India lashes out against ‘powerless’ UN Security Council

[kadamba-warrior]

Can you read? Thread title: India lashes out against ‘powerless’ UN Security Council.

Yeah because the UNSC is so powerless and India is a superpower right? So why are you begging for a P5 seat?

Attacking the UNSC while begging for a permanent seat at the same time. At least make up your minds.

Did you just read the title or the full article? Or did you read my comment before rushing to reply?

India is, justifiably angry for lack of transparency and accountability that are causing the deaths of peace-keeping troops, for which she is the biggest contributor. In other words, Indian troops, among others, are getting killed because the UNSC can't mount a reasonably co-ordinated, transparent command for peace-keeping operations!

I know you like to cock a snook at every opportunity for India for having to depend on the unanimity among P5 to have a realistic chance at being a member herself, but it is spectacularly off topic.

You would do well to stay on topic and comment about the issues on accountability, co-ordination and lack of transparency among UNSC!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Did you just read the title or the full article? Or did you read my comment before rushing to reply?

India is, justifiably angry for lack of transparency and accountability that are causing the deaths of peace-keeping troops, for which she is the biggest contributor. In other words, Indian troops, among others, are getting killed because the UNSC can't mount a reasonably co-ordinated, transparent command for peace-keeping operations!

I know you like to cock a snook at every opportunity for India for having to depend on the unanimity among P5 to have a realistic chance at being a member herself, but it is spectacularly off topic.

You would do well to stay on topic and comment about the issues on accountability, co-ordination and lack of transparency among UNSC!

As I said, Modi is using the deaths of Peacekeepers for "political point scoring", using the same narrative that you use when trying to grab a P5 seat, that the UNSC is "powerless and ineffective" (subtext: without India).

If he really valued the lives of those Peacekeepers he wouldn't be point scoring about how useless and ineffective the UNSC is, and simply trying to grab a seat by any means possible.

 

[dadeechi]

Sure, Modi is using the deaths of Peacekeepers as "political point scoring", trying to push India's agenda of getting a P5 seat by accusing the UNSC of being powerless and ineffective, obviously since it doesn't include the superpower India.

If he really valued the lives of those Peacekeepers he wouldn't be point scoring about how useless and ineffective the UNSC is, and simply trying to grab a seat by any means possible.

Then you do not understand India at all. I think your judgment has been blinded by your animosity towards India.

India does not get it's voice from UNSC or NSG or MTCR seats.

India has always fought based on it's beliefs in righteousness and equality.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

As I said, Modi is using the deaths of Peacekeepers for "political point scoring", using the same narrative that you use when trying to grab a P5 seat, that the UNSC is "powerless and ineffective" (subtext: without India).

Nobody is using anything, but calling for greater accountability, transparency and co-ordination among UNSC when it comes to International Peace Keeping missions, in which India is the biggest stake holder!

Like I said, India wanting to join P5 is not only offtopic, but is an indication of how casually you take the deaths of International Troops that go on for peace-keeping missions elsewhere!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

India has always fought based on it's beliefs in righteousness and equality.

I can't believe you are serious, considering the Indian Caste System is the largest system of racial discrimination in the history of the Earth.

Every other day there is news of Dalits being murdered/raped by higher castes for petty and trivial things.

Nobody is using anything, but calling for greater accountability, transparency and co-ordination among UNSC when it comes to International Peace Keeping missions, in which India is the biggest stake holder!

Like I said, India wanting to join P5 is not only offtopic, but is an indication of how casually you take the deaths of International Troops that go on for peace-keeping missions elsewhere!

Yet you are the ones blatantly point scoring over it, just look at the thread title.

You are rubbing your hands with glee at the prospect of furthering your old narrative that the UNSC is powerless and ineffective, since it doesn't include the superpower India. The same old narrative, on the bones of Peacekeepers.

 

[dadeechi]

I can't believe you are serious, considering the Indian Caste System is the largest system of racial discrimination in the history of the Earth.

Every other day there is news of Dalits being murdered by higher castes for petty and trivial things.

Like I said your judgment has been blinded by your animosity towards India.

I never claimed that there is no crime or corruption or sin in India.

You should not talk about things that you have no clue about.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Yet you are the ones blatantly point scoring over it, just look at the thread title.

You are rubbing your hands with glee at the prospect of furthering your old narrative that the UNSC is powerless and ineffective, since it doesn't include the superpower India. The same old narrative, on the bones of Peacekeepers.

Hey pal, you need to restrict your comments to what's said in OP. Or else, shut the eff up! Not let your imagination run amok by bringing in India's "morality", "life expectancy", "Child mortality" and "malnutrition" and India's intent to join P5 into a thread which is only calling more better transparency, accountability and co-ordination.

On topic:
The troop fatalities point to a deeper malaise in the way UNSC conducts its peace-keeping missions. The peacekeeping missions themselves have disproportionately far more troops/foot soldiers from developing countries (India, Pakistan/BD) but are commanded by developed/P5 countries who have no co-ordination/similarity with the troops and often suffer from language/cultural barriers and difference in training.

The developed countries and P5, who don't commit proportionate troops, seem to think that by throwing money at the problem, they can get the problem solved. They need to start by contributing proportionate troops/foot soldiers to International Peace Keeping missions. Secondly, the command structure itself should be made more organic in order for better co-ordination.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Shut the eff up!

Someone is upset apparently?

Why is India point scoring over the deaths of Peacekeepers, should be the main question. Why so desperate for a seat?

Can't you make your point without rehashing your same old desperate narrative that the P5 is "powerless and ineffective" in its current form, i.e. without India?

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Someone is upset apparently?

Why is India point scoring over the deaths of Peacekeepers, should be the main question. Why so desperate for a seat?

Can't you make your point without rehashing your same old desperate narrative that the P5 is "powerless and ineffective" in its current form, i.e. without India?

As expected, you ignored the whole comment but went on a tangent as usual! You are getting too predictable, pal!

If you cared to read my comment, I even made 2 suggestions on how to improve co-ordination and bring accountability in peace-keeping missions - without even granting India the permanent membership!

The only person in this thread, talking about India wanting a permanent seat, like a broken record, is you. Not the OP, not even implied!

What's your problem, mate? As a senior member, can't you talk beyond one single point which is nothing but a figment of your own imagination?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Again??

 

[nik141991]

Again??

Regarding peacekeeping forces buddy

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

So India is using the deaths of Peacekeepers for "political point scoring", trying to push their narrative of the UNSC being weak and powerless so they can get their hands on a P5 seat?

You attack the Security Council, then you beg to join it at the same time?

How will adding India suddenly make the Security Council better? Because Modi/India is an upstanding beacon of morality?

Have you even read the International News headlines today? India is mentioned (multiple incidents in Delhi) but it has nothing to do with their moral worth being so much better than that of the P5. The opposite in fact.

To be clear I don't believe morality has anything to do with geopolitics, in geopolitics only national interests matter. No country deserves to get on a moral high horse above the others, and especially not India.

And especially not while using the deaths of Peacekeepers for political point scoring.

We have a right to lash at P-5 in this particular case as we are the largest contributor of troops, and not China or the P5. Nowhere in the statement its mentioned, that making UNSC P6 will make it stronger. Read the news properly instead of trolling.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

We have a right to lash at P-5 in this particular case as we are the largest contributor of troops, and not China or the P5. Nowhere in the statement its mentioned, that making UNSC P6 will make it stronger. Read the news properly instead of trolling.

So UNSC is powerless yet you are moaning at rejection ?


As for troop contribution ... India stands 3rd or 2nd.. Biggest contributor is Bangladesh ...
UN Peacekeeping: Bangladesh, India and Pakistan’s Troop Contributions

Aswell as Pak (in the past)... Why are these countries sending peacekeepers? Coz of the fukin money! Not out if some civic sense of duty or other BS!

Also the track record of Indian peacekeepers is stained ... Specially after DR Congo episode (the only nation whose peacekeepers are banned by another country ...).
@Chinese-Dragon

Also for a seat .. india doesn't even fit the bill... With disputes with its neighbours still pending... Apart from other issues...

 

[dadeechi]

Also for a seat .. india doesn't even fit the bill... With disputes with its neighbours still pending...

China has disputes with at least half a dozen countries and still continues as a member of UNSC.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

China has disputes with at least half a dozen countries and still continues as a member of UNSC.

And hasn't gone to war in half a century...

Also the Chinese have held the seat since the formation of UN... Due to World War "policy"...