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India is unable to fight a two front war with Pakistan and China

Nope, the Indian Army itself said the opposite:

India can't match China's military force - Indian Navy Chief | IBN Live

The Indian Army said "India cannot match China by any conventional or non-conventional means, and the gap is growing larger every day".

Now don't tell me you guys know better than the Indian Armed forces.

And what do you know about Indian Armed Forces?
I know and heard about it a lot more than thought.Because our relatives are worked in Armed Forces.Both as officers and other posts.
Their aim is modernizing their forces withtop notch equipments.
 
Nope, the Indian Army itself said the opposite:

India can't match China's military force - Indian Navy Chief | IBN Live

The Indian Army said "India cannot match China by any conventional or non-conventional means, and the gap is growing larger every day".

Now don't tell me you guys know better than the Indian Armed forces.

you have been in this website for years now and have no clue how the indian military works do you? in a democracy, the military uses the media for "scare tactics" to extract money from the politicians.

you really dint imagine the chinese navy to do well against an experienced navy with one of the best kill ratios on the planet did you? :lol:
 
you have been in this website for years now and have no clue how the indian military works do you? in a democracy, the military uses the media for "scare tactics" to extract money from the politicians.

you really dint imagine the chinese navy to do well against a navy that has one of the best kill ratios on the planet did you? :lol:

Do you think you know better than your own Army? :rofl:

We don't even need to leave our borders to fight you, we can sit happily on the high ground of the Tibetan plateau and rain down rocket artillery (with a range of 350-400 km) at will on your capital city New Delhi, which is only 300 km from the border.

And our infrastructure on the border is far superior, we can achieve force concentrations multiple times yours at any point along the LAC, with overwhelming numbers and weapons platforms that India cannot possibly hope to match.

We can finish it without Pakistan, but no doubt they will take our offer this time, to come in after the fighting is over.
 
Do you think you know better than your own Army? :rofl:

We don't even need to leave our borders to fight you, we can sit happily on the high ground of the Tibetan plateau and rain down rocket artillery (with a range of 350-400 km) at will on your capital city New Delhi, which is only 300 km from the border.

And our infrastructure on the border is far superior, we can achieve force concentrations multiple times yours at any point along the LAC, with overwhelming numbers and weapons platforms that India cannot possibly hope to match.

We can finish it without Pakistan, but no doubt they will take our offer this time, to come in after the fighting is over.

We know and they know it, it is only a matter of time.
 
Was racism really that bad back then or is it exaggerated? Also what's your take on Affirmative action, black culture, ethnic poverty and crime rate?
It was that bad. Racism has always been the strychnine poison in the American well. It is still not completely leached out of our system but we have made tremendous progress. It was fundamental to the largest war we ever fought in our history and that was a hundred years before I was born and yet, when I was born, blacks were harshly segregated. Their most basic human rights and dignity violated. Their right to vote suppressed. I have mixed feelings about Affirmative Action although while I was in the military, they had their own version and it made us a much better fighting force because of it. These days, being a minority is a plus on a job application because Affirmative Action or not, virtually all companies are always promoting diversity in their work force. As to poverty, that is always the dilemma of the the first generations to come here and although almost all black families have been here for centuries, their problems regarding poverty and crime come from the collapse of black family structure. Whites have the same problem since the 1950's when divorce became easy, women having kids out of wedlock became common, and ideas about traditional family structure became challenged.

Finally, do you think guns should be regulated?
Guns are regulated in America, believe it or not :lol: but gun ownership and bearing them, is a constitutional right that is held dear by the American people, including me. I am a conservative Republican and support the defence of those rights under our 2nd Amendment. America, because it cherishes individual freedom to the point of a bit of constant anarchy, will always have more violence than most other western democracies. We are the third largest country in the world; only China & India have more people, and we are tremendously diverse; racially, ethnically, culturally, religiously. Higher crime than in other developed countries is always going to be a fact of life in America, particularly in our cities. It's worth noting though that our violent crime rate has been falling steadily for decades now. The homicide rate was almost 3x worse when I graduated high school, than it is today and gun laws since then, have been getting more lax, not stricter.
 
Do you think you know better than your own Army? :rofl:

We don't even need to leave our borders to fight you, we can sit happily on the high ground of the Tibetan plateau and rain down rocket artillery (with a range of 350-400 km) at will on your capital city New Delhi, which is only 300 km from the border.

And our infrastructure on the border is far superior, we can achieve force concentrations multiple times yours at any point along the LAC, with overwhelming numbers and weapons platforms that India cannot possibly hope to match.

We can finish it without Pakistan, but no doubt they will take our offer this time, to come in after the fighting is over.
:rofl: somebody has munched on the red brownies

kid. like every other chinese trollboy fan, you have no concept of how to wage a war and gets carried away by the 62 war when the indian border gaurds had no ammo and got outnumbered by "red ants" (their words) by at least 10:1. you have failed to realize that the indian side of the territory is mountainous and therefore hard to build roads. however like every other fanboy, you have failed to account for the fact that this terrain offers the best defensive position. (which was why the indian troops with ammo caused disproportionate casualities to the chinese Nobody believed we had killed so many Chinese at Rezang La !!
morover, you have forgotten about the 90,000 troops sanctioned for the china border
and you have forgotten about india's air lift and air drop abilities

...remember, we are talking about one military that was compared to the nazi war machine and another whose best contribution to modern warfare is the human wave tactic. :lol:

the only way china can annex AP is to use their superior albeit entire military industrial complex in a prolonged all out war, but that will have another set of negative consequences.
We don't even need to leave our borders to fight you, we can sit happily on the high ground of the Tibetan plateau and rain down rocket artillery (with a range of 350-400 km) at will on your capital city New Delhi, which is only 300 km from the border.

:hitwall:
you better stick to your economy threads
do you know what i would do in a discussion that i know nothing about about? i would shut the f&*% up
 
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It was that bad. Racism has always been the strychnine poison in the American well. It is still not completely leached out of our system but we have made tremendous progress. It was fundamental to the largest war we ever fought in our history and that was a hundred years before I was born and yet, when I was born, blacks were harshly segregated. Their most basic human rights and dignity violated. Their right to vote suppressed. I have mixed feelings about Affirmative Action although while I was in the military, they had their own version and it made us a much better fighting force because of it. These days, being a minority is a plus on a job application because Affirmative Action or not, virtually all companies are always promoting diversity in their work force. As to poverty, that is always the dilemma of the the first generations to come here and although almost all black families have been here for centuries, their problems regarding poverty and crime come from the collapse of black family structure. Whites have the same problem since the 1950's when divorce became easy, women having kids out of wedlock became common, and ideas about traditional family structure became challenged.

Wow that's terrible to here. Being in my 20s and someone from a place with very little black people, the mindset of the youth in Canada (or atleast Vancouver) is that black people are exaggerating the past and playing the race card. To hear it from someone who grew up during that time is enlightening, and sheds light on our ignorance. I can't imagine the cultural shock of feeling unwelcome in the only home you've ever known.

Guns are regulated in America, believe it or not :lol: but gun ownership and bearing them, is a constitutional right that is held dear by the American people, including me. I am a conservative Republican and support the defence of those rights under our 2nd Amendment. America, because it cherishes individual freedom to the point of a bit of constant anarchy, will always have more violence than most other western democracies. We are the third largest country in the world; only China & India have more people, and we are tremendously diverse; racially, ethnically, culturally, religiously. Higher crime than in other developed countries is always going to be a fact of life in America, particularly in our cities. It's worth noting though that our violent crime rate has been falling steadily for decades now. The homicide rate was almost 3x worse when I graduated high school, than it is today and gun laws since then, have been getting more lax, not stricter.

I have heard that the 50s was the highest time for crime and teen pregnancy. From an outsiders perspective, America's trust and love of the constitution is unique. Here in Canada, we didn't have one until 1982. Also, the notwithstanding clause means any part of our constitution can be nullified except for the right to move around the country and the right to vote.
 
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And Pakistan is unable to fight one front war against India.

Of course we can.

We won territory from the Indian Army in 1948.
We held your numerical superior army at bay in 1965.

We lost in 1971 due to our army being cut off in 1971 but all great Armies have suffered such mishaps. British in Dunkirk and Singapore during World War II, French in Dien Bein Phu, Americans in Bataan, etc.

In 1999, we delivered another bloody nose to India at Kargil the likes of which India has yet to recover.
 
We can beat India alone, even the Indian Army itself already said "India cannot possibly match China, and the gap is growing larger every day".

We have the high ground on the Tibetan plateau, possibly the best defensive position imaginable.

And New Delhi is only 300 km from the border, we won't even need to leave our own side of the border to hit the Indian capital with conventional artillery, our rocket artillery for example has a range from 350-400 km. And we have the largest manufacturing base on Earth, and more currency reserves than the rest of the world combined, we can build infinite numbers of cheap rockets as long as we need to.

We can just sit on top of the Tibetan plateau and fire on New Delhi, and India has no chance of breaking through against a defending and vastly superior armed forces and vastly superior infrastructure and defence production capabilities.

The only question is whether or not Pakistan will take up our offer this time, to come in after we had already defeated India. Ayub Khan refused, and preferred to side with India back in the 1960's. But times have changed, I do not think they will give up such an opportunity, especially since we will be the ones doing the heavy work.

Anyway, Modi the mass murderer seems to be the perfect vehicle to see another Forward Policy, with his "new assertive posture" on both the borders.
We need to keep a close eye on Modi, he is not well defined yet.

Haha TTA not much thinking inthere.
This is not 1962 ,this 2014.You can talk easily about targeting our national capital.But consequences after that would be much graver than you or China cant anticipate.
Chinese already check mated when our new govt played with their diplomatic clout.
Your artillery would remain tibet.You cant defeat the terrain of Himalayas and only thing would applicable their is boots and airpower.

China cant defeat India that easy talks can spit against small SCS nations .But that tricks and numbers cant spent it here in India .
Your leaders know that.Your entire industries lifeline is flow
through Malacca Strait. Misadventure will surely payed off at any way.That is why CCP is much careful when dealing with India.



I had read it in internet.I will quote that source.Sure.
Just an example may be right or wrong.
What about Ilyas Kashmiri?He was in favour for AQ.
We have land access to the Indian ocean through Pakistan.Unless you take Pakistan kashmir back , you don't have land access to Afganistan for oil from Iran, means you are vulnerable on the high sea. I think China shall deploy several the most advanced 041 AIP sub in Karachi to keep India at bay.
 
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