India is selling their political narrative and propaganda through bolly movies

[Pakistansdefender]

Pakistani dramas are doing excellent job and getting million views on youtube and mostly Indian woman watch them so you cannot stop people watching quality content in this age of free social media. India and Pakistan might be enemy but most viewers of Coke studio are again Indians because it provide them free quality music..Pakistani drama have great storyline and acting and they are doing great even with limited budgets . They need to change the theme about drams and need to make dramas about Kahsmir/wars/army and others issues which PTV used to do in the past and movies can also do great earning without vulgarity and item songs ..look at Iranian film industry and they have not got big film industry as compare to Bollywood but still managed to win more awards than any Bollywood movies ever so quality matter most than quantity. We should provide people better alternative of bollwood otherwise there is no other way to reduce their influence . Our mullah who want woman to appear in full burka in movies and dramas need some rest

Oh Pakistani dramas are excellent. Tell me which one. My mother and sister watches all of them and while being in the same living room or eating with then with TV open in the background I am almost fimilar with all of them.
Every drama centers around weeping women, cruel bahus or cruel saas , acid throwing , rishta, shadi, dosri shadi and talalq and all these stupid matters . Some even like khana kyun nhn pakaya , larki kyun paida ki .
Old dramas about police, doctors , army and other topics are Missing .
Neither are we touching the historical themes, with people believing the India version on Muslim kings and Mughals.
Comedy is dead with moeen akhter and others like him .
Reailty TV is non existence.
In award show you give award to every actor. The new actors are so bad that they cannot even pronounce common words .
And you say its all rosy .
I used to be a fan of pakistani drama not anymore.
Unkahi, tanhain , dhoop kinary, abc those days are gone and yet those drama are still golden .

Cannot watch anything Indian as their accent and faces give cancer to eyes and ears . Only watch some special UK and us series . And some Turkish ones but they are soaps .

Pakistani dramas are doing excellent job and getting million views on youtube and mostly Indian woman watch them so you cannot stop people watching quality content in this age of free social media. India and Pakistan might be enemy but most viewers of Coke studio are again Indians because it provide them free quality music..Pakistani drama have great storyline and acting and they are doing great even with limited budgets . They need to change the theme about drams and need to make dramas about Kahsmir/wars/army and others issues which PTV used to do in the past and movies can also do great earning without vulgarity and item songs ..look at Iranian film industry and they have not got big film industry as compare to Bollywood but still managed to win more awards than any Bollywood movies ever so quality matter most than quantity. We should provide people better alternative of bollwood otherwise there is no other way to reduce their influence . Our mullah who want woman to appear in full burka in movies and dramas need some rest

What our mullahs need to understand that if we don't make films then youth would look towards Hollywood and Bollywood and that's is not right . Before it was vulgarity now it has been the war of narratives .

You can control whatever you want in the movies you make .
And that's doesn't me an everyone has to see them . Those who see would see and those who don't won't .
So for those who see we must provide our own option with our own cultural norms .
I remember my friend whose father was so strict that they don't have TV in their home.
He has not eaten one time outside his home though they are very rich and he himself willingly never wanted to go to cinema even though we all friends are going and even ready to pay his ticket because he thinks it's an evil thing .
Even he , the most extreme Conservative person I knew and his father who has full control over him and is more tyrant then any human I knew, even my that friend watches films and dramas secretly in his computer.
So you see everyone watches them.
And my cousins who were raised in saudiarabia and wear burkas and their father never ever seems to stop impressing upon the world that how religious their kids are and they are so religious that they don't even watch mera sultan . Lol. And he said he has locked all the channels on cable and they don't watch english films or shows. As if they don't trust their daughters.
But when you meet my cousins they watch every single Hollywood movie and listen every song . They have secret ipods and stuff and watch every single r rated or other movie hiding it from their parents . Who think their children don't even know what Hollywood is watch every movie on earth .
What you need to. Do. Is streamline it .
Make family. Movies and allow those who watch movies only those that we make.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Oh Pakistani dramas are excellent. Tell me which one. My mother and sister watches all of them and while being in the same living room or eating with then with TV open in the background I am almost fimilar with all of them.
Every drama centers around weeping women, cruel bahus or cruel saas , acid throwing , rishta, shadi, dosri shadi and talalq and all these stupid matters . Some even like khana kyun nhn pakaya , larki kyun paida ki .
Old dramas about police, doctors , army and other topics are Missing .
Neither are we touching the historical themes, with people believing the India version on Muslim kings and Mughals.
Comedy is dead with moeen akhter and others like him .
Reailty TV is non existence.
In award show you give award to every actor. The new actors are so bad that they cannot even pronounce common words .
And you say its all rosy .
I used to be a fan of pakistani drama not anymore.
Unkahi, tanhain , dhoop kinary, abc those days are gone and yet those drama are still golden .

Cannot watch anything Indian as their accent and faces give cancer to eyes and ears . Only watch some special UK and us series . And some Turkish ones but they are soaps .

Yes storyline is family oriented thats why I said that they need to touch others subjects as well and public will watch them if they bring quality script/ direction and realism ....watch drama dastan and Anghan which is about partition from Pakistani perspective...Watch Udhari touching sensitive social subject ..watch cheeks for crime drama series ..Drama alif/Sheh re zaat is about spirituality ..Do bol/Humsafar/Ranjha Ranjha kardi has romantic theme

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Yes storyline is family oriented thats why I said that they need to touch others subjects as well and public will watch them if they bring quality script/ direction and realism ....watch drama dastan and Anghan which is about partition from Pakistani perspective...Watch Udhari touching sensitive social subject ..watch cheeks for crime drama series ..Drama alif/Sheh re zaat is about spirituality ..Do bol/Humsafar/Ranjha Ranjha kardi has romantic theme

Family oriented ?
Tell me in which billionaire family men fight with women that why they don't cook their food and iron their clothes . Or why they work?
Drama dasstan was good that was because of the legendary story writer banu qudsia.
And they did great chus in direction but its overall good .
Angan was the floppest ever thing you could find . I said I would watch it but didn't . The hype was much yet it was not that great .
What ranjha ranjha and do bol what stupid dramas made again and again with a muzloom female again and saas and nand perspectives.
Now a days writers are like umera Ahmed and ferhqt ishteaq . They limit the role of women to only love a very successful man or to be very successful man . Though all of their heroines are highly educated but their education is only to serve their rishta hunting prospects and then their husbands not upto the fairy tale standards they imagined . And other family factors enters. Some one blame other, end in talaq and weeping women or that heroine saved from talaq with hero reformed. The end . Come one even real life is not that monotone .

 

[Dubious]

And majority of Pakistanis are idiots and fools, who are watching these kanjars. Our heroes are these kanjars, we admire them and we strive to become like these kanjars. Of course, Pakistan also has it's fair share of kanjars working in our film and drama industry, promoting soft image of Pakistan by showing their naked bodies. These kajars are all equal, whether they are from Pakistan or India.

Mehwish Hayat has now become the image of Pakistan and she will now represent Pakistan, how shameful and disgusting. How many of us are willing to see our sisters and daughters following her by choosing her profession? Yet, she is representing Pakistan, promoting the so called soft image of Pakistan. We as a nation are bunch of hypocrites, nothing else.

If Mods can suggest some other name which could fairly describe their profession then I will edit my post. We should call them what they are, instead of devising beautiful names for a dirty profession.

On Topic: Only she can answer propaganda of her brothers and sisters, working in a same profession but for a different country.

This happens when there is a vacuum in knowledge, skill and understanding!

I wonder who opposed the teaching of Islamiyat (not the todya's syllabus of praising "heroes") But details of Prophet's life, his doings, his sahaba and also the basics of Islam?

They rather feed of nachna and this crap rather than education? Rather than telling the people cleanliness is half of your faith? Where is your faith O Pakistanis when you have destroyed half by littering and then blaming govt/ others? Same people will behave overseas but litter in Pakistan like baap ka hai?!

Call yourselves Muslim when even the politicians cant read Bismillah or even a Al Fatiha properly? I stopped bothering or expecting this nation to EVER wake up! They prefer wasting time watching Jahila and rushing in that direction! Surah Asr comes to mind!

When education is a business while teacher who is to teach you next generation earns less than 10% that a dancer/ actor would...what do you expect to become of that nation? Sure other nations do so...bt they dont have the hadith of seeking knowledge (giving priority to knowledge) now do they?

Yes storyline is family oriented thats why I said that they need to touch others subjects as well and public will watch them if they bring quality script/ direction and realism ....watch drama dastan and Anghan which is about partition from Pakistani perspective...Watch Udhari touching sensitive social subject ..watch cheeks for crime drama series ..Drama alif/Sheh re zaat is about spirituality ..Do bol/Humsafar/Ranjha Ranjha kardi has romantic theme

yes, but how many of these have hit international markets?

How have our ambassadors (this includes everyone called Pakistani coz we are representative of our nation) worked to promote these good ones as compared to other countries and their ambassadors always doing for their own people and culture?

I mean in every bollywood, you will hear RAM (maybe actor's name/ ramayan / addressing gita) or something from Hinduism and even their dance from their pooja is used in their dances!

While actors in Pakistan are dying to do "item number"? Like WTH? Do we need to stooop any lower?

All Pakistan's new movies...no substance...just naked dancing! Literally! ALL copied from india to the item numbers! What is the difference between indian and Pakistani cinema? Give them 2-5 years they will go naked to show they can do more than indians!

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Family oriented ?
Tell me in which billionaire family men fight with women that why they don't cook their food and iron their clothes . Or why they work?
Drama dasstan was good that was because of the legendary story writer banu qudsia.
And they did great chus in direction but its overall good .
Angan was the floppest ever thing you could find . I said I would watch it but didn't . The hype was much yet it was not that great .
What ranjha ranjha and do bol what stupid dramas made again and again with a muzloom female again and saas and nand perspectives.
Now a days writers are like umera Ahmed and ferhqt ishteaq . They limit the role of women to only love a very successful man or to be very successful man . Though all of their heroines are highly educated but their education is only to serve their rishta hunting prospects and then their husbands not upto the fairy tale standards they imagined . And other family factors enters. Some one blame other, end in talaq and weeping women or that heroine saved from talaq with hero reformed. The end . Come one even real life is not that monotone .

You cannot please all sort of audience because everyone has different taste and prefer certain genre when it come to movies and drama and media should try to cater most of them ..its about supply and demand and they will make whatever sell well and whatever public like to watch..You might be in science fiction and war related stuffs but others may prefer emotional family drams whom they can relate with so its all vary form individual to individuals. You should come in media industry if you have some original creative ideas to bring something unique and new which will provide entertainment to people

This happens when there is a vacuum in knowledge, skill and understanding!

I wonder who opposed the teaching of Islamiyat (not the todya's syllabus of praising "heroes") But details of Prophet's life, his doings, his sahaba and also the basics of Islam?

They rather feed of nachna and this crap rather than education? Rather than telling the people cleanliness is half of your faith? Where is your faith O Pakistanis when you have destroyed half by littering and then blaming govt/ others? Same people will behave overseas but litter in Pakistan like baap ka hai?!

Call yourselves Muslim when even the politicians cant read Bismillah or even a Al Fatiha properly? I stopped bothering or expecting this nation to EVER wake up! They prefer wasting time watching Jahila and rushing in that direction! Surah Asr comes to mind!

When education is a business while teacher who is to teach you next generation earns less than 10% that a dancer/ actor would...what do you expect to become of that nation? Sure other nations do so...bt they dont have the hadith of seeking knowledge (giving priority to knowledge) now do they?


yes, but how many of these have hit international markets?

How have our ambassadors (this includes everyone called Pakistani coz we are representative of our nation) worked to promote these good ones as compared to other countries and their ambassadors always doing for their own people and culture?

I mean in every bollywood, you will hear RAM (maybe actor's name/ ramayan / addressing gita) or something from Hinduism and even their dance from their pooja is used in their dances!

While actors in Pakistan are dying to do "item number"? Like WTH? Do we need to stooop any lower?

All Pakistan's new movies...no substance...just naked dancing! Literally! ALL copied from india to the item numbers! What is the difference between indian and Pakistani cinema? Give them 2-5 years they will go naked to show they can do more than indians!

Yes we need to expand our market and it will not happen overnight and we will need some funding and patience to let industry flourish ..Our people should also embrace diversity in media . its funny most of our guys watch vulgar stuffs yet expect every Pakistani model and actress to have modest Islamic dress irrespective of her roles .we will solve most of our problems if we get rid of double standard and hypocrisy in our society

 

[Dubious]

its funny most of our guys watch vulgar

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

I will hardly find any guy out there who did not watch any such stuffs thats why these stupid vulgar stage shows and Pashtu movies mujra still surviving. I was looking at fans of qandeel Baloch and they were mostly Pakistani man an woman....first they were enjoying watching her stupid vulgar dialogue and dnace and then they were giving lecture to her about modesty after watching vulgar videos Woo dialuge tha kisi movies ka k jab sharafat k kaprey utarte hain tu sab se zyada maza shareef he lete hain

" when man walk alone on street then he stare at sister and daughter of others but when man walk on street with his wife or sister then he stare at those men who are starring at his women"

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Oh Pakistani dramas are excellent. Tell me which one. My mother and sister watches all of them and while being in the same living room or eating with then with TV open in the background I am almost fimilar with all of them.
Every drama centers around weeping women, cruel bahus or cruel saas , acid throwing , rishta, shadi, dosri shadi and talalq and all these stupid matters . Some even like khana kyun nhn pakaya , larki kyun paida ki .
Old dramas about police, doctors , army and other topics are Missing .
Neither are we touching the historical themes, with people believing the India version on Muslim kings and Mughals.
Comedy is dead with moeen akhter and others like him .
Reailty TV is non existence.
In award show you give award to every actor. The new actors are so bad that they cannot even pronounce common words .
And you say its all rosy .
I used to be a fan of pakistani drama not anymore.
Unkahi, tanhain , dhoop kinary, abc those days are gone and yet those drama are still golden .

Cannot watch anything Indian as their accent and faces give cancer to eyes and ears . Only watch some special UK and us series . And some Turkish ones but they are soaps .


What our mullahs need to understand that if we don't make films then youth would look towards Hollywood and Bollywood and that's is not right . Before it was vulgarity now it has been the war of narratives .

You can control whatever you want in the movies you make .
And that's doesn't me an everyone has to see them . Those who see would see and those who don't won't .
So for those who see we must provide our own option with our own cultural norms .
I remember my friend whose father was so strict that they don't have TV in their home.
He has not eaten one time outside his home though they are very rich and he himself willingly never wanted to go to cinema even though we all friends are going and even ready to pay his ticket because he thinks it's an evil thing .
Even he , the most extreme Conservative person I knew and his father who has full control over him and is more tyrant then any human I knew, even my that friend watches films and dramas secretly in his computer.
So you see everyone watches them.
And my cousins who were raised in saudiarabia and wear burkas and their father never ever seems to stop impressing upon the world that how religious their kids are and they are so religious that they don't even watch mera sultan . Lol. And he said he has locked all the channels on cable and they don't watch english films or shows. As if they don't trust their daughters.
But when you meet my cousins they watch every single Hollywood movie and listen every song . They have secret ipods and stuff and watch every single r rated or other movie hiding it from their parents . Who think their children don't even know what Hollywood is watch every movie on earth .
What you need to. Do. Is streamline it .
Make family. Movies and allow those who watch movies only those that we make.

I agree completely with your suggestion that national security trumps the never-ending debate over control of Immoral content.

 

[Mutakalim]

This happens when there is a vacuum in knowledge, skill and understanding!

That is the main problem. We are a crowd of illiterate and ignorant people, without any sense of direction or purpose. Majority of our people are striving to earn two meals of bread for their children. Remaining are busy filling up their pockets. We dont hesitate to steal, plunder or loot our own meager resources. Yet, we all consider our self to be perfect Muslim, a Sofi, who has done nothing wrong in his life. Then coming to our intelligentsia, which are few in numbers and dont have any real voice in the state policy. Some of them are influenced by western culture and others look toward Iran or Saudi Arabia for guidance. Only few know how to think without bias or prejudice and relying on their own mental capabilities. Nonetheless, these few people dont matter because either they are not sitting at the realm of power or they just want to live a peaceful and quite life.

I wonder who opposed the teaching of Islamiyat (not the todya's syllabus of praising "heroes") But details of Prophet's life, his doings, his sahaba and also the basics of Islam?

Our ignorant rulers and westernised bureaucracy. Firstly, their is no direction or policy directive from the top. Men sitting at the top are utterly ignorant and incompetent. As you pointed out, they cant even pronounce Surah e Ikhlaas correctly, stiil we are expecting that they will effectively run an Islamic state. In short, Islamic ruler should not be ignorant of basic Islamic principles, Islamic laws and it's jurisprudence. He should at least have the capability to read authoritative works of Jurist and make his own mind about legal questions. But, how are we going to produce men with such capabilities from this education system?

Call yourselves Muslim when even the politicians cant read Bismillah or even a Al Fatiha properly? I stopped bothering or expecting this nation to EVER wake up! They prefer wasting time watching Jahila and rushing in that direction! Surah Asr comes to mind!

I dont cast my vote because of this. These idiots are not capable enough to be elected as a mayor of a city let alone PM of an Islamic state. They dont meet the eligibility criteria of Head of an Islamic state. I dont want to cast my vote to an ignorant fool or a member of the mafia.

 

[Dubious]

That is the main problem. We are a crowd of illiterate and ignorant people, without any sense of direction or purpose. Majority of our people are striving to earn two meals of bread for their children. Remaining are busy filling up their pockets. We dont hesitate to steal, plunder or loot our own meager resources. Yet, we all consider our self to be perfect Muslim, a Sofi, who has done nothing wrong in his life. Then coming to our intelligentsia, which are few in numbers and dont have any real voice in the state policy. Some of them are influenced by western culture and others look toward Iran or Saudi Arabia for guidance. Only few know how to think without bias or prejudice and relying on their own mental capabilities. Nonetheless, these few people dont matter because either they are not sitting at the realm of power or they just want to live a peaceful and quite life.



Our ignorant rulers and westernised bureaucracy. Firstly, their is no direction or policy directive from the top. Men sitting at the top are utterly ignorant and incompetent. As you pointed out, they cant even pronounce Surah e Ikhlaas correctly, stiil we are expecting that they will effectively run an Islamic state. In short, Islamic ruler should not be ignorant of basic Islamic principles, Islamic laws and it's jurisprudence. He should at least have the capability to read authoritative works of Jurist and make his own mind about legal questions. But, how are we going to produce men with such capabilities from this education system?



I dont cast my vote because of this. These idiots are not capable enough to be elected as a mayor of a city let alone PM of an Islamic state. They dont meet the eligibility criteria of Head of an Islamic state. I dont want to cast my vote to an ignorant fool or a member of the mafia.

Who are you talking about?

 

[Mutakalim]

Who are you talking about?

Our political elite.

 

[B.K.N]

international audienc

Only those who can understand Urdu watch Bollywood films
Indians are already anti Pakistan and Pakistani are not going to become anti Pakistan by watching Indian films and Pakistanis are watching Indian films since 1947 PDF members kuch ziada hi sensitive Hain
ARY is making films and Mehwish is their employee that's why they are promoting her waisay bekar actress hai