India must go for Covert Action in Pakistan: Book

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Please send > 100,000. We'll teach you a lesson you'll never forget.

Current NATO forces are greater than that and have lost and can't get anywhere. Pakistan is not helping the resistance and this is the case.

You bhartis dream too much, all talk no action. Imagine this Pakistan in full support of Taliban agaist your 100,000 force, you'll be back in bharat within a month. 100% guaranteed.

How Many Innocent Pakistanis died in terror attacks ? I lol'd at "Pakistan in full support of Taliban" part Taste your own home-made medicine.

What Goes around Comes around.

 

[Paan Singh]

Another difference would be that India could rarely send it's own field operatives, whereas Pakistan has successfully sent field operatives on countless occasions.

Developereo, you should re-read the article. What they are proposing is that a team of Indian special forces will come and find a non-existent militant camp. Kill all 450 men inside of it. Rig it up with c4. Blow it up. Hijack a a military cargo plane and fly it back to India, while singing vande mataram.

While our military sits back and does nothing admitting defeat on Indian CNN.

india will be big fool if we try to do more...we never want afganistan border with us.There is limit to which pakistan can be destablized by us otherwise we will be on target.
so indian pressure is just to make sure that pakistan dont do anything or smthing like terrorism to india like before.we dont have interst in keeping american bases near india or even in a-stan.we cant change neighbors but it has to be realized by pakistan too that they cant get anything frm india

 

[Roybot]

No you are mistaken. I was under the impression that Indians have no idea of what covert means. Your bollywood war flicks leave a negative and comical impression upon you people to Pakistanis.

Uh ok. Anyways the author has no where mentioned overt special forces strikes into Pakistan, thats all in your head. And he is a senior researcher at a reputed insititute not some looney like Zion Hamid, so he would know the meaning of covert.

Dude not even the Seal team 6 could pull off what Ajmal Kasab and his boys pulled off in Mumbai.

Now sit down and think about that.

Mehran base attack is still the one to top though.

 

[K-Xeroid]

Kashmir insurgency and attacks gone, Maoists top leaders are being killed, we have more problems but we are tackling them. But you didn't answer that should we stop taking things seriously about external threats.

We are not talking about nuke strike, conventional war etc.

If you don't have solid argument, why bother debating with same lines repeated. Let other members of Pakistan come up and discuss this problem with rationality.

We got your point of tackling internal problem. So no need for you to post.

Cheers.

Well ! Related to Kashmir insurgencey.
Two tourists killed in Kashmir grenade attack - The Times of India
Maoist ? Still among the top internal Threat.
and several other insurgencies, But still Pakistan is in Headlines of indian newspapers. Why don't your try to provide evidences and avoid such mis-adventures . Your establishment is totaly depending on diplomatic pressure which is still very much unproductive to resolve current issues of india.

 

[KRAIT]

Dude not even the Seal team 6 could pull off what Ajmal Kasab and his boys pulled off in Mumbai.

Now sit down and think about that.

Seems like you are proud of kasab and other terrorists for killing innocent civilians. No wonder why people are getting paranoid about Pakistan. People like you are bringing bad name to your compatriots.

You have became your own enemy, taking away Pakistan from mainstream because of which no one wants to hear Pakistan's side of story, the people killed in Pakistan, Pakistan as a victim of terrorism . Why would others believe you as victim when people like you openly support terrorists like Kasab. This is also having its effect on your economy. You are living in UK while your brothers are in war with internal and external forces.

Instead of showing your support to these terrorists, try to make things easier for Pakistan to be heard at international level.

 

[RazPaK]

Seems like you are proud of kasab and other terrorists for killing innocent civilians. No wonder why people are getting paranoid about Pakistan. People like you are bringing bad name to your compatriots.

You have became your own enemy, taking away Pakistan from mainstream because of which no one wants to hear Pakistan's side of story, the people killed in Pakistan, Pakistan as a victim of terrorism . Why would others believe you as victim when people like you openly support terrorists like Kasab. This is also having its effect on your economy. You are living in UK while your brothers are in war with internal and external forces.

Instead of showing your support to these terrorists, try to make things easier for Pakistan to be heard at international level.

Haha. Cry some more. As If I care?


Nobody is supporting Kasab.


Just having some laughs at how incompetent Indian security forces are.

 

[bronxbull]

Kyazaroorat hain bhai bhejna kaa? Woh khud ek doosre ko kaat denge,humein kyun karna hain?

Razpak,aap volunteer kab karenge? Aaap ka photo newspaper mein dekhne ka hain.

 

[RazPaK]

Ok. Relax guys. The Indians will carry out covert actions against Pakistan(not that they have been paying others to do so already), and we will sit there like lambs to slaughter and be obedient and nonchalant about the whole ordeal. I hope everyone is now satisfied.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Don't underestimate us, we willl take india from india, Paan singh.

india will be big fool if we try to do more...we never want afganistan border with us.There is limit to which pakistan can be destablized by us otherwise we will be on target.
so indian pressure is just to make sure that pakistan dont do anything or smthing like terrorism to india like before.we dont have interst in keeping american bases near india or even in a-stan.we cant change neighbors but it has to be realized by pakistan too that they cant get anything frm india

 

[Rusty]

Same thing happens at your side, "will" build SSBN, "will" get Kashmir, "will" take control of Afghan. after 2014 and yada yada yada.


If Pakistanis got 1 rupee each for every Pakistan "will" thread then every single Pakistani would have more then a million DOLLARS. Also the debt would be paid, economy would have strengthen and no more aid will be required.

sorry buddy, but you are trying too hard.
how many "Pakistan will..." threads are there on this site? very very few
how many "India will..." threads? well, you would need a full week to count them.

Pakistan don't brag about things we will do....actually all of the world doesn't do it. only India seems to.

And it's cute that you think that you can make a cheap copy of my post, but just like most "India will...." threads, you fail

 

[Bang Galore]

OK, I didn't read the article too closely. My fault.

In that case, the author is having a drug-induced hallucination.

The reason the US (or Israel) can carry out such operations is NOT because of super-advanced technology, or particularly galling temerity, but because their operations are backed by the full might of their military capability. The adversary is powerless to respond even if the operation had not been covert.

In other words, much as the US media brags about the "bravery and skill" during the OBL raid, the fact is that there is very little Pakistan could have done even if the operation had been intercepted. Every US soldier is implicitly backed by the entire US military might and any country that takes him on risks escalating the conflict to involve the full US military machine.

In the case of India, there is no such overpowering disparity with Pakistan. Any Indian misadventures would trigger a response from Pakistan because the conflict escalation is manageable by Pakistan. In other words, before launching any covert operation, the Indian planners must be willing to accept full escalation as the worst case scenario.

That's not really much of a covert operation, is it? What would happen if a decision to launch large scale covert operations in Pakistan is the following:

#Employ local hired guns to bump off some of those on Indian target list.

#Keep Pakistan under pressure by substantially supporting with money & equipment any separatist group (Baluchistan would be a prime target, the Mohajirs cold be another as could other groups facing communal, intra religious violence)

#Undermine Pakistan's economy by pumping in fake money (like Pakistan has done but in much larger quantities)

#Keep raising the stake by pumping in substantial amounts of money in support of these operations, say to a tune of $2 billion a year.

The idea would be to keep Pakistan so meshed up fire fighting that taking India on then becomes even more unappetising. It could be done, the problem though is one does not want necessarily a collapse of the Pakistani state merely it to be preoccupied. However, like all operations, these things could very well take a life of its own though the danger to India itself would be limited by the fact that these are essentially Pakistani organisations being supported & will not necessarily have a similar impact to what has happened in Pakistani with militant outfits running rampant. The downside would be if the Pakistani state actually collapsed unexpectedly & crazier people took over. That is why this option must be done only as a last resort where the gains outweigh the risk significantly.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Actually we want to learn from Kasab how he fooled a "True Blue Water Navy" that had every possible sea asset at their disposal to guard the largest indian city and most important sea trade route?

We would also leike to learn how a bunch of regular 5 foot guys practically shut down the largest indian city for three days?

Seems like you are proud of kasab and other terrorists for killing innocent civilians. No wonder why people are getting paranoid about Pakistan. People like you are bringing bad name to your compatriots.

You have became your own enemy, taking away Pakistan from mainstream because of which no one wants to hear Pakistan's side of story, the people killed in Pakistan, Pakistan as a victim of terrorism . Why would others believe you as victim when people like you openly support terrorists like Kasab. This is also having its effect on your economy. You are living in UK while your brothers are in war with internal and external forces.

Instead of showing your support to these terrorists, try to make things easier for Pakistan to be heard at international level.

But these operations are happening since 1971? so whats new? now imagine if Pakistan starts something of this kind................

That's not really much of a covert operation, is it? What would happen if a decision to launch large scale cover operations in Pakistan is the following:

#Employ local hired guns to bump off some of those on Indian target list.

#Keep Pakistan under pressure by substantially supporting with money & equipment any separatist group (Baluchistan would be a prime target, the Mohajirs cold be another as could other groups facing communal, intra religious violence)

#Undermine Pakistan's economy by pumping in fake money (like Pakistan has done but in much larger quantities)

#Keep raising the stake by pumping in substantial amounts of money in support of these operations, say to a tune of $2 billion a year.

The idea would be to keep Pakistan so meshed up fire fighting that taking India on the becomes even more unappetising. It could be done, the problem though is one does not want necessarily a collapse of the Pakistani state merely it to be preoccupied. However, like all operations, these things could very well take a life of its own though the danger to India itself would be limited by the fact that these are essentially Pakistani organisations being supported & will not necessarily have a similar impact to what has happened in Pakistani with ****** outfits running rampant. The downside would be if the Pakistani state actually collapsed unexpectedly & crazier people took over. That is why this option must be done only as a last resort where the gains outweigh the risk significantly.

 

[meena24]

These Indians cannot put down their Maoist insurgency, yet they want to go COMMANDO on Pakistan.


It is not me that humiliates these Indians. They honestly do it to themselves.

Every one knows how your army defeated TTP in orakzai and Kurram agency, so called your SSG commandos entered there only to get beheaded.

I was shocked when i came yesterday because there was a title Fighter Jets pound militant hideouts in orakzai, It seems again a operation has started to flush out militants, If victory is declared - It is eighth time, Your PAF cant even take Baitullah Meshud who was very much inside pakistan, Please dont speak about us.

Actually we want to learn from Kasab how he fooled a "True Blue Water Navy" that had every possible sea asset at their disposal to guard the largest indian city and most important sea trade route?

We would also leike to learn how a bunch of regular 5 foot guys practically shut down the largest indian city for three days?






But these operations are happening since 1971? so whats new? now imagine if Pakistan starts something of this kind................

Actually we want to learn from hakimullah meshud how to operate in Pakistani air bases and naval bases and destroy Pakistani equipment. They fooled so called Pakistani Navy,Pakistani airforce. One shot double impact.

Don't underestimate us, we willl take india from india, Paan singh.

Not again thats why ISI relied on CIA, to take out Baitullah meshud.

 

[KRAIT]

Actually we want to learn from Kasab how he fooled a "True Blue Water Navy" that had every possible sea asset at their disposal to guard the largest indian city and most important sea trade route?

We would also leike to learn how a bunch of regular 5 foot guys practically shut down the largest indian city for three days?
You can't. Entire world will come against you ept few countries.
But these operations are happening since 1971? so whats new? now imagine if Pakistan starts something of this kind................

You can't


You will be giving them a good reason to weaken you economically with sanctions on the name of Human rights. Where as India has been seen as victim of terrorism for so long, they have sympathy with us.

That was one of our victory when we pasted this image of victims through our media and intelligence agencies.

Also India is a need of many powerful countries where as Pakistan is just of China. After 2014, aggressive policies by US led nations will pull their strings. And many good posters of your side see this scenario to happen possibly.

sorry buddy, but you are trying too hard.
how many "Pakistan will..." threads are there on this site? very very few
how many "India will..." threads? well, you would need a full week to count them.

Pakistan don't brag about things we will do....actually all of the world doesn't do it. only India seems to.

And it's cute that you think that you can make a cheap copy of my post, but just like most "India will...." threads, you fail

"India will thread " are because of advancements we are making in every field, in defense, in space, in upliftment programs, education and foreign policy.

Should I start posting all the future projects...?

India will because India CAN....

 

[Developereo]

That's not really much of a covert operation, is it? What would happen if a decision to launch large scale cover operations in Pakistan is the following:

#Employ local hired guns to bump off some of those on Indian target list.

#Keep Pakistan under pressure by substantially supporting with money & equipment any separatist group (Baluchistan would be a prime target, the Mohajirs cold be another as could other groups facing communal, intra religious violence)

#Undermine Pakistan's economy by pumping in fake money (like Pakistan has done but in much larger quantities)

#Keep raising the stake by pumping in substantial amounts of money in support of these operations, say to a tune of $2 billion a year.

The idea would be to keep Pakistan so meshed up fire fighting that taking India on then becomes even more unappetising. It could be done, the problem though is one does not want necessarily a collapse of the Pakistani state merely it to be preoccupied. However, like all operations, these things could very well take a life of its own though the danger to India itself would be limited by the fact that these are essentially Pakistani organisations being supported & will not necessarily have a similar impact to what has happened in Pakistani with militant outfits running rampant. The downside would be if the Pakistani state actually collapsed unexpectedly & crazier people took over. That is why this option must be done only as a last resort where the gains outweigh the risk significantly.

What he said:

But these operations are happening since 1971? so whats new?