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India is losing the race: NY Times

true the race never ends. of course the gap is widening. As china has a base 4 times larger than India.
Even USA with 1% growth adds more to its economy every year as compared to india.

appreciable comment @Chinese-Dragon.
 
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true the race never ends. of course the gap is widening. As china has a base 4 times larger than India.
Even USA with 1% growth adds more to its economy every year as compared to india.

appreciable comment @Chinese-Dragon.

Like I said, there are still many decades left before the big resource crunch.

There is still a lot of time left to turn the tables.

It will be a tight race around the middle of this century. No one can predict the outcome.
 
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What kind of report is this? While the writer very easily quote Dry Statistics, he forgot a very basic difference: DEMOCRACY.
I'll not get in details but ask any industry and first thing they tell you that biggest hurdle in expansion is Environmental clearance and Land acquisition. Obviously Chinese govt doesnot face these issues. Being in a democracy today people from village can very well peacefully demonstrate and get the industry to move away. Can the same happen in China? I doubt.

It is almost a no-brainer that what pegs the Indian growth is Governance (or rather the lack of it). But it is a no mean task hat India today is world's II fastest growing economy (a far cry from Hindu rate of growth).

I never get convinced by these talks of Super/Hyper/Bumper powers as a state of economy of a country is largely affected by its demographics and education system. There surely would be a time when India would start to grow at a rate faster than China, but that doesnot mean it can harbor thoughts of world domination. Bihar for example is growing at a rate faster tan most states but it will take time for it to catch with prosperous states like Delhi or Gujarat.

If someday a billion plus Indians get assured food, medical care and education and right to make livelihood, India would have achieved a crown that no title of Super power/ UN permanent member or anything else can give.
 
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in India there are different types of people, multiple religion, multiple languages, multiple cuisines, multiple way of living. Holding all that together is more than an achievement. There are more challenges in India. In India it is the human which is doing with only little support from Government. Where as in China government has a very strong control on its people.
 
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Can anybody Explain whats status of Pakistan Vs India and China ....Then it will Clear the hole thing..... :)

Can anybody Explain whats status of Pakistan Vs India and China ....Then it will Clear the hole thing..... :)
 
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The article is stupid. This was never a race to begin with. Anyone with half a brain would you tell that CHina is in a better position. Thanks to the help of Western Corporations. The only shining light is that now that the world has seen what the Chinese are up to, they are moving their investments towards nations that have favorable geopoliticals relations to their respective nations. While this wont affect all companies, it will affect the big players. Thanks China for exposing yourself too soon.

If you want to see India rise like no other and show Democracy can win, then BET ON TEAM MODI>
 
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By steven rattner :As recently as 2006, when I first visited India and China, the economic race was on, with heavy bets being placed on which one would win the developing world sweepstakes.

Many Westerners fervently hoped that a democratic country would triumph economically over an autocratic regime.

Now the contest is emphatically over. China has lunged into the 21st century, while India is still lurching toward it.

That’s evident not just in columns of dry statistics but in the rhythm and sensibility of each country. While China often seems to eradicate its past as it single-mindedly constructs its future, India nibbles more judiciously at its complex history.

Visits to crowded Indian urban centers unleash sensory assaults: colorful dress and lilting chatter provide a backdrop to every manner of commerce, from small shops to peddlers to beggars. That makes for engaging tourism, but not the fastest economic development. In contrast to China’s full-throated, monochromatic embrace of large-scale manufacturing, India more closely resembles a nation of shopkeepers.

To be sure, India has achieved enviable success in business services, like the glistening call centers in Bangalore and elsewhere. But in the global jousting for manufacturing jobs, India does not get its share.

Now, after years of rocketing growth, China’s gross domestic product per capita of $9,146 is more than twice India’s. And its economy grew by 7.7 percent in 2012, while India expanded at a (hardly shabby) 5.3 percent rate.
The New York Times

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China’s investment rate of 48 percent of G.D.P. — a key metric for development — also exceeded India’s. At 36 percent, India’s number is robust, particularly in comparison with Western countries. But the impact of that spending can be hard to discern; on a recent 12-day visit to India, not many rupees appeared to have been lavished on Mumbai’s glorious Victoria Terminus, also known as Chhatrapati Shivaji Terminus, since it was constructed in the 1880s. Parts of Mumbai’s recently built financial district — Bandra Kurla Complex — already look aged, perhaps because of cheap construction or poor maintenance or both. It’s hardly a serious competitor to Shanghai’s shiny Pudong.

China has 16 subway systems to India’s 5. As China builds a superhighway to Tibet, Indian drivers battle potholed roads that they share with every manner of vehicle and live animal. India’s electrical grid is still largely government controlled, which helped contribute to a disastrous blackout last summer that affected more than 600 million people.

Yet Morgan Stanley stands resolutely behind its 2010 prediction that India will be growing faster than China by the middle of this decade.

It isn’t going to happen, India’s better demographics notwithstanding.

For one thing, many of India’s youths are unskilled and work as peddlers or not at all. For another, despite all the reforms instituted by India since its move away from socialism in 1991, much more would have to change. Corruption, inefficiency, restrictive trade practices and labor laws have to be addressed.

Democratic it may be, but India’s ability to govern is compromised by suffocating bureaucracy, regular arm-wrestling with states over prerogatives like taxation and deeply embedded property rights that make implementing China-scale development projects impossible. Unable to modernize its horribly congested cities, India’s population has remained more rural than China’s, further depressing growth.

“China” and “corruption” may be almost synonymous to many, but India was ranked even worse in corruption in Transparency International’s annual Corruption Perceptions Index. At its best, the Indian justice system — a British legacy — grinds exceptionally slowly.

To be sure, summary executions don’t occur in India, and its legal system is more transparent and rule-based than China’s. But a recent visit coincided with the tragic gang rape of a young Indian woman that led to her death; the government’s ham-handed initial response was to ban protesters from assembling and impound vans with tinted windows like the one in which she was abducted.

India’s rigid social structure limits intergenerational economic mobility and fosters acceptance of vast wealth disparities. In Mumbai, where more than half the population lives in slums often devoid of electricity or running water, Mukesh Ambani spent a reported $1 billion to construct a 27-story home in a residential neighborhood.

Don’t get me wrong — I am hardly advocating totalitarian government. But we need to recognize that success for developing countries is about more than free elections.

While India may not have the same “eye on the prize” so evident in China, it should finish a respectable second in the developing world sweepstakes. It just won’t beat China.
A version of this article appeared in print on 01/20/2013, on page SR12 of the NewYork edition with the headline: India Is Losing The Race.

India Is Losing the Race - NYTimes.com

You have changed the title of this article. The original title is 'India Is Losing the Race' NOT Lost as you posted. PDF posting guidelines do not permit changes of title.
 
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New york times is a propoganda newspaper according to many Pakistanis and Chinese posters here.

@ India has definitely lost the race considering a shorter timeline of 2020.
 
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India is just 5 years behind China and fast catching up, No worries for India, American media should instead concentrate on their own economic problems rather than creating animosity between India and China.

:rofl: :rofl: love how you say " just 5 years behind " ...

do you work for the Indian media ?

15 yrs ago it was 5 yrs behind !! :)
 
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Well as far as economics is concerned, we should always compare our relative growth wrt China. This relative assessment tells us that we have to make many adjustments regarding our socioeconomic conditions to get boost in economic indicators.

Always compare with the best and try to reach them.

There are many thing sIndia is trying to emulate from China. Let me give few points.

1. India is investing heavily in Africa but is far behind China. So its good that we learned from them.

2. Indian govt. has made a new proposal to lure back Indian Scientists working in different countries back to India. China has been doing it successfully.

3. India is focusing more on technical education and trying to access new markets especially in ASEAN, Srilanka, Africa etc.

4. India has learned that Economy can be used as great diplomatic tool even for strategic benefits. We can see India emulating China in Afghanistan just like China did in Myanmar, Srilanka etc.
 
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Well as far as economics is concerned, we should always compare our relative growth wrt China. This relative assessment tells us that we have to make many adjustments regarding our socioeconomic conditions to get boost in economic indicators.

Always compare with the best and try to reach them.

ya hopefully it works out for y`all , we would love to increase our trade with India , currently we are depended on the Chinese , every time there a bad news from china , our dollar drops ( which isn't a bad thing) and stocks fall !!

We would love to open new trade routes but India is so slow and protective :)
 
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I dont think India thought of any race with China when they open the Market in 1991...

If you compare them... then there is no comparison between two......China is way ahead in all areas.
 
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