India is unable to fight a two front war with Pakistan and China

[OrionHunter]

Don't pretend like a saint, or 1962 tragedy won't happen.

Or the thrashing the PLA got from the IA in 1967 at Nathula! Why do you fellows conveniently forget this disaster of yours?

 

[Donatello]

Nope .AQ fighters also indulged in Kashmir before WoT.But their main focus was west.
About present threat.AQ is almost overshadowed by ISIS.They need some relevance.



So you can maintain your F16 without US support during a war with India.?

Yes. First, there is no assumption that USA will block spares because of war with India. They would love to see their F-16s go up against Russian flankers and fulcrums.
Secondly, there are enough sources to get spares from, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt etc. That's how they were running for a decade in the 1990s.

India really isn't that important you know.

 

[Somras]

This was obvious. Fighting a two front war would need massive logistics and self-reliance on weapons production including having cutting edge jets, ships and tanks ready to be produced en masse at a moment's notice. Even US couldn't sustain a twin-conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither can China nor can India.

Today's conflicts will be short, swift and tech oriented. Gone are the days of long war that lasted months.

exactly it iwll be swift and short and so your thoey about industrial capacity dosent hold

just tell if 2 fornt war lasts 15 days then in those 15 days tell even with massive industrial capacity

how many usbs. ships, fighters, helicopters, trucks, bullets bombs, missiles can you build ?

it is about ready stocked materials not massice industrial capacity

 

[SrNair]

Yes. First, there is no assumption that USA will block spares because of war with India. They would love to see their F-16s go up against Russian flankers and fulcrums.
Secondly, there are enough sources to get spares from, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt etc. That's how they were running for a decade in the 1990s.

India really isn't that important you know.

Ha Ha some developed or so called former empires is now complaining because our Foreign Minister dont interested about their nation during her briefing .In fact she dont intent for it.And their diplomat even conceded it was an 'ouch' moment for them.
And I am not talking about a scenario of only Indo-Pak Skirmish.I am talking about a possible fishing in troubled waters by our western neighbour when there is an issue between India and China.

Of course US wont allowed their product for helping China .F 16 is US fighter .
But situation will be different if their is only Indo-Pak issue.
US sold 10billion$ products in India in last few years alone.
Antogonising India would be a last thing they needed under current circumstances.

 

[Somras]

China will keep India checked, Pakistan doesn't need to be worried.

The stronger PLA is, the safer Pakistan is. India is trying best to deal with China, they can't spare more time and source to face Pakistan when China pressurize along the border. As long as India behave properly in the sub-continent, we will not get involved. The stupdiest thing for India is to provoke China along the border, they had forgetten how they lose their pants in 1962.
India can't afford two fronts war with China and Pakistan.

instead of making pakistan dependent pn china ofr safety why not make pakistan stronger ?

why not say china will make pakistan stronger to the level where it can face india on its own onsted of saying The stronger PLA is, the safer Pakistan is

 

[帅的一匹]

instead of making pakistan dependent pn china ofr safety why not make pakistan stronger ?

why not say china will make pakistan stronger to the level where it can face india on its own onsted of saying The stronger PLA is, the safer Pakistan is

to make Pakistan on par with India in military capability is nearly impossible cause you are much bigger in size, all we can help is to Support Pakistan building minimum detterance ability against India.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

to make Pakistan on par with India in military capability is nearly impossible cause you are much bigger in size, all we can help is to Support Pakistan building minimum detterance ability against India.

Like you did with NK?

Don't forget time have changed now, remember Vietnam armed with Nuclear missiles and ASH missiles to wipe of All Chinese Surface Ships in 15 mins flat?

Thats the reason the help u did by providing Nuclear weapon design to PAK during 90's and missile from NK and China previously, that mistake you will not do now.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

On the lighter side, Chinese support for Pakistan in 1965 and Mao's humiliation -

Chinese support for Pakistan in 1971 war

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=...7a0fee1d989b878b01750&a=bi&pagenumber=1&w=800

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

We can beat India alone, even the Indian Army itself already said "India cannot possibly match China, and the gap is growing larger every day".

We have the high ground on the Tibetan plateau, possibly the best defensive position imaginable.

And New Delhi is only 300 km from the border, we won't even need to leave our own side of the border to hit the Indian capital with conventional artillery, our rocket artillery for example has a range from 350-400 km. And we have the largest manufacturing base on Earth, and more currency reserves than the rest of the world combined, we can build infinite numbers of cheap rockets as long as we need to.

We can just sit on top of the Tibetan plateau and fire on New Delhi, and India has no chance of breaking through against a defending and vastly superior armed forces and vastly superior infrastructure and defence production capabilities.

The only question is whether or not Pakistan will take up our offer this time, to come in after we had already defeated India. Ayub Khan refused, and preferred to side with India back in the 1960's. But times have changed, I do not think they will give up such an opportunity, especially since we will be the ones doing the heavy work.

Anyway, Modi the mass murderer seems to be the perfect vehicle to see another Forward Policy, with his "new assertive posture" on both the borders.

 

[rockstar08]

Nope .AQ fighters also indulged in Kashmir before WoT.But their main focus was west.
About present threat.AQ is almost overshadowed by ISIS.They need some relevance.



So you can maintain your F16 without US support during a war with India.?

stop living in a delusion .. AQ has nothing to do with Kashmir , not much peoples even know AQ post 9/11

 

[SrNair]

stop living in a delusion .. AQ has nothing to do with Kashmir , not much peoples even know AQ post 9/11

Except ISIS and few others moajority groups in the worldwas fighted in Kashmir .It is not a delusions.But that was not extensive

 

[$elf]

pakistan is nothing in front of us.

 

[rockstar08]

Except ISIS and few others moajority groups in the worldwas fighted in Kashmir .It is not a delusions.But that was not extensive

still unable to quote any source ...

 

[SrNair]

We can beat India alone, even the Indian Army itself already said "India cannot possibly match China, and the gap is growing larger every day".

We have the high ground on the Tibetan plateau, possibly the best defensive position imaginable.

And New Delhi is only 300 km from the border, we won't even need to leave our own side of the border to hit the Indian capital with conventional artillery, our rocket artillery for example has a range from 350-400 km. And we have the largest manufacturing base on Earth, and more currency reserves than the rest of the world combined, we can build infinite numbers of cheap rockets as long as we need to.

We can just sit on top of the Tibetan plateau and fire on New Delhi, and India has no chance of breaking through against a defending and vastly superior armed forces and vastly superior infrastructure and defence production capabilities.

The only question is whether or not Pakistan will take up our offer this time, to come in after we had already defeated India. Ayub Khan refused, and preferred to side with India back in the 1960's. But times have changed, I do not think they will give up such an opportunity, especially since we will be the ones doing the heavy work.

Anyway, Modi the mass murderer seems to be the perfect vehicle to see another Forward Policy, with his "new assertive posture" on both the borders.

Haha TTA not much thinking inthere.
This is not 1962 ,this 2014.You can talk easily about targeting our national capital.But consequences after that would be much graver than you or China cant anticipate.
Chinese already check mated when our new govt played with their diplomatic clout.
Your artillery would remain tibet.You cant defeat the terrain of Himalayas and only thing would applicable their is boots and airpower.

China cant defeat India that easy talks can spit against small SCS nations .But that tricks and numbers cant spent it here in India .
Your leaders know that.Your entire industries lifeline is flow
through Malacca Strait. Misadventure will surely payed off at any way.That is why CCP is much careful when dealing with India.

still unable to quote any source ...

I had read it in internet.I will quote that source.Sure.
Just an example may be right or wrong.
What about Ilyas Kashmiri?He was in favour for AQ.

 

[rockstar08]

Haha TTA not much thinking inthere.
This is not 1962 ,this 2014.You can talk easily about targeting our national capital.But consequences after that would be much graver than you or China cant anticipate.
Chinese already check mated when our new govt played with their diplomatic clout.
Your artillery would remain tibet.You cant defeat the terrain of Himalayas and only thing would applicable their is boots and airpower.

China cant defeat India that easy talks can spit against small SCS nations .But that tricks and numbers cant spent it here in India .
Your leaders know that.Your entire industries lifeline is flow
through Malacca Strait. Misadventure will surely payed off at any way.That is why CCP is much careful when dealing with India.



I had read it in internet.I will quote that source.Sure.
Just an example may be right or wrong.
What about Ilyas Kashmiri?He was in favour for AQ.

having some AQ supporters is different than AQ is operationally active in Kashmir ,
two different things