India not joining line of west : Grave concern for the west

[BJP*]

For the umpteenth time, the West did not declare a war. Its not an invasion. Its a UNSC authorized implementation of a No-Fly zone and humanitarian intervention to stop Mad Ghaddafi's forces slaughtering Libyan civilians.

Recent mass protests and revolutions in North African countries have been having West's support despite the fact that 'leaders' like Mubarak were once West's blue eyed boys! So carrying the same momentum forward, Libyans protested against the dictatorship and now have the support of NATO/UNSC.

Did UN authorizes NATO to carryout operations .. If not it is INVASION

 

[gubbi]

Did UN authorizes NATO to carryout operations .. If not it is INVASION

A little Google search and keeping up-to-date with news helps.

SECURITY COUNCIL APPROVES ‘NO-FLY ZONE’ OVER LIBYA, AUTHORIZING ‘ALL NECESSARY MEASURES’ TO PROTECT CIVILIANS, BY VOTE OF 10 IN FAVOUR WITH 5 ABSTENTIONS

Resolution

The full text of resolution 1973 (2011) reads as follows:

“The Security Council,

“Recalling its resolution 1970 (2011) of 26 February 2011,

“Deploring the failure of the Libyan authorities to comply with resolution 1970 (2011),

“Expressing grave concern at the deteriorating situation, the escalation of violence, and the heavy civilian casualties,

“Reiterating the responsibility of the Libyan authorities to protect the Libyan population and reaffirming that parties to armed conflicts bear the primary responsibility to take all feasible steps to ensure the protection of civilians,

“Condemning the gross and systematic violation of human rights, including arbitrary detentions, enforced disappearances, torture and summary executions,

“Further condemning acts of violence and intimidation committed by the Libyan authorities against journalists, media professionals and associated personnel and urging these authorities to comply with their obligations under international humanitarian law as outlined in resolution 1738 (2006),

“Considering that the widespread and systematic attacks currently taking place in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya against the civilian population may amount to crimes against humanity,

“Recalling paragraph 26 of resolution 1970 (2011) in which the Council expressed its readiness to consider taking additional appropriate measures, as necessary, to facilitate and support the return of humanitarian agencies and make available humanitarian and related assistance in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,

“Expressing its determination to ensure the protection of civilians and civilian populated areas and the rapid and unimpeded passage of humanitarian assistance and the safety of humanitarian personnel,

“Recalling the condemnation by the League of Arab States, the African Union and the Secretary-General of the Organization of the Islamic Conference of the serious violations of human rights and international humanitarian law that have been and are being committed in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,

“Taking note of the final communiqué of the Organization of the Islamic Conference of 8 March 2011, and the communiqué of the Peace and Security Council of the African Union of 10 March 2011 which established an ad hoc High-Level Committee on Libya,

“Taking note also of the decision of the Council of the League of Arab States of 12 March 2011 to call for the imposition of a no-fly zone on Libyan military aviation, and to establish safe areas in places exposed to shelling as a precautionary measure that allows the protection of the Libyan people and foreign nationals residing in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,

“Taking note further of the Secretary-General’s call on 16 March 2011 for an immediate ceasefire,

“Recalling its decision to refer the situation in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya since 15 February 2011 to the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, and stressing that those responsible for or complicit in attacks targeting the civilian population, including aerial and naval attacks, must be held to account,

“Reiterating its concern at the plight of refugees and foreign workers forced to flee the violence in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, welcoming the response of neighbouring States, in particular Tunisia and Egypt, to address the needs of those refugees and foreign workers, and calling on the international community to support those efforts,

“Deploring the continuing use of mercenaries by the Libyan authorities,

“Considering that the establishment of a ban on all flights in the airspace of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya constitutes an important element for the protection of civilians as well as the safety of the delivery of humanitarian assistance and a decisive step for the cessation of hostilities in Libya,

“Expressing concern also for the safety of foreign nationals and their rights in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,

“Welcoming the appointment by the Secretary General of his Special Envoy to Libya, Mr. Abdul Ilah Mohamed Al-Khatib and supporting his efforts to find a sustainable and peaceful solution to the crisis in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,

“Reaffirming its strong commitment to the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and national unity of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,

“Determining that the situation in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya continues to constitute a threat to international peace and security,

“Acting under Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations,

“1. Demands the immediate establishment of a ceasefire and a complete end to violence and all attacks against, and abuses of, civilians;

“2. Stresses the need to intensify efforts to find a solution to the crisis which responds to the legitimate demands of the Libyan people and notes the decisions of the Secretary-General to send his Special Envoy to Libya and of the Peace and Security Council of the African Union to send its ad hoc High-Level Committee to Libya with the aim of facilitating dialogue to lead to the political reforms necessary to find a peaceful and sustainable solution;

“3. Demands that the Libyan authorities comply with their obligations under international law, including international humanitarian law, human rights and refugee law and take all measures to protect civilians and meet their basic needs, and to ensure the rapid and unimpeded passage of humanitarian assistance;

“Protection of civilians

“4. Authorizes Member States that have notified the Secretary-General, acting nationally or through regional organizations or arrangements, and acting in cooperation with the Secretary-General, to take all necessary measures, notwithstanding paragraph 9 of resolution 1970 (2011), to protect civilians and civilian populated areas under threat of attack in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, including Benghazi, while excluding a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory, and requests the Member States concerned to inform the Secretary-General immediately of the measures they take pursuant to the authorization conferred by this paragraph which shall be immediately reported to the Security Council;

“5. Recognizes the important role of the League of Arab States in matters relating to the maintenance of international peace and security in the region, and bearing in mind Chapter VIII of the Charter of the United Nations, requests the Member States of the League of Arab States to cooperate with other Member States in the implementation of paragraph 4;

“No-fly zone

“6. Decides to establish a ban on all flights in the airspace of the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya in order to help protect civilians;

“7. Decides further that the ban imposed by paragraph 6 shall not apply to flights whose sole purpose is humanitarian, such as delivering or facilitating the delivery of assistance, including medical supplies, food, humanitarian workers and related assistance, or evacuating foreign nationals from the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, nor shall it apply to flights authorised by paragraphs 4 or 8, nor other flights which are deemed necessary by States acting under the authorization conferred in paragraph 8 to be for the benefit of the Libyan people, and that these flights shall be coordinated with any mechanism established under paragraph 8;

“8. Authorizes Member States that have notified the Secretary-General and the Secretary-General of the League of Arab States, acting nationally or through regional organizations or arrangements, to take all necessary measures to enforce compliance with the ban on flights imposed by paragraph 6 above, as necessary, and requests the States concerned in cooperation with the League of Arab States to coordinate closely with the Secretary General on the measures they are taking to implement this ban, including by establishing an appropriate mechanism for implementing the provisions of paragraphs 6 and 7 above,

“9. Calls upon all Member States, acting nationally or through regional organizations or arrangements, to provide assistance, including any necessary overflight approvals, for the purposes of implementing paragraphs 4, 6, 7 and 8 above;

“10. Requests the Member States concerned to coordinate closely with each other and the Secretary-General on the measures they are taking to implement paragraphs 4, 6, 7 and 8 above, including practical measures for the monitoring and approval of authorised humanitarian or evacuation flights;

“11. Decides that the Member States concerned shall inform the Secretary-General and the Secretary-General of the League of Arab States immediately of measures taken in exercise of the authority conferred by paragraph 8 above, including to supply a concept of operations;

“12. Requests the Secretary-General to inform the Council immediately of any actions taken by the Member States concerned in exercise of the authority conferred by paragraph 8 above and to report to the Council within 7 days and every month thereafter on the implementation of this resolution, including information on any violations of the flight ban imposed by paragraph 6 above;

“Enforcement of the arms embargo

“13. Decides that paragraph 11 of resolution 1970 (2011) shall be replaced by the following paragraph : “Calls upon all Member States, in particular States of the region, acting nationally or through regional organisations or arrangements, in order to ensure strict implementation of the arms embargo established by paragraphs 9 and 10 of resolution 1970 (2011), to inspect in their territory, including seaports and airports, and on the high seas, vessels and aircraft bound to or from the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, if the State concerned has information that provides reasonable grounds to believe that the cargo contains items the supply, sale, transfer or export of which is prohibited by paragraphs 9 or 10 of resolution 1970 (2011) as modified by this resolution, including the provision of armed mercenary personnel, calls upon all flag States of such vessels and aircraft to cooperate with such inspections and authorises Member States to use all measures commensurate to the specific circumstances to carry out such inspections”;

“14. Requests Member States which are taking action under paragraph 13 above on the high seas to coordinate closely with each other and the Secretary-General and further requests the States concerned to inform the Secretary-General and the Committee established pursuant to paragraph 24 of resolution 1970 (2011) (“the Committee&#8221 immediately of measures taken in the exercise of the authority conferred by paragraph 13 above;

“15. Requires any Member State whether acting nationally or through regional organisations or arrangements, when it undertakes an inspection pursuant to paragraph 13 above, to submit promptly an initial written report to the Committee containing, in particular, explanation of the grounds for the inspection, the results of such inspection, and whether or not cooperation was provided, and, if prohibited items for transfer are found, further requires such Member States to submit to the Committee, at a later stage, a subsequent written report containing relevant details on the inspection, seizure, and disposal, and relevant details of the transfer, including a description of the items, their origin and intended destination, if this information is not in the initial report;

“16. Deplores the continuing flows of mercenaries into the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya and calls upon all Member States to comply strictly with their obligations under paragraph 9 of resolution 1970 (2011) to prevent the provision of armed mercenary personnel to the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya;

“Ban on flights

“17. Decides that all States shall deny permission to any aircraft registered in the Libyan Arab Jamahiriya or owned or operated by Libyan nationals or companies to take off from, land in or overfly their territory unless the particular flight has been approved in advance by the Committee, or in the case of an emergency landing;

“18. Decides that all States shall deny permission to any aircraft to take off from, land in or overfly their territory, if they have information that provides reasonable grounds to believe that the aircraft contains items the supply, sale, transfer, or export of which is prohibited by paragraphs 9 and 10 of resolution 1970 (2011) as modified by this resolution, including the provision of armed mercenary personnel, except in the case of an emergency landing;

Read the rest on the link provided. It might also help to read what resolutions under Chapter VII mean in UNSC as opposed to Chapter VI.


Also,
United Nations Security Council resolution on Libya No-Fly Zone has been approved

17 March 2011
UK Explanation of Vote delivered by Sir Mark Lyall Grant, Ambassador and Permanent Representative of the UK Mission to the UN, on Security Council Resolution on Libya

Thank you Mr President,

The situation in Libya is clear. A violent, discredited regime which has lost all legitimacy is using weapons of war against civilians.

Qadhafi’s regime has ignored this Council’s demand, in resolution 1970, that it stop the violence against the Libyan people.

It is now preparing for a violent assault on a city of one million people that has a history dating back 2,500 years. It has begun airstrikes in anticipation of what we expect to be a brutal attack using air, land and sea forces. Qadhafi has publicly promised no mercy and no pity.

We have also seen reports today of a grotesque offer of amnesty. This from a regime which has advertised its determination to continue persecuting and killing those Libyans who want only to take control of their own future.

The international community has come together in deploring the actions of the Qadhafi regime and demanding that the regime end this violence against the Libyan people.

International opinion has looked to the Security Council to act. The Arab League has been particularly clear in its demands, including for the imposition of a No-Fly Zone.

That is why the United Kingdom, in close cooperation with Lebanon and France has pressed for the early adoption of this resolution. My government welcomes the fact that the Council has acted swiftly and comprehensively in response to the appalling situation in Libya and to the appeal of the Arab League.

Mr President,

Resolution 1973:

Demands that Col Qadhafi implement an immediate ceasefire;
It imposes a No-Fly Zone to prevent the Qadhafi regime using air power against the Libyan people;
It authorises member states to take all necessary measures to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas under threat of attack. It rules out a foreign occupation force of any form on any part of Libyan territory;
It imposes a range of additional measures, including significant action to tighten enforcement of the arms embargo and to deny the regime access to funds.
We, along with partners in the Arab world and in NATO, are now ready to shoulder our responsibilities in implementing resolution 1973.

Mr President,

The central purpose of this resolution is clear: to end the violence, to protect civilians, and to allow the people of Libya to determine their own future, free from the tyranny of the Qadhafi regime.

The Libyan population want the same rights and freedoms that people across the Middle East and North Africa are demanding, and that are enshrined in the values of the United Nations Charter. Today’s resolution puts the weight of the Security Council squarely behind the Libyan people in defence of those values.

Thank you

 

[tallboy123]

india has done the right thing, very smart move to join the china camp well done to india, it is a good move to better relationship with china

Even Russia condemened Libyan air strikes ...did china joined the Russian camp..??
illogical and superiority complex as usual

We have our own non-aligned camp,and china has joined NAM....Well done

 

[fallstuff]

India has too many monkey on its back, its natural for India to abstain.

 

[Hafizzz]

Dude - there's something called "Principles", which cant be negotiated and rest all can wait !!! BTW we are waiting on Pak's statement ;-)

Pakistan is not obsessed with a permanent U.N. seat so Pakistan does not need to kowtow to the West.

 

[Nair saab]

west declared war for oil... and not to liberalize libyans....

Its not war on oil...US declared war cozz libiya is a major Oil producing nation...if a oil producing nation is not stable then it will affect the world economy.
& it is the duty of the world super like USA to keep the world economy stable...If it was India or China in USA place then they would have done the same...
prolonged power struggle in libya will also effect Oil price in India...so it is better that US quickly put an end tp this war by taming the Idiot called Gadaffi...

 

[desioptimist]

The current airstrike is to enforce the no fly zone. Indian govts stand is pathetic, if you cant help dont oppose at least.

 

[JanjaWeed]

guys.. it's pretty straight forward. share of the spoil is waiting for india if gaddafi manages to sustain the onslaught!! india too is learning the tricks of this trade!! part of those 70% of the oil going to european countries might find new destinations if gaddafi still holds on to the power!

 

[below_freezing]

for india there is no china camp... India do have its own camp and we call it NAM..

Its good to see china is joining NAM.... It is a good move to better relationship with India

We have always been part of NAM.

Non-Aligned Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However, certain Indians who live in the West and are paid highly by the CIA want India to join the Wall Street regime camp.

 

[Zeeshan360]

We have always been part of NAM.

Non-Aligned Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However, certain Indians who live in the West and are paid highly by the CIA want India to join the Wall Street regime camp.

China is an observer state AFAIK

 

[oct605032048]

India said the right thing !

Agreed.

This 'Operation Trojan Dawn' smells just like a hundred and fifty years ago when British and French invaded robbed and burned the Summer Palace.

 

[Avatar]

This thread is about India. Please stay focussed.



It's about principle.
Either you support people's right to democracy, or it's just empty slogans -- to be dispensed with at inopportune moments.

Supporting democracy and supporting the merciless bombardment of dictatorships by so called democracies are two entirely different things.

If India supports democracy, and wishes for China to be a democratic nation, does not mean that India support, encourage and participate in an agenda to forcefully install Democracy in the People's Republic of China no matter whatever are China's internal affairs. Whether they want democracy or not is entirely upto the people of that nation and none of India's personal business. The most we can do is educate or encourage them to go democratic, nobody should force their opinions onto others.

Just because Libya is a small and weak nation does not mean the stronger nations can form a venture and do as they please.

You gotta think straight and think beyond your illogical hatred for India.

You need to think straight.

 

[tallboy123]

We have always been part of NAM.

Non-Aligned Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However, certain Indians who live in the West and are paid highly by the CIA want India to join the Wall Street regime camp.

China has observer status not member..
here are the founder list:-
The organization was founded in Belgrade in 1961, and was largely the brainchild of Yugoslavia's President, Josip Broz Tito, India's first Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, Egypt's second President, Gamal Abdel Nasser, Ghana's first president Kwame Nkrumah, and Indonesia's first President, Sukarno. All five leaders were prominent advocates of a middle course for states in the Developing World between the Western and Eastern blocs in the Cold War.

 

[Vassnti]

FYI, Che is long dead and gone. The utopian ideals his image stands for are no-longer practically feasible or possible. "Rebels without a cause" is the apt description for Che wanna-be's. I know, I was once a wanna-be.

lol From Viva la revolution to do you feel lucky punk that sounds like a a journey worrth hearing.

 

[casual]

india don't have the balls to break from US and Europe.