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I actually agree with what you posted, I know tons of Afghan(Pashtun), In fact every single Afghan(Pashtun)I know is Pro-Pakistan because of religion and because of many similarities in culture.

The argument that I had initially presented, from an American point of view is that, my Pashtun brothers are recently the victims of target killing (Karachi) from supposedly the MQM, I still remember how my people were treated in Sindh, when I say Afghan, I mean Pashtun. Regardless of nationality, Note when I am talking about Afghan citizens I will say Afghanistani, So here I am talking about Pashtuns only regardless of passport.

In Sindh, They are tortured and constantly are discriminated against, if anyone here disagrees with me, clearly they either have no relatives in Karachi or have not visited Karachi, Yes we are respected by some, I am in no way possible generalizing, but from my experience and my peers experience, Pashtuns were quick to be targets.

In N.W.F.P, There are plenty of cases when people have been facing exoneration, that was all I said, My people are loyal to their respective countries, yet we are still being oppressed.



Tell me what Pakistan is doing to preserve out thousand year old Pashtun culture and our language? can you name 10 schools in N.W.F.P that teach Pashto in schools?

Sindhi is widely taught in Sindh.
I have seen their school curriculum, why is Pashto not taught in Pashtunkhwa? Why are my people still called Sarhadi?

The only problem my people are facing is that they are stuck in someone elses war.


I am not from Karachi nor did I spend much time in that large city. All I know is that theres about 4-5 million Pashtoons living in Karachi making Karachi one of the largest Pashtoon population in the world, and Pakistan is a developing country theres problems in every developing country. Maybe someone from Karachi can answer your question.
 
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You can see for yourself... how civilized Ahmad is (I like him as he is Afghan Tajik)... I was kinda harsh with him in 2-3 of my posts, but he never disrespected me as a woman and he never said anything bad about Punjabi people (only the Pakistani Government), unlike Pakhtunz and Truthhurtz (being Afghan Pashtuns) who disrespected me.

That is why Iranians don't like Afghan pashtunz and consider them backward people and call them "Talibanis". I was a member of some Iranian forum "GlobalPersia" which does't exist anymore, and they used to ban Afghans as soon as they joined their forums. Iranians don't like Afghans Pashtoonz either (for various reasons) and have zero tolerance for them and that is why they always support dari speakers.


Few days ago, they banned me and 2 Iranian members Nimroo and SpaghettiMonster from Afghan forum, bcoz TRUTH was really hurting them... :D:D
 
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I actually agree with what you posted, I know tons of Afghan(Pashtun), In fact every single Afghan(Pashtun)I know is Pro-Pakistan because of religion and because of many similarities in culture.The argument that I had initially presented, from an American point of view is that, my Pashtun brothers are recently the victims of target killing (Karachi) from supposedly the MQM, I still remember how my people were treated in Sindh, when I say Afghan, I mean Pashtun. Regardless of nationality, Note when I am talking about Afghan citizens I will say Afghanistani, So here I am talking about Pashtuns only regardless of passport.

Dont try to act smart.........in ur last post u were RANTING will our afghan brothers forget how they were treated in peshawar and how afghanistanis or afghanis were hating pakistan.And now ur talking a U TURN.
Stick to your own buissness.
About afghan title sunny pushtuns are called afghans coz they rulled Afghanistan not bcoz it is a ethnic group its more of a title like rajputs use rana,,,balochs use mir or nawab,punjabis use chowdhary etc.
So dont lie and try to create ur BULL SHYT Bubble of quan here.
Pakistani pushtuns use Pushtun not afghan as nowadays its used most of the times by afghanistanis?
Have some shame and dont lie u liar.
About MQM and pakistani affairs u dont have any relation with it u bloody liar.....stick to ur own country and mind ur own buissness.
Its PAKISTAN NOT AFGHANISTAN OR USA.

U retard do u know most of presidents of pakisan have been pushtons and well as generals?
U troll are here to create rifts?

In Sindh, They are tortured and constantly are discriminated against, if anyone here disagrees with me, clearly they either have no relatives in Karachi or have not visited Karachi, Yes we are respected by some, I am in no way possible generalizing, but from my experience and my peers experience, Pashtuns were quick to be targets.
FAGGOT have u ever visited pakistan?u afganistani american moron? Troll

In N.W.F.P, There are plenty of cases when people have been facing exoneration, that was all I said, My people are loyal to their respective countries, yet we are still being oppressed.
I have seen their school curriculum, why is Pashto not taught in Pashtunkhwa? Why are my people still called Sarhadi
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O...... Pushtunkhwas govt. isnt loody tajik or hindu its Pakistani and pushtun and if u are talking about talifuking bans they are afghani mercineries who recieve mmoney from indians sitting in kabuli embassies.
If ur talking about afghanis yes no pakisani pushtun like them coz most of them(afghanistani) can kill there brother for 100 rs.
Whose called sarhadi u retard?????Some people use sarhadi as there sir name like zalay sirhadi is tht discrmination?U Assfghani

Tell me what Pakistan is doing to preserve out thousand year old Pashtun culture and our language? can you name 10 schools in N.W.F.P that teach Pashto in schools?
Moron Urdu isnt the language of all pakistan and is our state language and as for pashto it is given as a choice for students to stud in pushto medium as well as there is choice in college if u want to study balochi,punjabis,pushto or sindhi....Who blew buddha statues in afghanistan ????GOP? OR AFGHANISTANIS?Why SWAT has thousand year old buddha stuppas and statues?


Sindhi is widely taught in Sindh.
U call also learn pushto in sindh if u want?
And whats ur problem u afghanistani american?????ur not even Pakistani and probably not even know pushto.....
\In afghanistan Ur people AFGHANISTANI SPEAK FARSI.......FARSIBAN
The only problem my people are facing is that they are stuck in someone elses war


If u mean afghanistan we dont care go help ur people in afghanistan.
And why are u shamed of yourself if u are so afghanistani?
 
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Omar1984,

Ahmed is right.. I have spent much time with Afghans on their forums... and "Afghan Pashtoonz" are NOT PRO-Pakistan. Take my word for it. Maybe the ones in Pakistan are... but the ones who are settled in foreign countries are not PRO-PAKISTAN.

Actually, Afghan Pashtoonz hate Pakistan (and especially Punjabis) MORE than Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras etc. They always talk about breaking Pakistan and getting their lands back...

Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras etc are oppressed groups of Afghanistan, especially Hazaras. Although all of them hate Pakistan, but Tajiks, Uzbeks etc don't hate Pakistan as much as Afghan Pashtoonz. The reason behind that is simple which I will explain below...!!

Pashtunz of Afghanistan are the largest ethnic group of Afghanistan (40%) but still not THE majority (from that i mean they dont make up 50% or more of Afghan population). The second largest group are Tajiks (also known as farsiwans or dari speakers). They are better educated than Afghan Pashtunz, relatively more civilized, anti-taliban etc. They have strong foot-hold in Herat which is the most developed city in Afghanistan right now. Being the first and second largest ethnic groups of Afghanistan, Tajiks and Pashtunz are rivals. Unlike, Afghan Pashtunz, MOST Afghan Tajiks and Hazaras don't talk about Durand lines and they don't want destabilized Pakistan. The reason is, IF Pakistani Pashtoonz join Afghan Pashtoonz, they will become an overwhelming majority in Afghanistan (more than 70%).... and the number of Tajiks and Hazaras get very diluted... They are already oppressed by Afghan Pashtoonz... and they very much fear the idea of Pakistani Pashtoonz joining them. Such a move will be a nightmare for other ethnicities of Afghanistan.

I am telling you all this from my personal and online experience with Afghans for the last 5 years. Just like they always try to destabilize Pakistan by creating ethnic conflicts between Pakistani Pashtoonz and Punjabis.. and always try to turn Pakistani Pashtoonz against Pakistani Punjabis.. Pakistan should play the same game.. Tajik-Pashtun rivalry.. Most Afghan Pashtoonz don't like Afghan Tajiks leader and hero - Ahmed Shah Masood...

I dont care too much about ethnic rivalry in the cyber world. The real world is very different from the cyber world. I know that Pashtoons of Pakistan will not make a Pashtoonistan or join Afghanistan. It will not happen. Theres so many Pashtoons in Pakistan army, ISI, in every field in Pakistan. I never doubt their loyalty towards Pakistan, no Pakistani should, and I dont think Afghanistan can take NWFP and Balochistan. Afghan National Army is just 5 years old, Pakistan has one of the strongest armies in the world and is a nuclear power. You can not compare the situation in Afghanistan with Pakistan, both countries are totally different. All this debating about durrand line is a waste of time :rolleyes:
 
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I dont care too much about ethnic rivalry in the cyber world. The real world is very different from the cyber world. I know that Pashtoons of Pakistan will not make a Pashtoonistan or join Afghanistan. It will not happen. Theres so many Pashtoons in Pakistan army, ISI, in every field in Pakistan. I never doubt their loyalty towards Pakistan, no Pakistani should, and I dont think Afghanistan can take NWFP and Balochistan. Afghan National Army is just 5 years old, Pakistan has one of the strongest armies in the world and is a nuclear power. You can not compare the situation in Afghanistan with Pakistan, both countries are totally different. All this debating about durrand line is a waste of time :rolleyes:

I agree... :D:D
 
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OMAR this truth guy is some troll and doesnt know shitt he talks about afghanis treated badly and how afghanistanis are starting to hate pakistan and when he recieves a blow on his arse he tries to act funny and takes a U turn and tries his uttmost to say tht pakistani pashtons are discriminated in pakistan and so on.
This bloody retard doesnt know crap
 
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Dont try to act smart.

I cant help it.
........in ur last post u were RANTING will our afghan brothers forget how they were treated in peshawar and how afghanistanis or afghanis were hating pakistan.And now ur talking a U TURN.
English please, Re-read my post.
Stick to your own buissness.
About afghan title sunny pushtuns are called afghans coz they rulled Afghanistan not bcoz it is a ethnic group its more of a title like rajputs use rana,,,balochs use mir or nawab,punjabis use chowdhary etc.
I did not understand a word you said above, please English.
So dont lie and try to create ur BULL SHYT Bubble of quan here.
Huh? How old are you?
Pakistani pushtuns use Pushtun not afghan as nowadays its used most of the times by afghanistanis?
So Pakistani Government, ANP,PMAP are all Afghanistanis? Huh? Have you been to ANP Jalsa? wondered what they call themselves? They are one the major parties you know.
Have some shame and dont lie u liar.
Where did I lie, Get some education.
About MQM and pakistani affairs u dont have any relation with it u bloody liar.....stick to ur own country and mind ur own buissness.

Ofcourse I don't have any relation, I am speaking with sources to back it up. Are you upset cause the truth was posted?

FAGGOT have u ever visited pakistan?

Clearly you can't read.
u afganistani american moron?
*American
O...... Pushtunkhwas govt. isnt loody tajik or hindu its Pakistani and pushtun and if u are talking about talifuking bans they are afghani mercineries who recieve mmoney from indians sitting in kabuli embassies.
God damn you you cant even put a sentence together, we need a translator here.
Moron Urdu isnt the language of all pakistan
Huh?
U call also learn pushto in sindh if u want?
What?
And whats ur problem u american?????ur not even Pakistani and probably not even know pushto.....
Lmao ok.


You need some education my brother.
 
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How so?

Can you please show me where I said that? You are lying already?Cmon now.

sorry, your the liar here, not me! Sitting more than 12,000 kilometers away telling us Pakistani Pashtuns how we're treated lol, nice try hypocrite!:rofl:



I don't know about that one, Calm down.

Why don't you come over to Pakistan and try that?

Who asked you to be part of Afghanistan? I never asked you, not so sure where you got that from.

Maybe not you, but your Afghan nationals are!




Or Pakistani Afghan* And if you deny that you are an ethnic Afghan, Then feel free to idenity yourself with another ethnic group, cause according to your government and history, all Pashtuns are Afghan. Don't make Kushal Khan Khattak and Bacha khan "Slay you" like they said. But there is nothing wrong with being a Pakistani, or Patriotic, I am a Patriotic American, I am a proud American, but I am also a Pashtun , However, I am educated ENOUGH to know my roots and I am not brainwashed. If you are disrespecting "Afghans" you are disrespecting yourself, which draws me to a conclusion that your perhaps not Pashtun to begin with, or you are one of those Hindko people who have learned Pashto and are now associating themselves with us, anyways.

your the one who is talking nonsense about Pakistan while sitting more than 12,000 kilometers away! You have never been to Pakistan so how the hell do you know Pashtuns are treated as second class citizens? I love my heritage, i'm 100% Pashtun, and if i said anything disrespectful about Afghanistan then it was because you disrespected Pakistan!


My country, the U.S.A is no where near as corrupt and divided as compared to yours, so stop right there.

i love it how you resort to hypocrisy, i'm enjoying this:cheesy:

That is interesting, but not that I care.

Who cares about all that, at least I dont.

But your fellow Afghan nationals do!

How so? I belong to the worlds largest economy, I belong to a country that has the best universities in the world, I belong to a country that AIDS your country on a bi-monthly basis and yet you are still complaining? Cmon, Most of your people is living off our Tax dollars, calm down.

on one side your being American, on the other an Afghan, make up your mind! Or is it that your ashamed to call your self an Afghan?

Who gave you the invitation in the first place?

Your own fellow Afghan nationals are hell bent in creating Pashtunistan.






That is awesome. I feel proud.

good for you!

Are you sure about that one? Post your sources, That will be something new that I will take even more pride in. An ethnic Afghan(Pashtun) was Pakistan's scientist. wow.

Kudos.

i know, i'm also proud:yahoo::pakistan:

"Khan is an ethnic Pashtun[7] born in Bhopal, India in 1936."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Qadeer_Khan#Early_life

This is only one reference, there are other out there!

That is good news, I wonder why the enroll in the Army, is it because of lack of Jobs?

At least they don't sell drugs and women!

Staying loyal to your country is always a good thing.

And that's exactly what i'm doing!


So your women are famous for being whores as well? Are you sure you are an Afghan(Pashtun). I doubt a Pashtun would make so much fun of himself. I think you are faking the Pashtun identity, Shame on you Benamoos.

You rant too much, come up with a better argument!

So my Pashtun brothers are treated like 2nd class citizens, you simply co-signed my statement. When a Pashtun enters a marketplace everyone holds their children? You contradicted everything you said earlier and committed quite a few fallacies, This is enjoying.

You mean your Afghan countrymen? well is it my fault they ruined their reputation?

And what are you? A chimpanzee? Didn't you just say you are an Afghan(Pashtun)?

Name calling, i can report you!so you mean to say anyone who is not Pashtun is a chimpanzee?

Afghan is not a ethnic group or race, its a nationality!

You said you are a Pakistani Pashtun, which is an Pakistani ethnic Afghan according to ANP,PMAP and Your govt and history and your saying your people brings drugs to Pakistan. Gosh oh my God.

Okay, awesome.

So Pashtuns now take refuge in their own land? Or are you talking about Afghanistani nationals? Who are you talking about here? based on what you said, you are taking refuge in Pakistan? My countrymen? So you are saying American Pashtuns have seeked refuge in Pakistan? Not so sue about that. We Americans enjoy a great life here.

Why would you send your family to India?

Talk about being Racist.

You are a walking talking contradiction, You made the Pashtun(Ethnic Afghan) name look bad, Please next time do not claim the Pashtun(Afghan) status.


Let see, If you reply and say you are not an "ethnic Afghan" Feel free to identify youself with another ethnic group next time. Like I said, According to History, Your Pakistani Government, Your Pashtun political parties, the ruling Pashtun party, Afghan is Pashtun. and Pashtun is Afghan.

However, Afghanistani is an Afghan citizen.

Here is a little taste of what I mean, Look at those Brave Pakistani Afghan from Pakistan(ANP) Chanting, LAR AW BAR YAW AFGHAN.

YouTube - Achakzai and Asfand Yar 5/6
Scroll to 8:30



LOL@ People being so uneducated in failing to grasp my points. I have nothing against Pakistan,Afghanistan and etc. I was just debating Pakistani influence in other countries and an influx people start assuming I am Indian? Why so hostile towards Indians? What's wrong with Indians? I actually like Indians,Pakistani's and Afghan. I have nothing against them.

You like to avoid the main issue by posting nonsense that has nothing to do with what i'm talking about!

so much ranting i have never read in my whole life! I was born in Pakistan, so i have Pakistani Nationality and citizenship, so now tell me you "educated" (your joking right:rofl:?) genius, am i afghan by nationality? When i said you AFGHANS, i was talking about nationality, not ethnicity, but maybe your to slow to comprehend and understand difference between nationality and ethnicity! and you say i'm uneducated (your hypocrisy is showing)!

As far as ANP and Pakistani politics are concerned, i'm not much of an expert on that issue, i'm more interested in military (which is why i joined this forum)!

And now your here accusing me of not being a Pashtun just because i disagree with your silly posts? lol, please keep personal attacks out or else you will be reported!

I apologize, as i did sound kind of harsh in my previous posts, but that was because i was angered at all those accusations being thrown at Pakistan! I'm proud of my Pashtun history and culture, and i would love peace in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but that doesn't mean india should be allowed access to Afghanistan! Maybe another neutral country can replace india so this way Pakistan won't have to worry about Afghanistan's internal affairs!
 
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Omar1984,

Ahmed is right.. I have spent much time with Afghans on their forums... and "Afghan Pashtoonz" are NOT PRO-Pakistan. Take my word for it. Maybe the ones in Pakistan are... but the ones who are settled in foreign countries are not PRO-PAKISTAN.

Actually, Afghan Pashtoonz hate Pakistan (and especially Punjabis) MORE than Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras etc. They always talk about breaking Pakistan and getting their lands back...

Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras etc are oppressed groups of Afghanistan, especially Hazaras. Although all of them hate Pakistan, but Tajiks, Uzbeks etc don't hate Pakistan as much as Afghan Pashtoonz. The reason behind that is simple which I will explain below...!!

Pashtunz of Afghanistan are the largest ethnic group of Afghanistan (40%) but still not THE majority (from that i mean they dont make up 50% or more of Afghan population). The second largest group are Tajiks (also known as farsiwans or dari speakers). They are better educated than Afghan Pashtunz, relatively more civilized, anti-taliban etc. They have strong foot-hold in Herat which is the most developed city in Afghanistan right now. Being the first and second largest ethnic groups of Afghanistan, Tajiks and Pashtunz are rivals. Unlike, Afghan Pashtunz, MOST Afghan Tajiks and Hazaras don't talk about Durand lines and they don't want destabilized Pakistan. The reason is, IF Pakistani Pashtoonz join Afghan Pashtoonz, they will become an overwhelming majority in Afghanistan (more than 70%).... and the number of Tajiks and Hazaras get very diluted... They are already oppressed by Afghan Pashtoonz... and they very much fear the idea of Pakistani Pashtoonz joining them. Such a move will be a nightmare for other ethnicities of Afghanistan.

I am telling you all this from my personal and online experience with Afghans for the last 5 years. Just like they always try to destabilize Pakistan by creating ethnic conflicts between Pakistani Pashtoonz and Punjabis.. and always try to turn Pakistani Pashtoonz against Pakistani Punjabis.. Pakistan should play the same game.. Tajik-Pashtun rivalry.. Most Afghan Pashtoonz don't like Afghan Tajiks leader and hero - Ahmed Shah Masood...

absolutely dead right :tup: I've had exactly the same experience
 
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Looks like truth hurtz ur getting cyber sodomised here.Better u get ur crap together and leave.Murdagah
 
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I cant help it.

English please, Re-read my post.

I did not understand a word you said above, please English.

Huh? How old are you?

So Pakistani Government, ANP,PMAP are all Afghanistanis? Huh? Have you been to ANP Jalsa? wondered what they call themselves? They are one the major parties you know.

Where did I lie, Get some education.

Ofcourse I don't have any relation, I am speaking with sources to back it up. Are you upset cause the truth was posted?


Clearly you can't read.

*American

God damn you you cant even put a sentence together, we need a translator here.

Huh?

What?

Lmao ok.


You need some education my brother.

Seriously, when you can't debate properly, then back off!

You ignored every one of his points by saying "english please"! you can't refute us, you only have lies!
 
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sorry, your the liar here, not me! Sitting more than 12,000 kilometers away telling us Pakistani Pashtuns how we're treated lol, nice try hypocrite!:rofl:
Have you heard of an Airplane?



Maybe not you, but your Afghan nationals are!
Which ethnic group are you talking about, What I was trying to do was point out the fallacy in your post. When you mention "Afghans did this, Afghans did that" You are indirectly speaking negatively about the Pashtun nation. All Non Pashtun groups rather prefer to call themselves by their ethnic name as compared to being called an Afghan which is synonymous with Pashtun. Do you get my logic now?




your the one who is talking nonsense about Pakistan while sitting more than 12,000 kilometers away! You have never been to Pakistan
When and where did I say that, Wrora, You are a Pakistani Pashtun, I am an American Pashtun, me and you have the same roots, same culture, same ancestors yet we are arguing and its a shame I tell ya, But I have visited Pakistan just a FYI.
so how the hell do you know Pashtuns are treated as second class citizens?
Wrora, read the above Qurbaana.
love my heritage, i'm 100% Pashtun, and if i said anything disrespectful about Afghanistan then it was because you disrespected Pakistan!
Can you please show me where I disrespected Pakistan?
I was arguing with a member who I realized had no brains and her username was Jinxed something, But when I realized I was talking to a 5 year old, I ignored her and cleared up what you might consider controversy.



i love it how you resort to hypocrisy, i'm enjoying this:cheesy:
How so wrora?

But your fellow Afghan nationals do!
Pakistani Pashtun and Afghan Pashtun are the same exact thing for me.

If you are successful, I will just as happy as if someone from Afghanistan is successful.

I love and care a lot about Pashtun ethnic group, You are a Pashtun from Pakistan, I am a Pashtun from American,

For you to disrespect a Pashtun from Afghanistan, You are disrespecting yourself and your ancestors, Most of the Afghan rulers you can think was Pashtuns. You should be proud about your history, You should be proud to be an ethnic Afghan. From Sher Shah Suri, to Ahmad Shah baba, to the Hotaki dynasty to the Lodhi dynasty. We have a brilliant culture and history that many are jealous of. If you are a Pakistani and you are happy, Believe me, as an American, I am happy for you.

My argument is my people are not given equal status in Karachi thats all. I have sources to back it up and I demand for better rights, That is all wrora. Have I cursed out Pashtuns? Have I?

on one side your being American, on the other an Afghan, make up your mind! Or is it that your ashamed to call your self an Afghan?
Once again, I am not Afghan by nationality wrora, I am Afghan by ethnicity just like how you are.

You are Pakistani and you belong to the Afghan ethnic group from one of our famous tribes Yusufzai.

I am an American and I also belong to the Afghan ethnic group/

Can't you see that I have made up mind?
Your own fellow Afghan nationals are hell bent in creating Pashtunistan.
I don't give a crap about anyone who wishes to further divide Muslims.


You rant too much, come up with a better argument!
Wrora, is my argument not clear for you?



Name calling, i can report you!so you mean to say anyone who is not Pashtun is a chimpanzee?
No, That is not what I mean.
Afghan is not a ethnic group or race, its a nationality!
Lets see, according to history, according to Pakistan, according to your political parties, it can be argued as an ethnicity.

Why on earth would ANP say they are proud Afghans, pashtuns? when they are Pakistani, wrora, If you need material on how Afghan is an ethnic group, I can provide material.

Just google the word Afghan and you will it is synonymous with the word Pashtun.

so much ranting i have never read in my whole life! I was born in Pakistan, so i have Pakistani Nationality and citizenship,
Okay good.
so now tell me you "educated" (your joking right:rofl:?) genius, am i afghan by nationality?
Of course not. You are an ethnic Afghan also known as Pashtun.
When i said you AFGHANS, i was talking about nationality,
You should have used Afghanistani instead. Why do you think people in Afghanistan want a name change? Because everyone is aware that Pashtun means Afghan and Afghan means Pashtun.

Like Kushal Khan said wrora,
"Pull out your swords and slay anyone that says Afghan and Pashtun are not one, Arabs know this and so do Romans, Afghans are Pashtuns and Pashtuns are Afghans"

As far as ANP and Pakistani politics are concerned, i'm not much of an expert on that issue, i'm more interested in military!
You should have said that from the beginning, Thats fine.
And now your here accusing me of not being a Pashtun just because i disagree with your silly posts?
Not at all. Read carefully.

I apologize,
Apology accepted.
as i did sound kind of harsh in my previous posts, but that was because i was angered at all those accusations being thrown at Pakistan! I'm proud of my Pashtun history and culture, and i would love peace in Afghanistan and Pakistan, but that doesn't mean india should be allowed access to Afghanistan! Maybe another neutral country can replace india so this way Pakistan won't have to worry about Afghanistan's internal affairs!
Okay, If you say so wrora.
 
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Seriously, when you can't debate properly, then back off!

You ignored every one of his points by saying "english please"! you can't refute us, you only have lies!
Cause I did not understand what he was saying, I am sorry but I don't have time to hire a translator.

Look at what he wrote.
 
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