India - Jobless engineer slits son's throat, takes poison with wife : Cops

[Drizzt]

India's socio-economic system in the cities for the middle class ( any variety of this ) is built upon wage slavery and month to month existence in general. And India probably is the most competitive society in the world. A dog-eat-dog society. The basic necessities ( housing, basic food, education, healthcare, electricity, water etc ) are all not free. Hence, like I said earlier, it becomes desperation through helplessness in front of the unmoving and ruthless socio-economic system that the citizen has to endure. Some continue to exist in misery, some commit suicide, like those youths in your linked article or like about the family in this thread's OP.



Sorry but that is quite a ruthless and incomplete statement. While yes in the current, unnecessarily highly competitive employment system an individual can choose, if they get the opportunity, to reskill It is really the job of the governance system to ensure a scientific and societally useful employment system and workforce. For example on mostly-non-useful employment / skilling, there are 2+ million computer engineers in India yet there is not a single Indian / local / indigenous design of the two most fundamental elements in a classical computer - the microprocessor and the operating system. I can speak with some authority about this because I have been designing these two things for the last few years and hope to start a company to commercially develop them. But what of those two million, with many of them being PhDs and all ? What has been their use to India at the least and the world next ? What has the government been doing about this ? What are the skills of these two million ?

I will speak about the topic of agriculture. If the government would have actually built 100 new actually Smart Cities the cities would have had neighborhood-level Vertical Farms and general Urban Farms and the cities being connected by big water pipelines ( like the Libyan project - Great Manmade River project ) and the farms worked upon by basis of collectivized labor and used computer-controlled plant / tree / crop management. All these new elements would have necessitated the employment and upskilling of farmers, computer engineers, civil engineers ( I will remind of the main topic of this thread ), civil security specialists, landscape architects, public transport designers etc.



Yes, to be a jack of all trades is a good thing.



But it's not like Indian villages are founts of Ideal Communist caringness and harmony. Don't honor killings happen there ? Don't land disputes happen ? And why do farmer suicides happen there ( just between 1995 and 2015 more than 300,000 farmers committed suicide mainly because of the 3000-year-old "Indian" extremely Capitalist socio-economic system. 300,000+ can be the population of a town ! These farmers should have organized and revolted ) ? Do the relatives and neighbors of these about-to-suicide farmers help them survive ? Or are they able to ? Indian villages have the same socio-economic problems as Indian cities. All should organize or at least support progressive individuals and groups and help change the country.



That is because life in the village is a bit cheaper than life in the city.



Agreed.



Agreed.



Good article by Kancha Ilaiah.



I don't think the caste census will be actually required if the opposition parties and other progressive movements and individual activists and thinkers speak for a welfare state society for India within the next five years.

You tell me what will be the benefit of this caste census and the result in the next five years.

If the so-called nationalists ( we know who they are ) keep taunting the progressives of being "anti-nationals" ( please read this thread of mine ) the "anti-nationals" should preach for turning India into a welfare state within five years. The "nationalists" shouldn't technically have a problem with this. Please read this thread of mine about a proposal for a new socio-economic system which will eradicate economic classification and disparity, non-availability of basic needs, reasons for existence of most crime including societally-arranged socio-economic suicides and probably other things.



Another nice article by Kancha Ilaiah.

You should read these two articles for more insight

Who’s Afraid Of Caste Census?
https://www.thingbits.in/products/raspberry-pi-zero-w-essentials-kit

Why Communism survived in Kerala but died in Bengal: Kancha Ilaiah Shepherd writes
https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...d-bengal-kancha-ilaiah-shepherd-writes-146537

 

[jamahir]

I'm interested in your classical computers, you have been working on.

By "classical computer" I meant regular binary computers ( current laptops, servers, cell phone etc ) as against quantum computers.

Most people work on a big idea but never care to do a proper market research and think about a practical business model. My advice is to do something you can realize fast and get experience about how your idea fares in the real market.

https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/fail-fast#:~:text=Fail fast is a philosophy,a concept known as pivoting.

1. I agree with "Fail fast" and "Pivoting" and the two terms I will use among the little development team I hope to arrange in some months but they are methods for testing out your software or hardware or medicine formula etc after you have decided on the base design / architecture. You are not rejecting the entire premise of the project but elements of it that have to be rejected or reworked. They are not the end but means to the end. To develop a microprocessor you will need to, after the initial design, prototype it on a FPGA board. And in my case since the OS is built specifically for my processor's design it will finally start to be written after the first processor prototype. And within the scope of this will be used Fail fast and Pivoting.

2. About market research, since I want my microprocessor+OS combine to be used initially in Indian scientific, space, bureaucratic etc sectors I assure you that there is not a single Indian company or government organization that has developed a locally design microprocessor or a local non-Linux operating system. Eleven years ago DRDO announced that it has set up a team to develop a "futuristic" operating system for primarily the needs of the Indian military and scientific establishment :

The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is working on creating a futuristic computing system, including India's own operating system, said V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister and DRDO Director-General.

Talking to journalists after inaugurating the DRDO Transit Facility here on Saturday, Dr. Saraswat said: “We do not have our own operating system. Today, various bodies, including banks and defence establishments, need security. Having our own operating system will help us prevent hacking of our systems.”

Two software engineering centres are being set up for this purpose in Bangalore and New Delhi. “To start with, we will have 25 scientists at each of these centres. We are in touch with institutes such as the Indian Institute of Science, Indian Institute of Technology Madras and the Centre for Development of Telematics, besides universities and industries. We will use available talent.” Citing security reasons, he refused to provide details of organisations involved in the project.

The new operating system would also have commercial use, he said and added: “With a home-grown system, the source code will be with us and it helps in securing our systems,” he said. Asked about the money involved for the project and the timeframe, Dr. Saraswat said it was fairly a costly affair, without elaborating on the timeframe.

After two years the development in this project was not even description of the OS' kernel / system calls but just that the team has increased to 150 and these new engineers and scientists have been sourced from various Indian research and education centers. From 2010 to 2021, eleven years, and no OS from DRDO. I think I can access following three niche markets at first - defense, scientific establishments and bureaucratic organizations. And then commercial within India.

3. I already have one experience in co-founding a company for my previous OS project some years ago. Please read this post of mine from yesterday :

Some years ago I had written a simple OS by learning x86 Assembly on a Windows computer ( running the Debug program ). I styled the OS on message-passing IPC mechanism for synchronous IPC and it had UNIX-style Signals mechanism for asynchronous IPC. It also had timers whose expiry would generate a Signal. There were five simple text commands. There was no time-slicing so for task-switching the message-passing would do the switch or the keyboard task would switch to because of its higher priority. The screen would also constantly display the status of the tasks and other things. This simple OS was written on Linux using the BCC ( Bruce's C Compiler ) tool chain and emulated on Linux in the Bochs PC emulator.

I did this in some months. I showed the result to a friend of mine who then told of this to a friend of his who told it to an acquaintance of his. This third person met me and saw the OS. We agreed that something big should be done about it. Two or three months later he brought a bunch of computer engineering students who had written a floppy disk boot loader module and we together adapted it to the OS. A few months later this person said he was ready to arrange an OS to start a small company to commercially develop the OS. So a few days later he and I traveled to a office furniture and workstation sales company and gave order for purchase of chairs, workstations and also for construction of an office cabin and a glass-walled conference room. And then purchased computers at cheap rates. A few days later the office was arranged on one side of a big hall on 4th floor of his house and this hall already had his cousin running a small corporate- advertisements pamphlet and booklet design company. And then we gathered a small group of software engineers and hardware engineers who were paid every month with small salaries. My funding co-founder also got visiting cards printed for each worker including me. I wasn't getting further ideas so the office continued for some months. In between my co-founder's father who had been part of one of India's major aircraft development organizations had spread word about this company and his former colleagues who were still working there and in related places came to see the OS and asked some questions. At that time I wasn't very clear in answering. They must have been disappointed. Unfortunately, misunderstandings arose after a while between we two co-founders and the company dissolved.

But I must tell you one more thing. I had gotten in contact with the assistant manager and manager of the specialized-talents acquisition team of one of India's biggest IT companies and they saw my OS and they asked me if I could teach how the OS was written / worked to a few manager-level group from their company and that to be done on the two-day weekend holiday at the timeline of my choosing. They offered my 1.25 lakhs for this training. I asked time to think about this but ultimately declined the offer saying that the payment was too less. 1.25 lakhs for a two-day training program wasn't bad and they would have acknowledged my name is any project they would build on that OS but somehow the money seemed less to me.

All in all, I have an initial market and will have to think of the full business model before approaching venture capitalists which I hope to do so in some months.

Can your classical computer compete with something cheap like this ?
https://www.thingbits.in/products/raspberry-pi-zero-w-essentials-kit

Well, my plan is to use the microprocessor and OS within a wearable computer. You point to Raspberry Pi and yes it is popular but that is just the base board. You will need to separately have a monitor screen, keyboard and mouse. The wearable computer I have been thinking of combines screen and user input. The challenge for me would be to develop and sell it cheap.

Who’s Afraid Of Caste Census?
https://www.thingbits.in/products/raspberry-pi-zero-w-essentials-kit

Please check the link

Why Communism survived in Kerala but died in Bengal: Kancha Ilaiah Shepherd writes
https://www.thenewsminute.com/artic...d-bengal-kancha-ilaiah-shepherd-writes-146537

Good article.

 

[Black Tornado]

Stop tagging me communist

Commies only speak, capitalists do it, if you want to discuss, come here.

@jamahir thanks for your Communist propaganda, care to explain this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1438420569196613632

 

[Musalman]

This is happening in Pakistan too. Father throwing his kids in canal. This is a human issue. I feel bad for that person and for all those who are in this situation.

 

[jamahir]

@jamahir thanks for your Communist propaganda, care to explain this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1438420569196613632

You should first tell Mahant Yogi ji to build hospitals in his state to prevent people, including children, dying of dengue there right now.

So PepsiCo didn't want to do wage hike so is going away to UP because the laborers there are not as organized as in Kerala ?

And that Christian owner of the Kitex company in Kerala is also going away to UP. You should check his beliefs. Perhaps he also believes in the Kerala Catholic Church false propaganda of Love Jihad and now Narco Jihad.

And this from Yogi takes the cake :

With this setup, the Yogi government is aiming at giving job opportunities to at least 30% women employees.

Below are some of Yogi's misogynist and suffocating views :

He believes women need male protection from birth to death and their ‘energy/power’ should be regulated or controlled, lest it become worthless and destructive.

He adds the shastras say that a woman is protected in her childhood by her father, by her husband in her youth and by her son in her old age — so that way a woman is not capable of being left free or independent.

So let us stop the pretensions about Yogi and his people being oh so concerned about women and their development.

And why are these companies going to UP of all places and not to say Delhi and Tamil Nadu ?

And why are you posting from a OpIndia-clone TFI ?

 

[Black Tornado]

You should first tell Mahant Yogi ji to build hospitals in his state to prevent people, including children, dying of dengue there right now.

Ask your commie lal salaam to control corona virus which is contrubuting 75% of total cases in India, instead of goal post shifting google what’s NIP.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

By "classical computer" I meant regular binary computers ( current laptops, servers, cell phone etc ) as against quantum computers.



1. I agree with "Fail fast" and "Pivoting" and the two terms I will use among the little development team I hope to arrange in some months but they are methods for testing out your software or hardware or medicine formula etc after you have decided on the base design / architecture. You are not rejecting the entire premise of the project but elements of it that have to be rejected or reworked. They are not the end but means to the end. To develop a microprocessor you will need to, after the initial design, prototype it on a FPGA board. And in my case since the OS is built specifically for my processor's design it will finally start to be written after the first processor prototype. And within the scope of this will be used Fail fast and Pivoting.

2. About market research, since I want my microprocessor+OS combine to be used initially in Indian scientific, space, bureaucratic etc sectors I assure you that there is not a single Indian company or government organization that has developed a locally design microprocessor or a local non-Linux operating system. Eleven years ago DRDO announced that it has set up a team to develop a "futuristic" operating system for primarily the needs of the Indian military and scientific establishment :

After two years the development in this project was not even description of the OS' kernel / system calls but just that the team has increased to 150 and these new engineers and scientists have been sourced from various Indian research and education centers. From 2010 to 2021, eleven years, and no OS from DRDO. I think I can access following three niche markets at first - defense, scientific establishments and bureaucratic organizations. And then commercial within India.

3. I already have one experience in co-founding a company for my previous OS project some years ago. Please read this post of mine from yesterday :



All in all, I have an initial market and will have to think of the full business model before approaching venture capitalists which I hope to do so in some months.



Well, my plan is to use the microprocessor and OS within a wearable computer. You point to Raspberry Pi and yes it is popular but that is just the base board. You will need to separately have a monitor screen, keyboard and mouse. The wearable computer I have been thinking of combines screen and user input. The challenge for me would be to develop and sell it cheap.



Please check the link



Good article.

I have a complaint about you folks. It is this.