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Comment: Is China the New Spy Superpower? « intelNews.org



Comment: Is China the New Spy Superpower?

DECEMBER 16, 2011 BY INTELNEWS 7 COMMENTS

US and China
By JOSEPH FITSANAKIS* | intelNews.org |
In fifteen years of monitoring intelligence-related developments, I have rarely seen so many news items about China appear simultaneously in the Western press, as I did during the past fortnight. On December 5, financial news network Bloomberg reported that the United States government invoked “Cold War-era national security powers” to compel telecommunications companies operating on American soil to disclose confidential data about their networks. The plan, spearheaded by the US Department of Commerce, but undoubtedly prompted and monitored by the National Security Agency, features a detailed survey distributed to dozens of telecommunications service providers, as well as hardware and software developers. The latter are reportedly required to supply “a detailed accounting” of every piece of “foreign-made hardware and software” installed on their networks, in a move that Bloomberg interprets as “a hunt for Chinese cyber-spying”. A few days later, intelligence researcher and author David Wise opined in The New York Times that the West had better recognize that China “has developed a world-class espionage service —one that rivals the CIA”. He qualified his statement by providing several examples of major espionage triumphs achieved by the Chinese intelligence services in the last decade, such as the acquisition of design blueprints for the US-built B-1 bomber and Northrop Grumman’s B-2 stealth bomber. Other examples given by Wise include China’s attainment of the design specifications for the US Navy’s Quiet Electric Drive system, aimed at enhancing the stealth abilities of submarines, as well as the remains of the modified Black Hawk helicopter that crashed in Abbottabad, Pakistan, during the CIA-led operation to assassinate al-Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden last May. Most of all, Wise laments the acquisition by the Chinese of the design specifications for the W-88 warhead, the symbol of America’s next-generation of mini-nuke weapons.
How is all this alleged espionage perpetrated? Undoubtedly, much of China’s purported intelligence collection comes from assets, actual human spies who are able to acquire the desired information directly from targeted organizations. But most media reports focus on China’s seemingly rising cyberespionage skills. A December 13 article in The Wall Street Journal quotes “senior US intelligence officials” who claim that US counterintelligence has detected “many of the Chinese groups responsible for cyberspying on the US”. Most of them, according to the paper’s sources, are directly linked to or sponsored by Chinese military agencies, most notably the People’s Liberation Army. The Journal adds that, at the end of last November, American officials actually met with Chinese government representatives and bluntly warned them “about the diplomatic consequences of economic spying”.
But do US officials have direct evidence of Chinese cyberespionage? A far more detailed analysis of the subject appeared on December 14 in The Sydney Morning Herald, Australia’s largest newspaper. According to the exposé, the US intelligence community has identified “at least 17 China-based spying operations”, including an “elite group” of alleged cyber spies, which American investigators have codenamed “Byzantine Foothold”. The report states that Byzantine Foothold displays remarkable originality in its choice of targets; the latter include iBahn, a company that provides Internet-based broadband services to hotel chain guests all over the world. The logic behind targeting a company such as iBahn may seem perplexing, until one realizes the enormous volume of economic-interest messages exchanged every day by travelers staying at hotels around the world. The paper quotes one “senior US intelligence official”, who claims that the iBahn hack allowed Byzantine Foothold to read “millions of confidential emails, even encrypted ones”, and that the group might have used iBahn’s network to launch attacks on countless corporate networks connected to it. The article concludes that “China has made industrial espionage an integral part of its economic policy”.
Commenting on The Sydney Morning Herald report, Dr Paul Monk, former China analyst with Australia’s Defence Intelligence Organisation, quotes US Representative Mike Rogers, Chairman of the House’s Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Rogers accuses the Chinese of “stealing everything that isn’t bolted down and it’s getting exponentially worse”. Writing for Australian daily The Age, Monk argues that Beijing’s rising intelligence prowess is not so much reflected in its ability to score successive intelligence victories against the West, but that it does so while managing to protect its spies in the process. The latter, says Monk, “remain mostly undetected”. What is more, because of its position as a major trading partner of most advanced nations, the China of today is far better positioned than the old Soviet Union to plant agents and moles abroad.
What is one to make of all this? Is China the undisputed new espionage superpower? To some extent, the intelligence prowess of nations advances or retreats in accordance with their political and economic standing. In this sense, China’s intelligence sector should be expected to mirror —and sometimes even lead— the country’s economic and political expansion. Moreover, as the Chinese state enriches its coffers by taxing the country’s rapidly developing economy, security and intelligence funding should be expected to increase accordingly. If nothing else, the very size of China’s intelligence apparatus, which is classified, but which should be expected to broadly correspond to a country of 1.3 billion people, makes it a formidable force on the world stage. Not only are there more Chinese spies, but, as Paul Monk mentioned in his editorial earlier this week, the extent of China’s access to the infrastructure of global capitalism —as typified by its colossal export sector— makes it easy for its spies to acquire premium intelligence on economic, sociopolitical, technical, academic, or defense matters. In comparison, the Soviet Union, which served as the West’s ideological nemesis for much of the 20th century, was economically isolated and marginalized, which in turn severely limited its international intelligence reach.
It may be argued that, ultimately, the question of whether China is the new spy superpower is irrelevant. What is of more significance is how China is perceived by its adversaries, because in the craft of intelligence perception tends to be far more actionable than reality itself. The frequency of media reports on —either real or imagined— Chinese spying operations could be taken to imply that Western intelligence services perceive China as the new giant of international espionage. If this is so, then China can indeed be said to be dominating the spy wars of the 21st century.
* Dr Joseph Fitsanakis coordinates the Security and Intelligence Studies program at King College, USA. He is Senior Editor of intelNews.
 
After PV Narsimha Rao every PM have suppressed/avoided RAW.

RAW have to given freehand with full money and permission as per the changing times.

USA is USA because of CIA if govt. realizes it the sooner the better. :angel:
 
the Fact tht there advances are being monitored and are being uncovered is the biggest dis on the Chinese Spy agency.

India and Indians need not be talking about our Intelligence agencies...and the fact is no one needs to know if our Agencies are good or bad .

More uncovering discoveries occurs , more is the negativity directed towards the perpetrating party....hence the spy agency has failed it top most priority in the first place...to remain covert.
 
the Fact tht there advances are being monitored and are being uncovered is the biggest dis on the Chinese Spy agency.

India and Indians need not be talking about our Intelligence agencies...and the fact is no one needs to know if our Agencies are good or bad .

More uncovering discoveries occurs , more is the negativity directed towards the perpetrating party....hence the spy agency has failed it top most priority in the first place...to remain covert.



No agency is covert 100%. it is ridiculous to suggest so....name one plz? Listen. The fact is that more Western agencies are devoting their time and resources to figuring out China.



Read up
http://intelnews.org/2012/01/09/01-904/
 
what ever it is, not a good topic to discuss no credible info about any thing just make the defense stronger that would be best.
 
the darkest days of raws were those when that idiot I.K Gujral chose to unilaterally withdraw all the Raw agents from pakistan. He like nehru was in his own trance state and far away from reality. He thought ISI will pay back in same coin which was a folly to expect.

With the coming of NCTC/NTRO etc intelligence gathering in domestic/foreign land may become more efficient.
 
Interestingly, it was actually an Indian engineer working in the USA who sold the B-2 stealth technology to China.

Noshir Gowadia gets 32 yrs for selling US secrets to China - Times Of India

If India had offered him even half that money ($50,000), then he might have given the tech to them instead.

it was russia later joined by china when the secrets leaked. he was the chief designer of b-2 propulsion system. old story.

and India needed not to offer him since russians and India have joint venture for producing 5th gen fighter. this is known as diplomacy...and legal way ..to acquire technology... lolllll...
 
it was russia later joined by china when the secrets leaked. he was the chief designer of b-2 propulsion system. old story.

and India needed not to offer him since russians and India have joint venture for producing 5th gen fighter. this is known as diplomacy...and legal way ..to acquire technology... lolllll...

LOL there is nothing more than cheap rupees that are ripped off from the tax payers and be split between the Swiss bank acoount holders and the Ruskies. What's so glorious about that? Pathetic!
 
LOL there is nothing more than cheap rupees that are ripped off from the tax payers and be split between the Swiss bank acoount holders and the Ruskies. What's so glorious about that? Pathetic!

r u a troll?
 
Interestingly, it was actually an Indian engineer working in the USA who sold the B-2 stealth technology to China.

Noshir Gowadia gets 32 yrs for selling US secrets to China - Times Of India

If India had offered him even half that money ($50,000), then he might have given the tech to them instead.

if he really did this then i am ashamed that he is related to india...i won't want him to do it for india either cause if this is secret of china's technology advances then it is great shame..better to go by slow pace like india than to cheat..
 
LOL there is nothing more than cheap rupees that are ripped off from the tax payers and be split between the Swiss bank acoount holders and the Ruskies. What's so glorious about that? Pathetic!

No sir, Please understand that someone who invents something has a right to sell it or not. Now please go through the following points to make it simpler for yourself:

>> I invested a lot of money and time on XYZ R&D and development
>> I invented XYZ and now I am using it for my use
>> I am using XYZ and I can either sell it or choose not to
>> I decide to sell the XYZ technology to some friends who can benefit out of it
>> Now some people want XYZ but do not wish to pay me
>> Another set of people want XYZ but I do not wish to sell them.

Hence, they steal the technology which is called reverse engineering and get cheap access, however there are some intangible costs attached to it such as reputation, no newness factor, knowledge advancement & long term collaboration.

Now, please let me know which one would you prefer?

regards,

Foo
 

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