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India is trying to delay Pakistan's Bhasha dam thru WB

Call to seek Indian NoC for Bhasha dam rejected

ISLAMABAD: The government is contemplating a plan-B to arrange funding for the $12 billion Diamer-Bhasha dam project through bilateral institutions after declining an Asian Development Bank suggestion that Pakistan should secure a no-objection certificate from India to seek multilateral funding for the project.

The decision in principle was taken at a meeting presided over by Minister for Water and Power Chaudhry Ahmad Mukhtar on Monday and attended by representatives of the ministries of finance, water and power, and economic affairs, Wapda and the Planning Commission, an official told Dawn.

Wapda was asked to submit a status report along with details of its plan-B by Wednesday so that it could be discussed with the finance minister and the deputy chairman of Planning Commission in a meeting slated for Friday to review the overall financing problems being faced by water sector projects.

Wapda Chairman Shakil Durrani told the meeting that ADB had been supportive of the dam project all along in doing the paper work in line with its safeguard guidelines and on at least three occasions had committed to providing up to $4 billion.

Of late, however, it had started to show reluctance and desired that Pakistan should get an NoC from India for the project because it was located in a disputed territory.

Mr Durrani told the meeting that the ADB’s request had been rejected.

“Why should we seek an Indian NoC now when all documentation for the project has been finalised in line with the ADB’s safeguard guidelines and we have even got the project approved from the Council of Common Interests to meet a demand of the Manila-based organisation. All settlement and environmental issues have also been taken care of in accordance with the ADB parameters,”
he said.

In Mr Durrani’s assessment, the lending agency is reluctant to commit its higher portfolio of such a size ($12 billion) while the World Bank is not committing anything.

According to sources, the United States had also discussed a lot of things and taken away data with an initial commitment to provide up to $1 billion in annual instalments of $200 million, but this had remained short of becoming a reality.

Dilating upon the plan-B, Mr Durrani said an option was to persuade the ADB to provide funding only for the civil works that would not relate to environmental and resettlement issues and meet the need for the remaining part of the project through local financing and other friendly sources.

The options included pledging some of the remaining water sector projects to raise Islamic and conventional bonds for the dam but most of these assets had already been pledged against international loans, an official said.

He said the Islamic Development Bank and China were ready to provide partial funding and support to the project but none of them was ready to fund the entire project.

The Economic Affairs Division told the meeting that a Middle Eastern group was also interested in the project because it offered more than 18 per cent rate of return on equity that meant 100 per cent recovery of investment in five years.

The minister said the government was determined to constructing the project and all options were being considered to complete it in the shortest possible time.

The meeting asked Wapda to furnish the report with all the options and commitments from donors.
 
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les get one thing clear here....India is not trying to delay the dam....we are doing things to stop the construction of the dam.....you cant build one on WB money in the land claimed by India.........there is no "delay" when there is no dam at all
Claimed by India, hahahah.
Typical indian attitude of claiming any thing and every thing that never belonged to them. But i know the reason for this non sense behaviour

"Cheen-o-Arab Hamara, sarra jahan hamara............... etc etc"
 
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So for claim part or disputed part, India is trapped in it's own game as some Indian want no more disputed territory and some are okay to call it as a disputed territtory.

As far Neelam project is concerned: It is much smaller in size and Pakistan will have an investment very soon insha-Allah :)

Bhasha Dam: I say treat it like an IPO and let Pakistanis invest in the project. We can do it on our own insha-Allah. Given the short time, it is not possible, we will have investment from ME groups this month insha-Allah.

These issues have highlighted the role of ANP and some officials and GoP must take action to fix ths problem. I am sure that PTI, next govt in waiting, will look into issuing IPOs for such projects. I am confident that overseas Pakistanis can actually raise significant amount of funds for such projects.
 
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If India is really trying to delay...then there will be a delay.....you can not do anything :D
 
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If India is really trying to delay...then there will be a delay.....you can not do anything :D
Dude, for making such senseless statements with this degree of confidence You got to be God

Sooner or later, Bhasha will be built, whether you like it or not. And you can't do any thing except cheap back stabbing tatics.
 
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The Point is simple, the whole Princely state is considered as Disputed. If you believer Kashmir is disputed then whole region is disputed and Nation's perception doesn't matter whether they include Gilgit-Baltistan as a state of Pakistan or make Pak-held-kashmir as "Aazad Kashmir".

Now if anyone of us try to do any development activity, it means claiming over the region. India and Pakistan both objected each other for same. Nothing new in it.
 
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The Point is simple, the whole Princely state is considered as Disputed.
Tauba karo dude Tauba, kindly don't dare to repeat such a thing before any indian. "Kashmir a disputed territory" UFFF.
By accepting kashmir a disputed territory you have just violated the indian constitution which regard Kashmir as the integral part (Atoot Aang) of India.


Now if anyone of us try to do any development activity, it means claiming over the region. India and Pakistan both objected each other for same. Nothing new in it.
No there is a fundamental difference between the objection raised by Pakistan and India on each other projects.

Unlike india, Pakistan objections on indian project in withheld Kashmir are purely on legal grounds and as per Indus Water treaty.
 
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Despite any opposition, perceived or real, Pakistan must go ahead with Bhasha dam. I believe Pakistan can do it. It has survived in a hostile environment and needs water storage facilities and power for its future.

If India can build dams in illegally occupied Kashmir, we should have no compunction in following through energy projects in Azad Kashmir.

So now our desi liberals must realize who our real enemy is. No Amn ki Asha or crap like that will work. We have to jealously guard our interest in the face of an enemy who is out to destroy and give us grief at every available opportunity.

Aman ki Asha will not work if you harbor ill will toward us. Onus is upon you guys to reduce trust deficit between our two countries
I have some practical suggestions.

hand over hafeez saeed and other perpetrators of 26/11.
Stop cross border infiltration into Kashmir.
Allow transit to Afghanistan and other central Asian countries.

Do all the above -- we will extend our olive branch too.
 
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I can understand your frustration...cowardice is when a nation sends insurgents rather than fighting themselves


True Is That Why You Are Sending Insurgents To Balochistan Nowadays
 
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Sorry buddy, they are your own people.

Yes They Are Our Own People.Being Misguided and Used By Your Agencies.Getting Back To The Main Point If You Consider GB To Be Disputed (Which It Is Not Because It Broke Away Long Before Hari Singh Signed Accession Treaty) Then You Should Accept That Whole Jammu and Kashmir Region is Disputed.Not Just AJK and GB
 
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Rock art and petroglyphs

There are more than 50,000 pieces of rock art (petroglyphs) and inscriptions all along the Karakoram Highway in Gilgit–Baltistan, concentrated at ten major sites between Hunza and Shatial. The carvings were left by various invaders, traders, and pilgrims who passed along the trade route, as well as by locals. The earliest date back to between 5000 and 1000 BCE, showing single animals, triangular men and hunting scenes in which the animals are larger than the hunters. These carvings were pecked into the rock with stone tools and are covered with a thick patina that proves their age. The ethnologist Karl Jettmar has pieced together the history of the area from various inscriptions and recorded his findings in Rock Carvings and Inscriptions in the Northern Areas of Pakistan[19] and the later released Between Gandhara and the Silk Roads - Rock Carvings Along the Karakoram Highway.[20] Many of these carvings and inscriptions will be inundated and/or destroyed when the planned Basha-Diamir dam is built and the Karakoram Highway is widened.

We should oppose Basha dam for above reason also.
 
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Rock art and petroglyphs

There are more than 50,000 pieces of rock art (petroglyphs) and inscriptions all along the Karakoram Highway in Gilgit–Baltistan, concentrated at ten major sites between Hunza and Shatial. The carvings were left by various invaders, traders, and pilgrims who passed along the trade route, as well as by locals. The earliest date back to between 5000 and 1000 BCE, showing single animals, triangular men and hunting scenes in which the animals are larger than the hunters. These carvings were pecked into the rock with stone tools and are covered with a thick patina that proves their age. The ethnologist Karl Jettmar has pieced together the history of the area from various inscriptions and recorded his findings in Rock Carvings and Inscriptions in the Northern Areas of Pakistan[19] and the later released Between Gandhara and the Silk Roads - Rock Carvings Along the Karakoram Highway.[20] Many of these carvings and inscriptions will be inundated and/or destroyed when the planned Basha-Diamir dam is built and the Karakoram Highway is widened.

We should oppose Basha dam for above reason also.


Then Dear You Should Also Oppose Kishanganga Dam Because of The Negative Environmental Impact and Destruction To Ancient Historical Sites


'Dam'ned: A culture faces extinction in J&K
 
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If India doesn't want the damn will not come up!!Thats it. . . :coffee:
 
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