then there are Ghous'es and flying abdaal babay

Dreams can be from Allah (true dreams only), shaytan or nafs.

Sahih Muslim 1074 on truthful dreams:

صحیح مسلم
کتاب: نماز کا بیان
باب: رکوع اور سجدہ میں قرأت قرآن سے روکنے کے بیان میں
حدیث نمبر: 1074

ترجمہ:
سعید بن منصور، ابوبکر بن ابی شیبہ، زہیر بن حرب، سفیان بن عیینہ، سلیمان بن سحیم، ابراہیم، عبداللہ بن معبد، حضرت ابن عباس ؓ سے روایت ہے کہ رسول اللہ ﷺ نے (مرض وفات) میں پردہ اٹھایا اور صحابہ کرام ؓ ابوبکر ؓ کے پیچھے صفیں باندھنے والے تھے تو آپ ﷺ نے فرمایا اے لوگو سچے خوابوں کے علاوہ مبشرات نبوہ میں سے کوئی امر باقی نہیں ہے جن کو مسلمان دیکھتا ہے یا اس کے لئے دکھایا جاتا ہے آگاہ رہو مجھے رکوع یا سجدہ کرتے ہوئے قرأت قرآن سے منع کیا گیا ہے رکوع میں تو اپنے رب کی عظمت بیان کرو اور سجود میں دعا کرنے کی کوشش کرو کہ تمہارے لئے قبول کی جائے۔



Who's version of reincarnation is this?



4 or 5 forms of lives in Islam:
1. Life as soul
2. Life in womb
3. Life from birth to death (this and #2 can be clubbed)
4. Life in grave (barzakh)
5. Life in Hell &/or Heaven

No ifs, buts, additions and subtractions in above.

We in the west will understand this but for muslims living in India and Paksitan it is hard to understand. Because they have not really experienced anything outside of peer, mazar, dargah culture. In West Islam is more monotheistic and less tainted with what we have in sub continent. To a lesser degree that is.

I know in UK there are still lots of peers and amil babas etc. Very few of them in North America.

But I am thinking of doing mehboob ap k kadmo mein wala course. Anyone interested hmu.

 

[Iltutmish]

We in the west will understand this but for muslims living in India and Paksitan it is hard to understand. Because they have not really experienced anything outside of peer, mazar, dargah culture. In West Islam is more monotheistic and less tainted with what we have in sub continent. To a lesser degree that is.

That!

Then Pak-Pakistanis get mad at us for not being superstitious Peer- and graveworshippers. Living in the diaspora can strenghten your Muslim and Pakistani identity way more than living in Pakistan. You learn to love your religion and country even more when you are fare away from them.

But there you can see the jahaliyyat of our people. Please tell me, where in Quran and Sunnah is any mention of grave-cults and holy peers? Islam in Pakistan is often just a Hindu paganism light. We need to stop this. They will blame Islam for everything and I know it's like the communist defending their stuff but it's really true. Real Islam was never tried.

May Allah guide us all to the right path!

 

[Signalian]

@Mentee
If you have an account on research gate, you can find publications by researchers on topic of reincarnation from different aspects.

 

[Mentee]

@Mentee
If you have an account on research gate, you can find publications by researchers on topic of reincarnation from different aspects.

57:7 And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you from, abstain (from it) -------

 

[Signalian]

57:7 And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you from, abstain (from it) -------

You don't need to believe the research, but its out there.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Try stepping out of Pakistan and you'll find that the made in India sects don't really exist in rest of Muslim world. And most of the world believes in Quran, Hadis, Allah and Prophet Muhammad. Without the corruption of some maulana or peer or whatever unlike India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.

Great post.

I would add that this precise culture is encouraged by hindutva forces in Hindustan because it keeps us dumb, it keeps us bickering over technicalities and small print, while Hindus quietly eradicate the legacy of the Indian Muslim. Certainly, we're largely protected from Delhi's malevolence in Pakistan, but they can still cause us great damage by depicting all of us as the foolish stereotypical peer baba. You only have to observe the depiction of Indian Muslims and other subcontinental Muslims in Bollywood to understand this.

 

[Mentee]

You don't need to believe the research, but its out there.

Philiosophy/fiction doesn't serve humanity, a distraction from reality and is kind of an incitement in itself ------.However to develop a counter narrative one may study it.