India may not admit it but its new deal with the US can change the balance of power in Asia

[Indiran Chandiran]

Both of those things are correct.

India has sold their sovereignty to the US military by signing the LEMOA. India has no capability to make them leave if they don't want to, you have to rely on the good will of these Western militaries.

Why are you avoiding my questions? @Chinese-Dragon

Is it true that the Chinese people feel like a jilted lover .After all the affections the US bestowed upon you . After all those numerous assembly units that US companies opened up in China along with Europe .After that extended honeymoon that the west enjoyed with you right through the cold war till 2000 is gradually ending .You're feeling insecure about being abandoned ???!!???

But when will PRC show some spine. After all India is openly defying China by hosting the Dalai Lama. When will PRC ram the next USN frigate committing innocent passage right across the Nine Dash Line in the SCS .

PRC is a super power.Why should PRC fear the US.If US & ROK deploy THAAD , why can't PRC do the same in say Venezuela or perhaps Cuba or even Bolivia or Nicaragua.

Isn't it time to behave like a 13 trillion dollar economy?Or if nothing else , they ought to sign LEMOA with these countries. You ought to teach these arrogant Americans a lesson .only Zhongghuo can do that .

And yes, Buddha was from what is now modern-day Nepal, long before India was created by the Western colonialists (British India). And Nepal was never even a part of British India, let alone the Republic of India.

Please refer to the map in Wikimapia.That part of Nepal was under Tibetan suzeriainity .And since Tibet has always paid tribute to Zhonnguo , technically the Buddha is a Chinese citizen .

 

[raj76]

It was not a mistake for India to start the 1962 war, after all China at that time was in the middle of our worst ever famine (Great leap forward). It was the best time to attack China from a pragmatic standpoint, and that's what Nehru did with his Forward Policy.

The mistake was India believing that American support was the only thing they needed. But as they should know by now, America always stands back and watches happily as their pawns lose large chunks of territory to China/Russia. India lost Aksai Chin for example, the Philippines lost the Scarborough shoal, Vietnam lost the Paracel islands, Ukraine lost Crimea, etc.

or put it that way u had nothing to loose at that time but now its different neither u or us afford a war but we wont put our guard down

 

[Nilgiri]

India has sold their sovereignty to the US military by signing the LEMOA. India has no capability to make them leave if they don't want to, you have to rely on the good will of these Western militaries.

You have no idea about what transit means and how its specified in LEMOA (log, charter wise). Oh wait you haven't even read LEMOA....so you continue your igno - "rant"

And yes, Buddha was from what is now modern-day Nepal, long before India was created by the Western colonialists (British India). And Nepal was never even a part of British India, let alone the Republic of India.

You have no idea what Indian kingdoms are either....what the word Nepal means. Its like saying the efforts of various kings in the Chola empire do not fall under the purview of India today, because they were born in todays Sri Lanka. You basically have no understanding or concept of what the Indian nation entails beyond its current political borders....or the relevance of the political borders in the first place to begin with.

Basically a CPC style 5 cent ignorance. Anyway keep braying and exposing your inpetitudeto everyone here. Its fun to watch.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You basically have no understanding or concept of what the Indian nation entails beyond its current political borders....or the relevance of the political borders in the first place to begin with.

Basically a CPC style 5 cent ignorance. Anyway keep braying and exposing your inpetitudeto everyone here. Its fun to watch.

You mean all of India's borders that are named after white British people, like Henry McMahon?

 

[Jlaw]

No .your leaders are true nationalists .From L Bo Xilai to Xi Jinpeng .Here is a good example of your patriotic leadership.While it doesn't implicate Xi Jinping , it certainly has a lot to say about his immediate extended family .Since Bloomberg is banned in PRC , I can fetch other articles too.Not for you .But about your enlightened purer than white leadership for the benefit of the rest of your country cousins who post in this forum.Do go through the full article -

Xi Jinping Millionaire Relations Reveal Fortunes of Elite

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June 29, 2012 — 1:02 PM IST
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Xi Jinping, vice president of China, visits the China Shipping terminal at the Port of Los Angeles in Los Angeles, California, U.S., on Thursday, Feb. 16, 2012. Source: Bloomberg

Xi Jinping, the man in line to be China’s next president, warned officials on a 2004 anti-graft conference call: “Rein in your spouses, children, relatives, friends and staff, and vow not to use power for personal gain.”

As Xi climbed the Communist Party ranks, his extended family expanded their business interests to include minerals, real estate and mobile-phone equipment, according to public documents compiled by Bloomberg.

Those interests include investments in companies with total assets of $376 million; an 18 percent indirect stake in a rare-earths company with $1.73 billion in assets; and a $20.2 million holding in a publicly traded technology company. The figures don’t account for liabilities and thus don’t reflect the family’s net worth.




I think you're confusing India for your iron brother or perhaps ROC.

@Chinese-Dragon you know you won the argument when they resort to changing the topic and not replying to your post.

 

[Nilgiri]

You mean all of India's borders that are named after white British people, like Henry McMahon?

Is the word China from Chinese?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Is the word China from Chinese?

Of course. It is based off the Qin/Chin State, which was when China was first united over 2000 years ago.

And no, none of China's borders are named after white British people like Henry McMahon, because we were not created by Western colonialism like India was.

China was first united into a nation state by the Qin/Chin Emperor several millenia ago. And before that we were a civilization state for a few thousand years more, but not as a unified political entity.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Who is complaining? Why would Chinese and Pakistanis complain when India willingly chose to surrender their own sovereignty to America?

??? Pakistan already signed things more extreme than this in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan–United_States_military_relations

2009 Google Earth reveals US drones at Shamsi base
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/gec-current-events/UW9L0Slmsvs/Ck71Td5DJQMJ

 

[Jlaw]

Of course. It is based off the Qin/Chin State, which was when China was first united over 2000 years ago.

And no, none of China's borders are named after white British people like Henry McMahon, because we were not created by Western colonialism like India was.

China was first united into a nation state by the Qin/Chin Emperor several millenia ago. And before that we were a civilization state for a few thousand years more, but not as a unified political entity.

I would have to disagree with your last point. Even during warring states, China had same political system, same language , customs, ethnic group....
But let's get back on topic about India allowing US bases in their country

 

[Nilgiri]

Of course. It is based off the Qin/Chin State, which was when China was first united over 2000 years ago.

And no, none of China's borders are named after white British people like Henry McMahon, because we were not created by Western colonialism like India was.

China was first united into a nation state by the Qin/Chin Emperor several millenia ago. And before that we were a civilization state for a few thousand years more, but not as a unified political entity.

Show me the pinyin for "China" and the official status of this term.

Why do we all call you China and not Zhongguo? Do Chinese use the word "China" (as its pronounced) when talking in Mandarin?

 

[Maira La]

I would have to disagree with your last point. Even during warring states, China had same political system, same language , customs, ethnic group....
But let's get back on topic about India allowing US bases in their country

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Just to add to it, China's civilization is native to it's land. Whereas India's "civilization" (Vedas, Sanskrit) were imported from Central Asia.

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[xyxmt]

it is a cheap way of keeping some friends on the west and north off balance

a super power needed help from another super power to keep a a failing state away....ch ch ch
Ab aesa time bhi ana tha

by the way when did US came to help the other friend on the west, remember the 7th fleet

 

[Bad Guy]

Exactly.

Everywhere that provides logistics support for the US military is essentially the same as a US military base, and they have a lot of wars in Asia that they will use it for.

But it is much cheaper for them, since they can allow the vassal nation to do all the maintenance and upkeep work on the bases.

No, many of our naval vessels can reach there.

 

[wiseone2]

a super power needed help from another super power to keep a a failing state away....ch ch ch
Ab aesa time bhi ana tha

by the way when did US came to help the other friend on the west, remember the 7th fleet

when is the job of USA to bail out every client state from the shit they get into ?

a super power needed help from another super power to keep a a failing state away....ch ch ch
Ab aesa time bhi ana tha

by the way when did US came to help the other friend on the west, remember the 7th fleet

did china rescue their all weather friend ??

 

[CBU-105]

trying to prove why India has not sold its sovereignty. Though you know it has, if China pulled the same stunt you would definitely agree.

China can not pull any similar stunt because you guys are already under sanction for decades now for driving tanks over your people.

India has sold their sovereignty to the US military

I thought I'd known you to be more intelligent than this yet you continue to ignore the facts and behave like a 9 year old in your failed attempts at somehow trying to shame people, and it's not working.

We can live with your tag of sovereignty sold, and that the US will never leave because we are a now a 'vassal' state, no problem.