India/Islam: Muslims lag behind then other minorities in India

[foxbat]

tamils are not a caste no ?

No.. ........

 

[Peacefull]

None, because caste system has been abolished under Indian constitution.

So the conclusion is caste system exists in india. post reported with mods for spreading disinformation!!!

 

[Peacefull]

None, because caste system has been abolished under Indian constitution.

So the conclusion is caste system exists in india. post reported with mods for spreading disinformation about india and Hinduism!!!

 

[Peacefull]

No idea.. Do let me know if you find out..

If there is no serious mechanism in place to accept the converts back to hinduism, this can mean only one thing "keep normal folks busy in religious war while the Elite plunder all the wealth"

No wonder with all the rich history and brains has, india is not a super power let alone a regional power not even after 70 plus years of independence.

Could any one tell what are the mineral resoures india has and who benefits from this relgious and caste war in india ??

 

[PAKBARBIE]

a recent, relevant and well-written blog entry written by an an Indian Hindu (i assume) on the plight of Muslims on India and some great insight into the issue. must read for those Indians who deny discrimination against Muslims exists in their society or make dumb excuses for it (like Muslims don't like to study or work hard)

E=mc^2: Segregation in India: Plight of Muslims

 

[Lonely Hermit]

So the conclusion is caste system exists in india. post reported with mods for spreading disinformation!!!

What he meant was discrimination on the basis of caste has been abolished.

But yes caste of a person still matters out here in India you can look at our matrimonials ads.

Only relevance that caste now has is that there is reservation up to 50% in govt job and govt educational institution in India something which is known as affirmative action.

and also it plays an important part in politics of states like UP.

 

[aristocrat]

Instead of creating a new thread...........
Status of the Implementation of Sachar Committee Recommendations for Social, Economic and Educational Development of Muslim Community

Backgrounder:



The Government took decisions on the recommendations of the Sachar Committee (Prime Minister's High Level Committee on Social, Economic and Educational status of the Muslim Community of India) pertaining to various Ministries/Departments. The status of implementation of the decisions taken by Government on the follow-up action on the recommendations of the Sachar Committee is as under:



1 Department of Financial Services :



(i) All public sector banks have been directed to open more branches in districts having a substantial minority population. In 2007-08, 523 branches were opened in such districts while in 2008-09, 537 new branches were opened. In 2009-10, 743 new branches and in 2010-11, 814 new branches were opened. During 2011-12, 619 branches have been opened up to 31st December 2011. A total of 3236 branches have been opened since 2007-08.

(ii) RBI revised its Master Circular on the 1st July, 2011 on priority sector lending (PSL) for improving credit facilities to minority communities. As on 31st December, 2011, Rs.1,54,789.90 crore, which is 14.83% of total PSL, were provided to minorities.

(iii) To promote micro-finance among women, 6,03,087 accounts have been opened for minority women with Rs. 6611.87 crore as micro-credit in 2011-12 upto September, 2011.

(iv) All public sector banks are organizing awareness campaigns in blocks/districts/towns with substantial minority population. In 2011-12, 1658 awareness campaigns were organized in such areas upto September, 2011.

(v) Lead banks have organized 618 entrepreneurial development programmes in blocks/districts/towns with substantial minority population upto September, 2011 and the number of beneficiaries is 9065.



2 Ministry of Human Resource Development:



A multi-pronged strategy to address the educational backwardness of the Muslim community, as brought out by the Sachar Committee, has been adopted, as given below:-



a) Under the Kasturba Gandhi Balika Vidyalaya (KGBV) scheme, criteria of educationally backward blocks has been revised with effect from 1st April 2008 to cover blocks with less than 30% rural female literacy and in urban areas with less than national average of female literacy. Under the scheme, 450 KGBVs have been operationalised in minority concentration districts, so far. 70 KGBVs have been operationalised for minority concentration districts against the target of 107 during the year 2011-12 upto December, 2011.

b) Universalization of access to quality education at secondary stage called Rashtriya Madhyamik Shiksha Abhiyan (RMSA) has been approved. The scheme envisages preference to minority concentration areas in opening of Government schools. State Governments have been advised to accord priority to setting up of new / upgraded schools in minority concentration areas while appraising proposals under this scheme. 158 New Secondary Schools have been approved in 2011-12 upto October, 2011.

c) One model college each would be set up in 374 educationally backward districts (EBDs) of the country. Of 374 EBDs, 67 are in identified minority concentration districts. During 2011-12, five model colleges have been sanctioned in MCDs, and funds of Rs. 2.67 crores have been released upto 30th Sept., 2011.

d) Under the Sub-mission on polytechnics, financial assistance is provided to the States/UTs for setting up of polytechnics in un-served and under-served districts. 57 districts out of 90 minority concentration districts are eligible for consideration under the scheme. So far, 46 minority concentration districts have been covered for setting up of polytechnics, and an amount of Rs.222.66 crore have been released upto 30th Sept., 2011.

e) Preference is given by the University Grants Commission for provision of girls' hostels in universities and colleges in the areas where there is concentration of minorities especially Muslims. The UGC has sanctioned 284 Women's hostels and released Rs.201.55 crore till 30th Sept., 2011 during 11th Plan in Minority Concentration Districts/area.

f) The Area Intensive & Madarsa Modernisation Programme has been revised and bifurcated into two schemes. A Scheme for Providing Quality Education in Madarsas (SPQEM) has been launched with an allocation of Rs. 325 crore for the Eleventh Five-year Plan. It contains attractive provisions for better teachers’ salary, increased assistance for books, teaching aids and computers, and introduction of vocational subjects, etc. An amount of Rs. 92.77 crore has been released upto 31st Dec., 2011 against budget provision of Rs. 150 crore. The other scheme, which provides financial assistance for Infrastructure Development of Private aided/unaided Minority Institutes (IDMI), has been lauched with an allocation of Rs. 125 crore for the Eleventh Five-year Plan. During 2011-12, an amount of Rs. 21.88 crore has been released against budget outlay of Rs. 50.00 crore upto 31st Dec., 2011.

g) For subsequent access to higher education, the Certificates issued by the State Madarsa Boards, whose Certificates and qualifications have been granted equivalence by the corresponding State Boards, would be considered equivalent by the Central Board of Secondary Education (CBSE), Council of Board of School Education in India (COBSE) or/and by any other school examination board.

h) Academies for professional development of Urdu medium teachers have been set up at three Central Universities namely, Aligarh Muslim University, Jamia Milia Islamia University, New Delhi and Maulana Azad National Urdu University, Hyderabad. During 2011-12, 4718 Urdu Teachers have been trained under Refresher Courses/Workshops.



i) Under the revised scheme, financial assistance is given for appointment of Urdu teachers in a Government school in any locality where more than 25% of the population is from Urdu speaking community. The financial assistance would be based on the prevailing salary structure of Urdu teachers employed with schools of the State Government. Honorarium is also admissible to part-time Urdu teachers.



j) The States/UTs have been advised to undertake community based mobilization campaigns in areas having a substantial population of Muslims. Saakshar Bharat is being implemented in 372 districts out of 410 eligible districts where adult female literacy is 50% or below as per 2001 Census. Out of 88 Muslim dominated districts, 61 districts have been covered under Saakshar Bharat.

k) Jan Shikshan Sansthans (JSSs) are envisaged in the revised schemes. At present, JSSs are imparting vocational training in 33 out of the 88 Muslim dominated districts in the country.



l) The mid-day meal scheme has been extended to all areas in the country from the year 2008-09 and also covers upper primary schools. Blocks with a concentration of Muslim population are being covered under this scheme.



m) All State Governments/UT administrations have been advised to use existing school buildings and community buildings as study centres for school children.



n) National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) has prepared text books for all classes in the light of the National Curriculum Framework-2005 (NCF). 14 States have revised their curriculums as per the NCF 2005 while 9 States are in the process of doing so. Ten States/UTs use textbooks of neighbouring States or NCERT textbooks.

o) Thirty five universities have started centers for studying social exclusion and inclusive policy for minorities and scheduled castes and scheduled tribes. Besides, 1280 Centres of Equal Opportunity (CEOs) have been established in 51 universities during 2009-10 and 1345 and 1367 such centres are proposed to be established during 2010-11 and 2011-12 respectively.



3 Ministry of Minority Affairs :



(a) An expert group, constituted to study and recommend the structure and functions of an Equal Opportunity Commission (EOC), submitted its report on 13th March, 2008. The concept of diversity index has been subsumed in the EOC. The draft Bill for EOC is under consultation with other Ministries/Departments concerned.

(b) The Waqf (Amendment) Bill, 2010 as passed by the Lok Sabha was referred to the Select Committee of the Rajya Sabha on 31st August, 2010. The Select Committee held its 22nd Meeting on 12.12.2011. The Report of the Select Committee of the Rajya Sabha on the Waqf (Amendment) Bill, 2010 and the evidence tendered before the Select Committee were placed on the Table of the Rajya Sabha on 16th December, 2011.

(c) The Government has accorded 'in-principle' approval for restructuring of National Minorities Development and Finance Corporation (NMDFC). A consultancy firm has been appointed to work out the details for restructuring of NMDFC. The firm had submitted its draft reports which were examined in the Ministry. The Report and the views of the Consultancy Monitoring Committee are under consideration.

(d) An Inter-ministerial Task Force constituted to devise an appropriate strategy and action plan for developing 338 identified towns having substantial minority population, has submitted its report on 8th November, 2007. The concerned Ministries/Departments have been advised to give priority in the implementation of their schemes in these 338 towns.

(e) Three scholarship schemes for minority communities namely, pre-matric scholarship from class –I to X, post-matric scholarship from class XI to PhD and merit-cum-means scholarship for technical and professional courses at under-graduate and post-graduate levels have been launched. Under these schemes, Rs. 649.21 crore have been sanctioned for award of scholarships to 33.90 lakh students belonging to minority communities in 2011-12 upto 31st December, 2011. Further, a fellowship scheme called Maulana Azad National Fellowship Scheme for M.Phil and Ph.D scholars has been under implementation. 756 fellowships and 3778 renewals have been sanctioned by University Grants Commission (UGC) and financial assistance for Rs. 51.98 crore has been released up to 31st December, 2011.

(f) The corpus of Maulana Azad Education Foundation (MAEF), which stood at Rs. 100 crore, was doubled to Rs. 200 crore in December, 2006. The corpus was, however, increased during 11th Plan period to Rs. 700 crore. Under the scheme of MAEF, since 2007-08, 419 NGOs have been given grants-in-aid for infrastructure development of educational institutions and 48471 scholarships were awarded to meritorious girls in classes-XI and XII.

(g) A revised Coaching and Allied scheme was launched in 2006-07. Against the target of 6000 candidates for 2011-12, financial assistance has been given to 90 students/candidates belonging to minority communities. Funds to the tune of Rs.4.00 crore have been released against the budget provision of Rs. 16 crore, up to 31st December, 2011.

(h) A Multi- sectoral Development Programme (MsDP) was launched in 90 identified minority concentration districts in 2008-09. Plans of 90 minority concentration districts (fully in 68 and partly in 22 districts) in Haryana, Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal, Assam, Manipur, Bihar, Meghalaya, Jharkhand, Andaman & Nicobar Islands, Orissa, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Kerala, Uttrakhand, Mizoram, Jammu & Kashmir, Delhi, Madhya Pradesh, Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh have been approved and Rs.2588.34 crore released to State Governments and Union Territory Administrations up to 31st December, 2011 since launching of the programme.

4 Ministry of Statistics and Programme Implementation:

A National Data Bank, to compile data on the various socio-economic and basic amenities parameters for socio-religious communities, has been set up in the Ministry of Statistics and Programme Implementation.



5 Planning Commission:



(a) An autonomous Assessment & Monitoring Authority (AMA), to analyse data collected for taking appropriate and corrective policy decisions, was set up in the Planning Commission. Since the term of the AMA ended on 15th January, 2011, the Planning Commission has reconstituted the AMA and the newly reconstituted AMA has conducted few meetings.

(b) A comprehensive institutional structure for fostering skill development has been set up in Planning Commission to address the skill development needs of the country including minorities. It includes National Council on Skill Development, National Skill Development Coordination Board and a National Skill Development Corporation.



6 Department of Personnel and Training:



(a) Department of Personnel & Training has developed training modules for sensitization of government officials. These modules have been sent to the Central/ State Training Institutes for training.

(b) State Governments and Union Territory Administrations have been advised by Department of Personnel & Training for posting of Muslim police personnel in Thanas and Muslim health personnel and teachers in Muslim concentration areas. Guidelines have also been issued by Ministry of Home Affairs, Ministry of Human Resource Development and Ministry of Health & Family Welfare advising States/UTs for similar action.



7 Ministry of Home Affairs:



(a) A High Level Committee, set up to review the Delimitation Act, has considered the concerns expressed in the Sachar Committee report regarding anomalies with respect to reserved constituencies under the delimitation schemes and submitted its report.

(b) A Working Group in the National Advisory Council (NAC) drafted a Bill titled “Prevention of Communal and Targeted Violence (Access to Justice & Reparations) Bill, 2011”. The NAC sent the Bill to Ministry of Home Affairs on 25.07.2011. The draft Bill is under examination in Ministry of Home Affairs.



8 Ministry of Urban Development and Ministry of Housing & Urban Poverty Alleviation:



For facilitating the flow of funds under the Jawarharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JNNURM), Urban Infrastructure Development Scheme for Small and Medium Towns (UIDSSMT), Integrated Housing & Slum Development Programme (IHSDP) and Basic Services for Urban Poor (BSUP) to towns and cities, having a substantial concentration of minority population, necessary steps have been taken to ensure that Detailed Project Reports (DPRs) for such towns and cities include adequate provisions for minorities.



(a) Under UIDSSMT, Rs. 2672.34 crore has been sanctioned for 88 towns having a substantial minority population.



(b) Under IHSDP, projects costing Rs. 1897.69 crore are for 101 towns having a substantial minority population.

(c) Under BSUP, Rs.7086.47 crore has been sanctioned for 17 towns.

(d) Governments of Uttar Pradesh, Karnataka, Punjab, Chhatisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan, Lakshadweep, Puducherry and Kerala have given exemption to Waqf Board properties from Rent Control Act, while Arunachal Pradesh and Nagaland have informed that no Waqf property exists in these States.



9 Ministry of Labour and Employment:



An Act has been passed by the Parliament for providing social security to workers in the un-organized sector, which, inter- alia, includes home based workers.



10 Ministry of Culture:



Meetings of circles of Archaeological Survey of India have been held with State Waqf Boards to review the list of waqf properties which are under the Archaeological Survey of India.



11 Ministry of Health and Family Welfare :



Dissemination of information regarding health and family welfare schemes is being undertaken in regional languages in minority concentration areas.



12 Ministry of Panchayati Raj:



State Governments have been advised by Ministry of Panchayati Raj and Ministry of Urban Development to improve representation of minorities in local bodies.

As per information furnished by Ministry of Panchayati Raj, States/UTs of Uttarakhand, Kerala, West Bengal and Lakshadweep have mentioned that provisions for ensuring representation of minorities in District and Panchayat level exist. The State Governments of Himachal Pradesh and Orissa have informed that the matter is under consideration.

Ministry of Urban Development has informed that State Governments of Kerala, West Bengal and Haryana have implemented the guidelines.





13 Ministry of Information & Broadcasting :



The Ministry of Information & Broadcasting has been regularly releasing features of various themes associated with minority welfare covering issues such as scholarship schemes, initiatives taken in pursuance of the Sachar Committee Report.

Press Information Bureau English Releases

 

[EjazR]

but about Muslims, they were always categorized as forward caste in India as they were . And also Muslims backwards like Ahmadiya Muslims etc. already fall within reservation of Hindu backward caste?

Not sure where you got the idea that ahmedis are backward.

The faction basically came about from the landed muslim elite of Punjab near a place called Qadian. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed claimed at the time of British India. Later, they played a major supporting role in the Pakistan movement and most of them mgirated to Pakistan after the partition. Sir Zafrullah Khan who became the first Foreign Minister of Pakistan was among the prominent Ahmedis and because of their education and landed elite status had an important position in the Pakistani bureaucracy.

The actual OBC officially listed by the govt. is here and it has no reference to Ahmedis.
Press Information Bureau English Releases


For further info on OBC muslims read this
A fair deal for Muslims

 

[SpArK]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/171759-indian-muslims-inc-their-market-global-business-impact.html#post2800855

 

[faizahmad]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/171759-indian-muslims-inc-their-market-global-business-impact.html#post2800855

Thank Your Brother ---

 

[EjazR]

Some might argue that Indian Muslims drop out of school early, & start working on family businesses or other things. Here is an interesting fact: while Indian Muslims have lower educational levels than other religious groups in India, they have higher education levels than Pakistani Muslims. But overall, their condition is even worse than that of Dalits in India, forget Pakistani Muslims. Educational levels doesn't always translate into good socioeconomic conditions for people.

Bilal, what do you mean by "conditions", is it per capita income? life expectancy? literacy? work participation rate? female work participation rate? Infant mortality rate?
Compare all of these and you will come up with interesting conclusions. And no need to bring the average Pakistani Muslim, because that would be embarrassing as these would be even lower when you compare them. And this is DESPITE Pakistani Muslims being in the majority.

...I would argue that the Madrassah education in India is one of the reasons why Indian Muslims lag behind, & institutions such as Dar Uloom Deoband & Jamaat-e-Islami Hind are detrimental to not only the future of Indian Muslims, but also of India.

Not sure where you got that from. Have you ACTUALLY read the Sachar report instead of depending on media reports. The report is available for free you know. Only 3-4% of Muslims students actually attend madrassas first of all. Then there are govt. aided madrassas that teach both regular school subjects along with religious classes like convent schools.Madrassas in India are quite different from Pakistan. Even Hindu students attend them in India and there is no restrictions on the basis of faith for them to attend
Here is a report from UP itself
Daily Times - Hindus prefer madrassas to govt schools in UP
and from Bihar
Why many Hindu students study in Bihar's madrasas - Rediff.com India News

Just do a search on this an you will find plenty of news reports. The fact is that Muslims prefer sending their kids to private schools, if that is not possible, then govt. schools and then as a last case they will send them to madrassas. Atleast they will learn basic literacy there. Ofcourse there are other madrassas that are govt. aided which get funding and also provide good schooling too. So there are different perspectives here.

JI-Hind and Deoband in India don't preach political Islamic ideology or Khilafat system unlike in Pakistan. They do also run a number of schools and colleges including for girls and do not indulge in terrorist activities in the garb of social welfare unlike some other groups. So don't mix up the Pakistani versions of this organizations that are quite different from their Indian counterparts. For example, JI-Hind has even removed books and ideologies of Maududi from their literature. Yes we have our social conservatives who need to grow up, but the average Indian Muslim has the freedom to either follow or NOT follow what they have to say. No one can "enforce" fatwas for example.

Overall, there are a myriad of reasons why Indian Muslims lag behind, ranging from India's less-than-perfect social system, to the Muslim institutions, & the Muslim people themselves.

Agreed, but the reasons you have given are not the major ones. Nor do you seem to have the proper picture of what exactly the Sachar report said. I suggest you read the report here
Sachar Committee Report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[The HBS Guy]

Bilal, what do you mean by "conditions", is it per capita income? life expectancy? literacy? work participation rate? female work participation rate? Infant mortality rate?
Compare all of these and you will come up with interesting conclusions. And no need to bring the average Pakistani Muslim, because that would be embarrassing as these would be even lower when you compare them. And this is DESPITE Pakistani Muslims being in the majority.



Not sure where you got that from. Have you ACTUALLY read the Sachar report instead of depending on media reports. The report is available for free you know. Only 3-4% of Muslims students actually attend madrassas first of all. Then there are govt. aided madrassas that teach both regular school subjects along with religious classes like convent schools.Madrassas in India are quite different from Pakistan. Even Hindu students attend them in India and there is no restrictions on the basis of faith for them to attend
Here is a report from UP itself
Daily Times - Hindus prefer madrassas to govt schools in UP
and from Bihar
Why many Hindu students study in Bihar's madrasas - Rediff.com India News

Just do a search on this an you will find plenty of news reports. The fact is that Muslims prefer sending their kids to private schools, if that is not possible, then govt. schools and then as a last case they will send them to madrassas. Atleast they will learn basic literacy there. Ofcourse there are other madrassas that are govt. aided which get funding and also provide good schooling too. So there are different perspectives here.

JI-Hind and Deoband in India don't preach political Islamic ideology or Khilafat system unlike in Pakistan. They do also run a number of schools and colleges including for girls and do not indulge in terrorist activities in the garb of social welfare unlike some other groups. So don't mix up the Pakistani versions of this organizations that are quite different from their Indian counterparts. For example, JI-Hind has even removed books and ideologies of Maududi from their literature. Yes we have our social conservatives who need to grow up, but the average Indian Muslim has the freedom to either follow or NOT follow what they have to say. No one can "enforce" fatwas for example.



Agreed, but the reasons you have given are not the major ones. Nor do you seem to have the proper picture of what exactly the Sachar report said. I suggest you read the report here
Sachar Committee Report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not sure how they even define that.

Is a Pakistani Muslim one of those 50% in Pakistan who have enough access to food or one of those who don't?

50% Pakistanis remain food insecure: WFP – The Express Tribune

 

[Hello_10]

Sir, Muslims and other minorities in 'Hindu majority India' grew with much faster rate than Hindus in India, reducing population ratio of Hindus from 88% to 78% since freedom, since 1947, then don’t you find liberal Hindutva behind it?

Why don’t you compare "Hindu majority India" with "Islamic Pakistan" where population of minorities like Hindu/ Sikhs are now almost gone making Pakistan now a country of over 97.5% Muslims and over 1.5% Christian and rest Hindu/ Sikhs ? But the things didn’t stop here, we now see Shia and Ahmadi minorities of Muslims on the gun point of Sunni majority who all fall within Muslims itself? isn't Hindutva little better than this current situation of Islamic Pakistan

while at the same time Muhajir Muslims find themselves to be cheated by partition of India in 1947? Mohajir leaders like Altaf Hussein come to India and cry of partition, giving a sense that they could be in a much better position while being with "Hindu majority India" than what they faced in "Islamic Pakistan"? Don’t you think its the attraction of 'Hindutva' of "Hindu Majority India" which has made Pakistan’s Muhajir Muslims believe that they did a mistake when they moved to 'Islamic Pakistan'?

its no doubt that its Hinduism which has helped India so liberal which is not expected in any other country. If you see the western countries, then name Khan has the first impression of a 'Terror Suspect' while in many western countries like France, they dont want either Burka on Muslim women, nor even they want Sikhs to have Turban also, like in France, a christian background country. if India may become one of these Muslim and Christian countries then ............. but its good that we have Hinduism in India who has helped it have 'true democracy', similar to how Hindus living in US/Britain type countries are the richest there, eanring almost twice to local whites and helped them have high techs and thus high progress this way. with the least social offence also, as compare to other countries.....................

 

[Hello_10]

First, im supporter of giving reservation to Muslims as now we find Muslims not that much competitive enough to face competition of engineering/ medical/ CA etc examinations, hardly 2% to 3% from this community qualify in these exams under general quota while their population ratio is around now 18% in India. And also, I support giving reservations to Muslims within 50% quota for reservation, as, we at least need to have 50% seats available for general quota.
(Also for those who are unaware of reservation system of India, they would know that under general quota, all the candidates are selected regardless from which caste/ religion they belong to, but then under rest of 50% seats of reservation quota, students of backward caste are given admission/ jobs.)

from here, there is question, why do Muslims need reservation? 50% reservation for hindu backward is because of their backward background they had for so long than forward caste. but about Muslims, they were always categorized as forward caste in India as they were . And also Muslims backwards like Ahmadiya Muslims etc. already fall within reservation of Hindu backward caste? then why do we need any reservation on the basis of religion, while reservation in India is provided on the basis of backwardness only? And also, whats the reason that Sikhs and Christians are among the highest income religious people, above than Hindus in India, while Muslims are so backward? even if general quota of engineering/ medical/ MBA are always seen to be dominated by Hindu forward caste, Sikhs and Christians perform pretty good on the side of business activities and are among the higher income group than Hindus in India. so why Muslims aren’t that competent in India while they were also among the richest in India at the time of freedom, in 1947? Population ratio of Muslims have increased from 8% to 18% since 1947 but why couldn’t they improve their education level/ competiveness with same rate?

Why do we find the second richest muslim of the world an Indian, Mr Azim Premji, second after Saudi King, and have seen Muslim president/ CMs in India but overall performance of Muslims is so low in India?

not only Indian Muslims but have a look on the Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims living in Britain/Canada type countries, they are the most poor people there, having the lowest income and highest unemployed. with that, we always read that whenever there is a terror link found, it may be linked with someone from Pakistan also, with among the highest crime rate by the Pakistan's origin in the Britain type countries..... Its no doubt that partition of India in 1947 almost destroyed the Pakistan and Bangladesh part of ancient India. and the worse we see about the West Pakistan which was the best part of India before 1947 and its now a threat to whole world right now.........

 

[Hello_10]

This is funny that even Lucknow, capital of UP, is known as city of Nawabs but now we find Muslims among the poor. But why, its they who have to find out as now per capita income of Sikhs is around 2 times to Hindus in India, then is there any reason why? Those who tried to perform good other than telling 'Nawabi stories' like Muslims, are now middle class like Sikhs / Hindus and live in new and better colonies of Lucknow, while old Lucknow of Muslim majority is now very poor.

also Sir, first you would check the datas and you will find population ratio of Hindus have reduced from 88% at the time of freedom in 1947 to around 78% right now. and here, is there any reason why those families who have 2-3 kids would grow, regardless any religion, but families made of 6 to 8 kids won’t grow with same rate? Simply you can’t give enough time to educate and provide enough resources to your kids if you have over 5-6 kids? Even if Christians faced the highest rate of population growth since 1947, more than Muslims in India, they always had good support from the Western nations who give heavy fund for conversion and then they support the converted Christian families also. But what about Muslims, why cant they learn from Hindus who generally have 2-3 kids and try to give them good education?

India is ruled by Hindu Backward Cast who have around 85% number in total Indian Hindus, who vote and chose the best people to rule India. and it will be only Backward Cast who will lose if they will share their reserved seats and other facilities with others....... but I heard that now Muslims have got reservation so we now have few Muslim number in IITs also...