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India Patronize Hindu terrorism

I still don't understand why the Hindu terrorists are staying in India. Ask them to go to Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Its a real shame for us that these Hindu terrorists are operating in India only. We must want to globalize it. :flame::flame:

The Indian media itself inspire some sort of terrorism on here. I do not have a word for it yet but if something come up. I'll let you know.
 
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The Indian media itself inspire some sort of terrorism on here. I do not have a word for it yet but if something come up. I'll let you know.

Still no matter how much we tried we are still invoice to the Muslim Terrorist that PAK has Patronize :rofl:
 
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India: Hindu supremacist terror network had ties to military
By Kranti Kumara and Keith Jones
27 November 2008


The police investigation into the synchronised September 29 bombing attacks in Malegaon, a city in the west Indian state of Maharashtra, and Madosa, in the neighbouring state of Gujarat, has rattled India’s political establishment.


The police have thus far arrested 11 people, while indicating that others, potentially many others, may yet be implicated in what they have termed an “extensive” Hindu-extremist terror network.



The arrested include a lieutenant colonel attached to the Indian Army’s Military Intelligence Corps and a retired army major. Two of the suspects, a Hindu sadhu (holy man) and a sadhvi (holy woman), have long-standing and extensive contacts with prominent politicians and businessmen. All of the alleged principals in the bombing plot have ties to one or more of India’s major “Hindu-nationalist” organisations: the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), the official opposition in India’s parliament, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP, World Hindu Council), and the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh or RSS.


The police have said that they are investigating whether those arrested, or their as-yet-unidentified associates, are responsible for other terrorist atrocities, including the 2007 Samjhuata train bombing, which killed 68 people, most of them Pakistanis, travelling to Pakistan from India.


The Malegaon bombing killed 5 Muslims and injured more than 80 others, while the Madosa bombing resulted in one death.


Although the September 29 bombings clearly targeted Muslims—they were set off near mosques—the police and press immediately blamed them on Islamicist terrorists, and a number of Muslims were subsequently caught up in a police dragnet.



But less than two weeks later, the Maharashtra state Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) said it had uncovered evidence that the bombing attacks were carried out by Hindu extremists and made the first in a series of arrests. Initially, the ATS named the sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur, who was long active in the BJP’s student movement, as the mastermind of the plot.


Later, the ATS arrested Lieutenant Colonel Srikant Purohit. He is now said to have led the terrorist cell that carried out the Malegaon bombing. He is alleged to have given military training to the other suspects and, even more importantly, to have provided them with the military-grade explosive RDX.


Purohit and retired army Major Samir Kulkarniand, who also helped train the alleged bombers, are reputed to be the co-founders of Abhinav Bharat (AB, Young India Society)—a fanatical Hindu-supremacist organisation established in 2006 ostensibly to defend Hindus and fight against their “oppression.”


RDX was used in the Malegaon bombings and several other recent terrorist atrocities in India. Since RDX is very difficult to obtain, its use has been cited by Indian authorities, until now, as proof that those perpetrating the bombings must be from Islamicist organisations with ties to Pakistani or Bangladeshi military-intelligence agencies.



Purohit’s arrest has shaken India’s military high command. It has rushed to dismiss him as a single rogue officer. But there have been repeated media reports suggesting several other current army officers have been implicated in the terrorist plot.


Monday’s Indian Express reported that Purohit has implicated a serving Indian Army colonel, and a television broadcast, later that same day, claimed five army officers are being investigated for their links with the Abhinav Bharat.


The November 12 arrest of a self-styled Hindu sadhu named Dayanand Pandey has also caused considerable disquiet in the Indian establishment.


In pleading yesterday for a Mumbai court to authorise the continued detention and interrogation of Pandey, a government lawyer said that police have recovered evidence from Pandey’s laptop showing he had several meetings with Sadhvi Thakur and Lt. Col. Purohit shortly before the September 29 bombings. Special Prosecutor Rohini Salian claimed that in a video clip on Pandey’s computer, he, “Sadhvi, Purohit and other persons, whose name cannot be disclosed, are seen talking about RDX, chemicals, hand grenades and training."

The head of a shrine in Kashmir, Pandey was, according to news reports, frequently visited by high-profile politicians and businessmen.

The exposure of a Hindu-supremacist terrorist network has thrown the BJP and its allies in the Sangh Parivar, a “family” of organisations historically led by the RSS, into crisis.

Initially, the BJP tried to distance itself from the sadhvi Thakur, but very quickly this gave way to a campaign aimed at discrediting and derailing the police investigation.

The BJP has long hailed the ATS, denouncing as traitors anyone who questioned, let alone criticised, its actions, including its frequent use of mass arrests. India’s official opposition has also repeatedly attacked India’s Congress Party-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government for rescinding the Prevention of Terrorism Act (POTA), which among other things placed the burden of proof in terrorist cases on the accused.

But in recent weeks, the BJP has suddenly found much wrong with the ATS. The BJP has suggested that, under pressure from the government, it is targeting Hindu holy people and other Hindus, demanded that it immediately provide proof against the accused or let them go, and trumpeted claims by Purohit and his associates that the police have tortured them.

Bal Thackeray, the supremo of the Shiv Sena, a longtime ally of the BJP, has forthrightly accused the ATS of framing the Malegaon bombing accused. But he also said that if they did orchestrate the bombings, they should be defended because such murderous attacks on Muslims are justified.

Campaigning yesterday in Delhi, where state elections are soon to be held, the BJP chief minister of Gujarat, Narendra Modi, accused the Congress of maligning the military by imputing that it is involved in terrorist activities. "What Pakistan was not able to do in the last 20 years,” declared Modi, “the Manmohan Singh government has achieved in just 20 days. They have succeeded in branding our soldiers as terrorists."

The exposure of a Hindu-supremacist terror network is extremely damaging for the BJP not just because some of the accused have long-standing ties to the BJP and/or its sister Hindu-supremacist organisations.


The BJP has long made clear that it intends to place at the centre of its campaign in the next national election, which must be held in the first half of 2009, the spurious charge that the Congress is “soft” on terrorism. For years, the BJP has claimed that the UPA government will not “crack down” on terrorism because of “vote bank politics”—that is, its alleged fear of alienating Muslim voters.

Nor can it be ruled out that prominent cadres of one or more of the major Hindu supremacist organisations could themselves be implicated in the Hindu terrorist network. The VHP, RSS, and BJP all have a long and bloody record of inciting violence against India’s religious minorities.

The Indian Express claimed earlier this week that Lt. Col. Purohit told India’s Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) that VHP General Secretary Pravin Togadia was instrumental in founding the Abhinav Bharat.


The government has responded to the Hindu right’s vehement campaign in defence of the accused in the Maleagon bombing with a series of conciliatory gestures. After BJP prime ministerial candidate L.K. Advani charged that the sadhvi Thakur had been “physically and psychologically tortured” by police, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh arranged for Advani to receive a briefing from National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan.

In a further attempt to get the BJP-RSS leader “on side,” police have reportedly revealed to them that Purohit’s group had plans to assassinate one or more senior RSS leaders.

This could well be true. The Hindu right is a toxic and highly unstable political movement. In recent years, the RSS and BJP, many of whose senior leaders, Advani included, are lifelong RSS activists, have been criticised, with increasing vehemence, by fellow Hindu supremacists, including the VHP leadership. The BJP, for example, has been chastised for not more aggressively pursuing key Hindutva causes, including the building of a Hindu temple at the site of the razed Babri Masjid mosque in Ayodhya and eliminating Kashmir’s special constitutional status, when it led a national coalition government from 1998 to 2004.


If the Malaegon bombers did plot to assassinate RSS leaders it would have been with a double purpose, with the aim of eliminating “traitors” to Hindutva and providing a pretext for inciting violence against Muslims, since such an attack would invariably have been blamed on “Muslim extremists.
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India’s corporate media and political and military-security establishments have expressed shock at the phenomenon of Hindu-supremacist terrorism.


But this is only because they have been willfully blind.


Willfully blind because it has served their ends to present the problem of terrorism in India as exclusively “foreign-born” and blind because they do not want to acknowledge the extent to which the “world’s largest democracy” has given rise to an aggressive Hindu communalism, in which fascist elements flourish, and their own complicity in this process.


Evidence of the existence of Hindu-supremacist terrorists significantly predates the events of September 29.


In April 2006, two leaders of the VHP’s youth movement, the Bajrang Dal, were killed when a bomb they were building exploded in Nanded, a city in southeastern Maharashtra. Four others injured in that explosion later told authorities that the dead had been responsible for a series of bomb blasts in 2003 and 2004.


In 2007, a further explosion in Nanded killed two people including a Shiv Sena activist.


The Times of India, in a report published November 8, said that at the time of the first Nanded explosion, police were provided evidence of the extensive involvement of retired military and Intelligence Bureau personnel in training Hindu extremists, but these ties were not aggressively investigated.


Even more importantly, there is the long record of Hindutvite-led and inspired mass violence against religious minorities—violence that has repeatedly demonstrated the Hindu supremacists’ willingness and ability to perpetrate murder and terror. To mention only the two most notorious examples: the 1992 razing of the Babri Majid mosque, which led to the worst communal rioting since the 1947 partition of India, and the 2002 anti-Muslim pogrom in Gujarat, which killed some 2,000 and left a further 100,000 homeless.



India: Hindu supremacist terror network had ties to military

Cut the crap. You are not Zaid Hamid, are you??
 
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The Indian media itself inspire some sort of terrorism on here. I do not have a word for it yet but if something come up. I'll let you know.

So long it is not religion based, I am ok with it. Maybe based on geopolitics.
 
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The Indian media itself inspire some sort of terrorism on here. I do not have a word for it yet but if something come up. I'll let you know.

Dude i need a word to describe you , Always on the high horse with the comments.

Elitist is what come to mind, but that's not totally accurate for you.
 
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No... he is cheif editor of hindustan times!!!!!!
Zaid Hamid support his claim with references.

Looks like all we need is Zaid Hamid to prove anything, courts and all should be abolished.
 
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Zahid hamid fan or not topic of discussion how hindu fundamentalism and terrorism deeply rooted in india and in indian society and in indian media and in ndian govt. There are long list of articles and research presented in this thread including those from Harvard and Princeton.
 
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Zahid hamid fan or not topic of discussion how hindu fundamentalism and terrorism deeply rooted in india and in indian society and in indian media and in ndian govt. There are long list of articles and research presented in this thread including those from Harvard and Princeton.

With all due respect , writing 2-3 page long articles of those that are from Harvard or Princeton dont mean a thing if a majority of Indians say that they are contradictory to what the truth is esp if one knows how many years have the people writing those articles have spent in India .

I will just share my experience and point of view for the same. I come from a small city and have now moved into a big one. Have studied in an arya samajh school to an Army school.Never ever in my life have I ever even come accross people who will even think about bleeding others for the sake of their religion or just because a wild wolf from across the border with a namesake of a freedom fighter straps some explosives and tries to blow himself up.( The closest I got to thinking about war was the morning after the Mumbai attacks recently but still the feeling vanishes in mere minutes)

Everyone here seems to talk about Operation Bluestar , Godhra & the Babri masjid , attrocities on Christains in orrisa and what not but what people forget are the Akshardhams , So many Mumbai blasts , the delhi blasts , blasts in Varanasi , attrocities by terrorists on Hindu pandits in Kashmir, illegal conversion and what not. I challenge anyone here to run through the list of hindus killed or displaced by acts of terrorism and to add all the others (so called minorities although the term doesnt exist for me) and compare between the two. One would understand how much brunt the so called majority has borne.

And yet after all this people are quick to point fingers that see you have Col Purohit. Well I ask all of them that who were the people who caught Col Purohit? Were they all from minority ?

They musnt have thought that extremism is an answer to terrorism. People here have used term like Hindu terrorism . I ask them what is Hindu terrorism. AFAIK terrorism has no religion. Isnt that the Idea that our neighbours also agree to. If so is the case then why a thread title like this. Have you ever seen us coin a term like Islamic terrorism?

The sad truth is that some people dont want to look into their closets and just are too happy to point to others and forget their own problems. My advice will be to put your house in order first and then start pointing fingers at others.

As far as India patronizing Hindu terrorism goes then I would say that this relation of India & terrorism ( let alone Hindu) can only exist in the minds of people who dont think like an Indian ( & I can gurantee that the people in India who think like Indians is more than 99.99 %).
 
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Cut the crap. You are not Zaid Hamid, are you??

he is his ardent follower :hang2: ... there are millions like him in sub-continent.. do we still want a united SouthAsia with the likes of him lurking in Indian neighborhoods.. give me shrills thinking about it
 
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Zahid hamid fan or not topic of discussion how hindu fundamentalism and terrorism deeply rooted in india and in indian society and in indian media and in ndian govt. There are long list of articles and research presented in this thread including those from Harvard and Princeton.

holycow.. really?? .. nooooo?? tell me it aint true??? wow... really??? ... what did the doctor say?? did you and eastwatch get CAT scan which I recommended few weeks back?? .... why is this thread still alive.. :mod: someone is not doing his job right
 
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