What's new

India on the lookout for fighters apart from Rafales

Who told you that F 18E/F is outdated and if US airforce don't use F18E/F then it is not in service of any other airforce....
The F-18 was never in US Air Force service. It was always a Navy plane. The E/F is pretty modern, its been reworked many times. Clearly a Gen 4.5 jet. Variants have been proposed to move it closer to Gen 5, as an alternate to the F-35. The Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps have been fighting over priorities for the F-35 for years, and it has pushed the budget through the roof. :-(

For those unaware, the US Air Force (USAF) and US Navy are separate organizations, with separate supply chains, separate bases, separate personnel, separate training, and even some separate research facilities. They cross-train occasionally, but they don't get along that well. Curtis LeMay (USAF general years ago) once said, The Soviets are our adversary. Our enemy is the Navy.
 
Last edited:
.
My only wish for IAF -once these current varieties are retired by 2030 -focus on just 3 types of main combat aircraft.
Heavy MMRCA - PAKFA
Stealthy medium strike aircraft
Light cheap point defence fighter
+
Drones

End the logistical haggle.
Do not let the next 40 year cycle be one of 6-8 different types of jets.
 
.
My only wish for IAF -once these current varieties are retired by 2030 -focus on just 3 types of main combat aircraft.
Heavy MMRCA - PAKFA
Stealthy medium strike aircraft
Light cheap point defence fighter
+
Drones

End the logistical haggle.
Do not let the next 40 year cycle be one of 6-8 different types of jets.
wont be as less you want.

MKI's will remain, so will rafales, LCA1P and MK2 will be in operation, add PAKFA + PMF FGFA along with AMCA. You are looking at a minimum of 5 platforms + variants.

As far as the OP is concerned I highly doubt there will be any other platforms introduced, the only dark horse being the F18SH which i fear we haven't seen the last of (maybe the Naval version).
 
. .
T
Whywhywhy? Having a bunch of different aircraft that do basically the same thing, but require separate supply chains is pointlessly wasteful.
True..And I don't think the IAF is going for a different platform again..It is just third class journalism..
 
.
wont be as less you want.

MKI's will remain, so will rafales, LCA1P and MK2 will be in operation, add PAKFA + PMF FGFA along with AMCA. You are looking at a minimum of 5 platforms + variants.

As far as the OP is concerned I highly doubt there will be any other platforms introduced, the only dark horse being the F18SH which i fear we haven't seen the last of (maybe the Naval version).
Might be a good idea for IAF and navy to opt for a same 5th gen fighter with NLCA's for INS Vishal and the follow on ship.
 
.
but they don't get along that well

I think the most bitter rivalry is between CIA and FBI. Both absolutely hate each others guts (what I have learned from public domain).

On topic here is ground realities.

Migs still form the majority of IAF. Mig-21 is the most numerous fighter at present which is not a good sign for IAF. Barring the 220 MKIs and 50 Mirage 2000 aircraft all other aircraft in IAF are near obsolete.

LCA is not combat worthy and due to its design flaws and limitations will never be combat worthy. IAF does not have a single Rafale and as things are going there won't be any Rafale in future. PAK-FA is the best bet but again no idea when they will be inducted.
 
.
HASIMARA (NORTH BENGAL): The Indian Air Force (IAF) is hunting for fighter aircraft apart from the Rafale medium multi-role combat ones and the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) to meet the existing shortage, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha said after the handing over of Presidential Standards to two Mig-27ML squadrons by President Pranab Mukherjee at Air Force Station Hasimara on Saturday. The IAF would be forming several more squadrons in the next few years, the air chief said.

"There are shortages. We will be retiring the Mig-27MLs that have not been upgraded in the last 2-3 years. One of the squadrons at Hasimara will also be retired in 2016. We are looking forward to receiving the Rafales. Apart from this, there are other aircraft we are looking at. We will also be getting more Su-30MKIs. An order has also been placed for 120 Tejas Mk-IIs. There are many plans and things will change in the next 10-12 years," Raha said in response to a question from TOI.

He did not elaborate on which aircraft India has its eye set upon. According to sources, it could well be the F-18 Super Hornet that had competed with the Rafale when India was on the lookout for 126 MMRCAs. Recently, Boeing has offered to set up a manufacturing facility in India and manufacture F-18s to suit the country's needs. So has Dassault, the French company that manfactures Rafales. Without being specific, Raha made it clear that the IAF no longer wants to get over-reliant on any particular variety of aircraft. If the un-upgraded Mig-27MLs are to be retired, the IAF is likely to lose two more squadrons in the near future.

Raha said that creation of assets depends on threat perceptions and steps are being taken to build infrastructure. "There are voids, both infrastructure and security-wise, both in the northeastern states and elsewhere in the country. We are working towards upgrading Advanced Landing Grounds to accommodate fixed wing aircraft as well. As of now, we don't have plans to build new air bases in the northeastern sector but will upgrade existing ones. However, we are trying to share civil airfields at certain locations. The government is also looking towards the building of roads and other infrastructure for better connectivity and development, economic and otherwise," he said.

According to him, there are several unused air bases in West Bengal that may get activated in the days to come. Land acquisition is not and issue as the IAF has enough property of its own in the state. The Rampurhat air field has already been activated. Some IAF aircraft are also landing and taking-off from Rampurhat to check out conditions. Though infrastructure is being created in this sector, Raha doesn't believe that China should be treated as an adversary.

"They have been aggressive in the past. We do have some border issues but better co-operation and understanding will have to be achieved for overall development of the region. Both are large countries with huge populations. They can work better together. India has a very important role to play internationally and to maintain this, we will have to increase our military capabilities. While working towards this, there are plans to base important hardware at Hasimara."
India on the lookout for fighters apart from Rafales - The Times of India
Does this mean IAF will only get 36 Rafales?
What probably could be the reason behind going for other aircrafts? Doesn't Rafale fulfill all IAF's requirements?
 
. .
As of now it looks like IAF won't even get a single Rafale.



Lack of money to buy high-end aircraft like Rafale.
Is this your opinion or you have a source backing it?
If you are right. Well then it looks like IAF is looking for other cheaper options when they say India is looking for figthers other than Rafale?
 
.
As of now it looks like IAF won't even get a single Rafale.
Lack of money to buy high-end aircraft like Rafale.

Well, Mr. False Flag , it seems your Grey Cells as well are "False".
With 50 Billion Budget, Its Not Money but the ToT in Question.
 
.
Is this your opinion or you have a source backing it?

Opinion based on public information.

If you are right. Well then it looks like IAF is looking for other cheaper options when they say India is looking for figthers other than Rafale?

IAF is confused now. India should have brought those Rafales 10 years back. Now India also wants to buy PAK-FA which is a 2 engine 5th gen fighter. Spending 20 billion dollars on Rafale now does not make sense if you are going to spend another 20 billion on PAK-FA and lets not forget the MKI.

With 50 Billion Budget, Its Not Money but the ToT in Question.

Oye dumb retard. You think all 50 billion dollars will go in foreign acquisition? Who is going to pay the salaries, RnD, for the army, navy, BSF, coast guard etc?

Pata nahi kahan kahan se muh uthake chale ate hai.
 
. .
HASIMARA (NORTH BENGAL): The Indian Air Force (IAF) is hunting for fighter aircraft apart from the Rafale medium multi-role combat ones and the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) to meet the existing shortage, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha said after the handing over of Presidential Standards to two Mig-27ML squadrons by President Pranab Mukherjee at Air Force Station Hasimara on Saturday. The IAF would be forming several more squadrons in the next few years, the air chief said.

"There are shortages. We will be retiring the Mig-27MLs that have not been upgraded in the last 2-3 years. One of the squadrons at Hasimara will also be retired in 2016. We are looking forward to receiving the Rafales. Apart from this, there are other aircraft we are looking at. We will also be getting more Su-30MKIs. An order has also been placed for 120 Tejas Mk-IIs. There are many plans and things will change in the next 10-12 years," Raha said in response to a question from TOI.

He did not elaborate on which aircraft India has its eye set upon. According to sources, it could well be the F-18 Super Hornet that had competed with the Rafale when India was on the lookout for 126 MMRCAs. Recently, Boeing has offered to set up a manufacturing facility in India and manufacture F-18s to suit the country's needs. So has Dassault, the French company that manfactures Rafales. Without being specific, Raha made it clear that the IAF no longer wants to get over-reliant on any particular variety of aircraft. If the un-upgraded Mig-27MLs are to be retired, the IAF is likely to lose two more squadrons in the near future.

Raha said that creation of assets depends on threat perceptions and steps are being taken to build infrastructure. "There are voids, both infrastructure and security-wise, both in the northeastern states and elsewhere in the country. We are working towards upgrading Advanced Landing Grounds to accommodate fixed wing aircraft as well. As of now, we don't have plans to build new air bases in the northeastern sector but will upgrade existing ones. However, we are trying to share civil airfields at certain locations. The government is also looking towards the building of roads and other infrastructure for better connectivity and development, economic and otherwise," he said.

According to him, there are several unused air bases in West Bengal that may get activated in the days to come. Land acquisition is not and issue as the IAF has enough property of its own in the state. The Rampurhat air field has already been activated. Some IAF aircraft are also landing and taking-off from Rampurhat to check out conditions. Though infrastructure is being created in this sector, Raha doesn't believe that China should be treated as an adversary.

"They have been aggressive in the past. We do have some border issues but better co-operation and understanding will have to be achieved for overall development of the region. Both are large countries with huge populations. They can work better together. India has a very important role to play internationally and to maintain this, we will have to increase our military capabilities. While working towards this, there are plans to base important hardware at Hasimara."
India on the lookout for fighters apart from Rafales - The Times of India

there are not too many options
 
.
Should have gone for the Gripen. Congress screwed up everything. Indians lost a golden opportunity. Now these same countries offer less for more.


India should join hands with theF-16 or F-18 and customize it big time....The ability to manufacture in India should alleviated concerns about being subjected to sanctions or some other fairy tale BS.
 
.

Latest posts

Back
Top Bottom