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India Invaded Pakistan In 1971: Know The Facts, And The Enemy

so relying on past experience of 1947 independence war and 1971 independence war.which one was for a better cause?uniteing muslims or dividing muslims in bd and pk what the heck is wrong with us we are 2 billion for God Sake we are the most wealthiest people or nation in the world.
first of all 1971 elections shouldnt have happened in the first place if u look at history it was UN who forcing us to democracy and the end result was bangladesh.i dont understand why are muslims of the world so criminally negligent about our own state.war on terror is war or islam.for us in pakistan we do care about begalis as they are our brothers before they were a part of our body in both cases we are same.and i feel really sorry for the victims of bd war 1971 but if you see today the sitution in pakistan we dont know who is doing these bomb blasts everyday.america says its taliban taliban says its america america say isi isi says india invovled what is this??????can you know who is doing what????no confusion and only confusion. the same what happened in bangla confusion and killing by others blamed on army as army wont leave a note with the body that army killed him india or mukti bhani killed him.we should grow up and realise that india is the culprit with the UNO and America of dividing us we should try to look at the bigger picture around us as there are quite a few things happening right under our nose.


You want to see Episode 2 of 1971 ????? look at libya war which is going on today just replace libya with name pakistan and rebels as mukhti bhani.as simple as that.wake up before its too late

@ Why you are bring UN or UNO here ? How UNO pressured Pakistan for the genral election of 1970 ?

@ Was it nessary for Yahya Khan to overthrow Ayub Khan and re-impose Martial Law in 1969. With my experience "Ultra Nationalistic feeling" is highly dangerious. It always brings ruin for a nation.
 
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@ mirage2000, why you are angry ? It is all history. As a new generation we have to dig out why Pakistan became failure on the debacle of East Pakistan. What was the role played by India, Pakistan Army, politicians of both the wings and also the silent expectators of both the wings. Was it only the out come of RAW or other factors ?

@ Why you are blamming the Bengali or Bangladeshi writer alone? Do you want to say that this Secret Affidavit of General Yahya Khan to the Lahore High Court was false ? Or fabricated ?
seriously in 2011 Pakistanis has no time for Analise what was who was why was . we just move on and today there is big challenges then we open old books .if Bangladeshis want to live in 1971 or even in 1857 we have no issue .keep it up.
 
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this is the partner of Bhutto in his designs for Muslims future and this was our leader before BD you cant find a single islamic of muslim leader showing his dignity and dignity of muslims when INDIA attacked in 1971 after degrading pakistani defenses through civil war.
 
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so relying on past experience of 1947 independence war and 1971 independence war.which one was for a better cause?uniteing muslims or dividing muslims in bd and pk what the heck is wrong with us we are 2 billion for God Sake we are the most wealthiest people or nation in the world.
first of all 1971 elections shouldnt have happened in the first place if u look at history it was UN who forcing us to democracy and the end result was bangladesh.i dont understand why are muslims of the world so criminally negligent about our own state.war on terror is war or islam.for us in pakistan we do care about begalis as they are our brothers before they were a part of our body in both cases we are same.and i feel really sorry for the victims of bd war 1971 but if you see today the sitution in pakistan we dont know who is doing these bomb blasts everyday.america says its taliban taliban says its america america say isi isi says india invovled what is this??????can you know who is doing what????no confusion and only confusion. the same what happened in bangla confusion and killing by others blamed on army as army wont leave a note with the body that army killed him india or mukti bhani killed him.we should grow up and realise that india is the culprit with the UNO and America of dividing us we should try to look at the bigger picture around us as there are quite a few things happening right under our nose.


You want to see Episode 2 of 1971 ????? look at libya war which is going on today just replace libya with name pakistan and rebels as mukhti bhani.as simple as that.wake up before its too late

I am sorry but I just can't disagree more on the pin points you mentioned. Regardless of the muslim brotherhood, the end result Bangladesh was pretty much inevitable. I can see you love conspiracies theories, but I bet people even in this forum does not have to go that far to know the real situation in 1971. You can blame RAW and India all you want, and there maybe little truth in that, but all one has to do is just ask any of our parents and they will tell us what really happened. For us, the 1971 war impacts is more than the 1948 war and no bangladeshi can ever deny this simple fact.
The muslim muslim brotherhood idea is nice, but look at middle east or any nation. Look what Saddam Hussein did to his own people. Look what Gaddafi did to this own people. And this are just cherry picked two of the many examples that lie today. And look at the rogue state like Israel:at least it does not kill its own people. Even your own country's govt remains silent while America regularly continues with its drone attacks.
Lastly, I support Pakistan over India any day of the week. But not because I still want to be a part of Pakistan but because we share similar cultural values, which makes closer towards Pakistan than it will towards India. But your idea of the muslim-muslim brotherhood is flawed and just does not work.
 
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@ Why you are bring UN or UNO here ? How UNO pressured Pakistan for the genral election of 1970 ?

@ Was it nessary for Yahya Khan to overthrow Ayub Khan and re-impose Martial Law in 1969. With my experience "Ultra Nationalistic feeling" is highly dangerious. It always brings ruin for a nation.

watch the video of UN assembly i posted for you
 
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I dont understand your point. 1971 is what brought Bangladesh to the world map. So its our history and will be analyzed until the end. If we ask you to move on from 1947, will you? Hell no, You will always want Jinnah's pakistan, Dont you?

and we are daily crying and taking votes by the name of Jinnah and 1947 ? or we got two old womens to make us fool on the name of 1947? or else we have a strong lobby here to take court dead persons by the name of 1947? or we bashing on Pakistani bunddhu jinnah or zia? dude grow up i think we try our best to finish it in recent years . but Bangladeshis are aggressive toward Pakistan much much .in recent history BD said and do too much bad . but Pakistanis are quit .
 
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Pakistan and Bangladesh should unite again. Pakistani people don't come to India due to not good relation and I want Bangladesh people to hate India so that they will also not come to India. It's my Wish :agree:
 
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we should grow up and realise that india is the culprit with the UNO and America of dividing us we should try to look at the bigger picture around us as there are quite a few things happening right under our nose.
Original Post By wmdisinfo


The political history of Pakistan from 1947 to 1970 witnessed no general elections. Thus, when Yahya's Regime decided to hold the first general elections on the basis of adult franchise at national level, they were not only required to make a new mechanism but were also required to set up a permanent election machinery. A three-member Election Commission was set up and Justice Abdus Sattar was appointed as the first Chief Election Commissioner of Pakistan.

The first task before the Election Commission was to enroll as voters all citizens of Pakistan who were at least 21-years old on October 1, 1969. The electoral rolls were put before the masses for corrections on January 16, 1970, and after necessary amendments, the final list was published on March 17. The total registered voters in the country were 56,941,500 out of which 31,211,220 were from the Eastern Wing, while 25,730,280 from the Western Wing. The Election Commission also marked the constituencies, in accordance with the seats allocated for the National and Provincial Assemblies under Legal Framework Order, 1970. One hundred and ninety nine Returning Officers were appointed for the National Assembly and 285 Returning Officers were appointed for the Provincial Assemblies.

Twenty four political parties participated in the elections. They were allowed to begin their election campaigns from January 1, 1970. The public meetings of Awami League in Bengal and Pakistan Peoples Party in the Punjab and Sindh attracted huge crowds. Awami League mobilized support on the basis of its Six-Points Program, which was the main attraction in the party's manifesto. While Z. A. Bhutto's personality, his socialistic ideas and his slogan of "Rotti, Kapra aur Makan", meaning food, clothing and shelter, were the factors that contributed to the popularity of Pakistan Peoples Party. The rightist parties raised the religious slogans, while the leftists raised slogans based on regional and communistic ideas.


More at:

General Elections 1970

This is a Pak website.

It does not speak of any coercion by the UN to hold elections.

Is it some grandmother's tale heard on the lap?
 
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Pakistan and Bangladesh should unite again. Pakistani people don't come to India due to not good relation and I want Bangladesh people to hate India so that they will also not come to India. It's my Wish :agree:

damn holy you want to kill millions for just visa policy and illegal migration lolz.
 
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This is a Pak website.

It does not speak of any coercion by the UN to hold elections.

read the book

dead ranking by Alastair Lawson

she show all sides of wars banglis that time was not poor victims also dear she stay BD and visit all around BD for collect the facts .its come on bbc urdu today.
 
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I am sorry but I just can't disagree more on the pin points you mentioned. Regardless of the muslim brotherhood, the end result Bangladesh was pretty much inevitable. I can see you love conspiracies theories, but I bet people even in this forum does not have to go that far to know the real situation in 1971. You can blame RAW and India all you want, and there maybe little truth in that, but all one has to do is just ask any of our parents and they will tell us what really happened. For us, the 1971 war impacts is more than the 1948 war and no bangladeshi can ever deny this simple fact.
The muslim muslim brotherhood idea is nice, but look at middle east or any nation. Look what Saddam Hussein did to his own people. Look what Gaddafi did to this own people. And this are just cherry picked two of the many examples that lie today. And look at the rogue state like Israel:at least it does not kill its own people. Even your own country's govt remains silent while America regularly continues with its drone attacks.
Lastly, I support Pakistan over India any day of the week. But not because I still want to be a part of Pakistan but because we share similar cultural values, which makes closer towards Pakistan than it will towards India. But your idea of the muslim-muslim brotherhood is flawed and just does not work.

i agree to disagree with you when bhutto was in power till he was hanged by america what he did for muslim ummah?????do you know OIC?hemade OIC He made OPEC and used oil as a weapon against US.No matter what Bhutto was not a bad person he was a gift we couldnt manage to handle.and about muslim brotherhood did you ever went to a library searched a book or the web for something called islamic empir or khilafah or chaliphate?which existed form the time of prophet Mohammad PBUH till 1921?did u ever heard of that?
 
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read the book

dead ranking by Alastair Lawson

she show all sides of wars banglis that time was not poor victims also dear she stay BD and visit all around BD for collect the facts .its come on bbc urdu today.

I googled.

NO mention.

And UN has never insisted on any country to hold elections.

If it did, then there would not be so many countries where dictators and sheiks rule in the UN.
 
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damn holy you want to kill millions for just visa policy and illegal migration lolz.

Who is talking about Killing ? why you always think of War ? There are more important things to do. I am saying Pakistan and Bangladesh should unite and Border should be sealed with 2 Layer Fence with 440 powerful Electricity like Jurassic Park. No one will cross border to India to increase slums in North-East. India should help BD to improve economy and not increase illegal immigration. Simple Logic.
 
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Nations operate based on interests. If we stand aloof and even help the other side in India's war on terror in Kashmir, we cannot expect India to shed blood to help us in Iraq. India looks out for itself just like we are looking out for ourselves. There's no altruism in the realm of inter-state relations.
Nixon's tilt towards Pakistan even as the latter killed about a million of its own citizens in East Pakistan would rank as one of the lowest points in the history of American diplomacy. And it was all unnecessary IMHO.

CAN YOU SEE THE CRIMINAL ROLE OF NON MUSLIMS ? US RUSSIA INDIA?
 
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oviet vetoes blamed by US for Pakistan's 1971 division
Dawn ^ | 28 February 2005 Monday | Dawn
Posted on Mon Feb 28 2005 09:36:19 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time) by CarrotAndStick

WASHINGTON, Feb 27: The United States believed that an overwhelming majority of UN members were against the division of Pakistan in 1971 but Russian vetoes prevented the world body from playing any role in the crisis.

This assessment is included in a set of classified documents the US State Department released this week to the media on US relations with the United Nations from 1969 to 1972.

Summing up the UN role during the 1971 crisis, the US permanent mission at the United Nations informs the State Department: "On Dec 7, the UN General Assembly, acting under the Uniting for Peace procedure, recommended by an overwhelming majority a cease fire and withdrawal of troops to their own territories and the creation of conditions for voluntary return of refugees." These were Bengali refugees who had fled to the Indian state of West Bengal after the 1971 military action in former East Pakistan.

As many as 104 member states voted for the resolution, 10, including India and the former Soviet Union, voted against it and 11 abstained. "The vote showed the strong sentiment in the United Nations against the use of military force to divide a member state," the US mission observes.

In a separate memo assessing the proceedings of the 26th General Assembly which dealt with the 1971 crisis, the US permanent mission writes: "The overwhelming majority (voted) for a resolution calling for a cease fire and withdrawal of troops in the Indo-Pakistan war (but) the Security Council was prevented from acting by Soviet vetoes."

Despite the world body's failure to enforce a cease fire, the US mission says that "in the India-Pakistan crisis, the General Assembly showed its utility. Early attempts by Secretary General U. Thant to persuade the permanent members of the Security Council to address the crisis over East Pakistan had foundered mainly on Soviet objections."

The memo points out that in December 1971, following the outbreak of hostilities, the US had brought the dispute before the Security Council but repeated Soviet vetoes blocked action.

"The Security Council belatedly adopted a resolution endorsing a cease fire and pointing toward withdrawal of troops, political accommodation, and humanitarian relief under UN auspices," says the internal memo.

In an earlier memo sent to the US permanent mission at the UN on Sept 3, 1971, the State Department predicts that the 26th UNGA could well be "a turbulent one" and the situation in Pakistan, "fraught with danger of conflict, could also lead to heated debates."

The memorandum suggests that the then US Secretary of State William Pierce Rogers "should give major emphasis to South Asia" in his address to the 26th General Assembly, underlining the dangers of war in the area, and especially focusing "attention on the humanitarian problem in India and East Pakistan".

"The secretary should underline the UN role of leadership in dealing with these problems and should provide vigorous support to the secretary-general's appeal for contributions and support from the world community," the memo says.

The memo urged Mr Rogers to include the following points in his speech: a) the threat to peace poses dangers not only to India and Pakistan but to the world community, b) the threat of famine in East Pakistan and the problem posed by the influx of refugees into India must also concern the international community, c) the international community, and India and Pakistan, have a responsibility for ensuring the peace, for averting famine and relieving human misery, d) we look to the UN to continue asserting vigorous leadership and coordination of efforts to deal with the food situation in East Pakistan and refugee relief in India.

We intend continuing our support for these efforts, e) we recognize that the political problems in Pakistan must be resolved by the Pakistanis themselves, f) we trust both India and Pakistan will avoid actions which can increase tensions and will also be alert to the opportunities for dealing with the refugee problem so as to reduce tensions.

Mr Rogers, who died at the age of 87 four years ago, delivered his speech on Oct 4, 1971, focusing on the points suggested by his aides. Another State Department memo, written after the speech, says that both Indian and Pakistani representatives (Agha Shahi) commented that the speech was clear and balanced.

"Naturally Indians would have preferred greater stress on political settlement in East Pakistan and Pakistanis less, but in general their reactions were decidedly favourable."

Thank you.

But where is it written that the UN forced Pakistan to hold the election of 1970?

"On Dec 7, the UN General Assembly, acting under the Uniting for Peace procedure, recommended by an overwhelming majority a cease fire and withdrawal of troops to their own territories and the creation of conditions for voluntary return of refugees." These were Bengali refugees who had fled to the Indian state of West Bengal after the 1971 military action in former East Pakistan.

As many as 104 member states voted for the resolution, 10, including India and the former Soviet Union, voted against it and 11 abstained. "The vote showed the strong sentiment in the United Nations against the use of military force to divide a member state," the US mission observes.

second point, on Dec 7 the UN knew that Bangladesh was to come into being?

It maybe remembered that the 1971 War started on 3 Dec.

IS Dawn suggesting that by 7 Dec, the Pakistani army was staring defeat in the face whereby Pakistan would be divided?

Am I to understand that Pakistan and the US felt that Pakistan Army in 04 days of war in East Pakistan would just roll over and play dead?

Come, come, that would be a real unfortunate an analysis of the Pakistani army.

The US and Dawn were Clairvoyant?

US and Dawn must have seen Dawn during Dusk the previous day.

So, it was a desperate attempt to salvage Pakistan and hide the truth?

And yet, you are so anti US when they went out of their way to save you and your reputation when by Dec 7, they realised that the Pakistan position in East Pakistan was untenable?

Note it is the US mission in the UN's observations!
 
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