India might have a thermonuclear Bomb upto 200 Kilo Tonnes !!

[BlackSonic]

remember, in terms of industrialization and weapon quality, there is a 40 years gap between india and China.

you even could not build a MBT on your own.

 

[sarthak]

by the time india hit Lahore, our CJ-10 is already on its way to your PM and defence minister's offices and homes.

Duh , it will be on its way . But it will never reach.

 

[sarthak]

meaningful discussion is how india can make such a sissy h-bomb only equals to 200 kilo tonnes. it is also funny that indian members thought it is a decent figure.

Have you been taught a term called " minimum nuclear detterent"
no , definetely you haven't

If we wish , we can build a bomb of a megaton range , but its just that we want to maintain our reputation as a peaceful country.

And as for your missile argument, Unless you are a total ideot , u will understand that india doesn't need ICBMs to hit china. Agni 2 and 3 are good enough.

 

[Honor]

Have you been taught a term called " minimum nuclear detterent"
no , definetely you haven't

If we wish , we can build a bomb of a megaton range , but its just that we want to maintain our reputation as a peaceful country.

And as for your missile argument, Unless you are a total ideot , u will understand that india doesn't need ICBMs to hit china. Agni 2 and 3 are good enough.

India did not have the capability to build a megaton bomb yet! I do not doubt it will in future.

Current India nuclear capability did not have minimum nuclear deterent. As far as i know, China nuclear stock had minimum nuclear deterent as it can destroyed Earth 1X. Russia and USA had over exceeded this capability which economically make so sense.

 

[Spitfighter]

India did not have the capability to build a megaton bomb yet! I do not doubt it will in future.

Current India nuclear capability did not have minimum nuclear deterent. As far as i know, China nuclear stock had minimum nuclear deterent as it can destroyed Earth 1X. Russia and USA had over exceeded this capability which economically make so sense.

A few MIRV's with 200 kiloton nuclear warheads are enough to cause unacceptable damage.

Would China risk losing Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong over India?

The idea here is to make a nuclear exchange too expensive. We don't have to match China's nuclear arsenal for an effective deterrent, we just need to make sure that China knows we have 'enough'.

 

[Trisonics]

1/5 of the car production clearly reflects the different industrial capacity of the two nations.

trust me dude, you won't export any single car when you must have 12 million of them produced in india to meet the local demand -- because your capacity is only about 2-3 million.

The different industrial capacity you are talking about is this????

hmmmmm you know what please take the lead if this makes you proud

 

[applesauce]

A few MIRV's with 200 kiloton nuclear warheads are enough to cause unacceptable damage.

Would China risk losing Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong over India?

The idea here is to make a nuclear exchange too expensive. We don't have to match China's nuclear arsenal for an effective deterrent, we just need to make sure that China knows we have 'enough'.

which brings to point, what operational MIRV missiles are deployed?

 

[applesauce]

The different industrial capacity you are talking about is this????

the one where we build, make practically everything in large quantities

 

[ouiouiouiouiouioui]

Preparing for a Nuclear Attack: Some Background28 Nov 2008 / Nuclear Attack


Dangers of a Nuclear Attack

I’m sure there was a collective ‘duh’ over the title of this section! The bottom line though is that if you are not in the proximity of the initial blast then the danger to you isn’t the actual explosion – it’s what happens AFTER the explosion.

Initial Blast Zone

What is the ‘initial blast zone’? Most research is based on the expectation that the bomb is a 10-kiloton warhead with a ground burst – meaning it explodes on the ground rather than in the air. Given this scenario, the initial blast zone is a 1 mile radius from where the bomb is detonated. Within this radius you can expect almost total destruction lessening as you get farther from the detonation point. The actual blast will flatten buildings and everything else around. The radiation from the explosion will burn up nearly everything within the zone. The only real chance of survival from deep within this zone is to be in a hardened underground shelter – and you’ll be there for a very long time.

Secondary Effected Zone

This zone extends in about a 12 mile radius from the Initial Detonation. Within this area there will be destruction from thrown material from the Blast Zone and extensive radiation from the detonation. This area will also be thickly covered with radioactive fallout within minutes of the Initial Detonation.
Radiation

Outside of the initial blast zone the Primary Threat is going to be exposure to radiation. This will probably not be enough to kill you right away – the real danger is being exposed to enough radiation that it will slowly kill you over a couple days or weeks. Further out, the danger is being exposed to enough radiation that over time you will develop major cancers that will kill you over several months. To survive this, you must be in a radiation safe shelter when the bomb explodes.

Fallout

Fallout is the danger to the rest of us. That huge mushroom cloud that we all know is associated with a nuclear detonation is the result of the explosion, it is all the dust and debris being blasted up into the air – completely radiated. This fallout, once airborne, can travel long distances before settling to the ground. Think of it as ash from a fire that is blown around in the air. As it settles on the ground it continues to be radioactive, potentially contaminating whatever it has come in contact with. The half-life of this radioactive fallout is anywhere from 3 days to 3 weeks. That is, within 3 days to 3 weeks the radiation will have dissipated enough that it is ’safe’ to venture out for short periods of time. During the fallout danger period, it is imperative that you remain in a fallout-safe shelter and that you take radiation meds

 

[ouiouiouiouiouioui]

self delete....

 

[Spring Onion]

I thought i was going to get some sensible analysis here in this thread but seems its all trash except few posts.


So what is the real motive behind disclosing that ? or repeating if India had accepted it has one in the past ?

 

[sarthak]

India did not have the capability to build a megaton bomb yet! I do not doubt it will in future.

Current India nuclear capability did not have minimum nuclear deterent. As far as i know, China nuclear stock had minimum nuclear deterent as it can destroyed Earth 1X. Russia and USA had over exceeded this capability which economically make so sense.

Yes , it is true. But the fact still remains that an yield of 200 kilotons is extremely destructive.

I don't think India will ever have a megaton range weapon simply because we are not seeking one. Even if we are , it will be near impossible to test it.

 

[booo]

Kakodkar lying about nukes, says ex-DRDO scientist

New Delhi: Former chairman of Atomic Energy Commission Dr Anil Kakodkar's interview to CNN-IBN and his claims about India's nuclear arsenal have led to fresh controversy.

Former Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) scientist K Santhanam has rubbished Kakodkar's claims saying the former Atomic Energy Commission chairman is lying over India's nuclear deterrence.

Santhanam accused Kakodkar of bluffing the Indian armed forces by saying that the country has a credible thermonuclear deterrence.

In an interview to The Times of India, Santhanam took on Kakodkar, saying, "I can only describe what he is saying as an absolute lie. As the programme coordinator I was responsible for not just the entire management but also site instrumentation meant to measure the yields."

"Relying on one of the thermonuclear device that was tested in May 1998 is not of sufficient credibility. More so because the yield of the thermonuclear device was claimed to be 45 kilo tonnes, while world wide measurements as the site instrumentation DRDO claims indicated that the yield of the thermonuclear device was far below the claimed figure of 45 kilo tonnes. Armed forces have been told that thermonuclear device worked, where as the scientific truth is that it fizzled. The Government of India as well as people of India will not rest contended till a credible thermonuclear deterrent is designed and tested," Santhanam told CNN-IBN.

Use plural, India has thermonuclear bombs: Kakodkar
"I don't think there is any cause for alarm and dismay because no single country has ever succeeded in its first thermonuclear test or it's first hydrogen bomb. So it means go back to your drawing tables and do more honest homework and refine. If and when the opportunity presents itself to conduct, I would suggest to conduct few more thermonuclear test," he said.

Kakodkar in an exclusive interview with CNN-IBN said that Santhanam had no idea about the state of affairs as he was only responsible for logistical support.

Santhanam, however, said there was no scientific proof to back Kakodkar's claims that India has more than one hydrogen bomb.

"By attacking my credibility, he is attacking the entire department's credibility. There are severe inaccuracies in Kakodkar's claims," Sanmthnam added.

Earlier this year, the former DRDO scientist had sparked a controversy when he said the yield of the thermo-nuclear tests at Pokhran was much lower than what was claimed.

 

[FreekiN]

Yeah Lahore is on the border, no one is gonna be stupid enough to hit that with a nuke... with the radioactive debris flying for miles into india...

 

[FreekiN]

"Pakistan tested different types of warheads. Three were 30 – 35 kiloton (kT) yield (an effect equivalent of 30,000 -35,000 tons of standard TNT explosives); two of the warheads delivered a 12 kt yield and four was a low-yield (less than 1 kT) warhead. Analysts assume Pakistan could have developed operational 'tactical' warheads of 20 to 25 kt and 150 kilotons as well as heavy warheads with a yield of 300–500 kt. The low-yield weapons are probably designed to be carried by fighter bombers, such as Pakistan's F-16 Fighting Falcon or French Mirage 5 aircraft. Furthermore, these warheads are presumably fitted to Pakistan's short-range ballistic missiles. The higher-yield warheads are probably fitted to the Shaheen and Ghauri ballistic missiles."

Pakistan's Nukes - Al-Qaeda's Next Strategic Surprise? - Defense Update News Analysis

Everything is a 'probably' or a 'could have' whether it being Pakistani or Indian. I guess we will never know...